This isn't a case where the creators have shitty views but the game is free from them, it's a case where the shitty views are so baked in that they're apparent as soon as the character creation screen.
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Diversity must not lead to conflict, according to CD Projekt Red studio head [PCGamer] (New Translation in Threadmarks)
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You think supporting an organization with a history of bigoted remarks and ideology is not trash?
Are you going to actually talk about the actual topic of the thread or just keep defending and stanning a company for no reason?
do you have any opinion about a CEO saying that "diversity must not lead to conflict"? or do you think this is nbd and reflects nothing material when it comes to the lives of their employees and creative output?
Theyre among my favorite developers and i remain really hyped for the game tbh. But i was initially going to buy this on GOG under the guise of all proceeds going directly towards them. Definitely not doing that in light of the blunders this company has been making. Ashamed to say i dont got the patience to wait for a humble bundle on it tho or to outright boycott it. All the power to those who do tho.
Unfortunately they don't care about you or many people on this forum. They want to make money and keep their shitty mentality. The game can be as bigoted as it could be and people still wouldn't give a shit if it's pretty and doesn't play like trash. It should be really clear at this point that CDPR really doesn't care too much.
Most people couldn't give a rat's ass about what cyberpunk actually means and are going to buy it because they either like how the cyberpunk aesthetic looks, they go "oh this is the game from that witcher studio" or word of mouth because a ton of people are going to play it because of the huge marketing and the fact it's CDPR. They never even had to do anything punk to get people in. Just the cyber and the marketing. I'm almost sure that the people buying this more for the punk than the cyber are going to leave very disappointed.
those who do not preorder the new CD Projekt Red video game named Cyberpunk 2077 are the real racists
I feel like this is an underappreciated reply. And I fully agree with it.
I was kind of interested for the story and setting despite the gameplay videos turning me off a little. This statement and the recent voiceover controversy however gives me no faith that CDPR has the capability of tackling cyberpunk themes beyond the "oh shit I got robot testicles" aspect , and I'll be damned if I'm sitting through 80+ hours of jank ass gameplay for that.
Bigotry does not deserve respect or tolerance. This isn't a two sided issue where people need to make concessions on each side, but a group of people who are being discriminated against and attacked by people that hate them for simply existing.
Why am I not surprised your previous message is a congratulation to Warhorse on KC:D sales...
Yeah let's continue to tolerate the intolerant, great thinking
The two things one should never tolerate are the intolerant that want you dead and the moderates that are okay with it.
That's literally the point he's making in the full interview, which nobody apparently read
Szacunek i tolerancja wpływają pozytywnie na innowacyjność
W środowisku, w którym możesz być sobą, łatwiej jest szczerze rozmawiać, dzielić się swoimi ideami, wyrażać opinie i to jest zaczyn masy ciekawych rzeczy – podk
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That's kinda how I read it too.
Bigotry signaling
They've failed the PR test over and over with this game
That's literally the point he's making in the full interview
Szacunek i tolerancja wpływają pozytywnie na innowacyjność
W środowisku, w którym możesz być sobą, łatwiej jest szczerze rozmawiać, dzielić się swoimi ideami, wyrażać opinie i to jest zaczyn masy ciekawych rzeczy – podk
would you say that the translation posted by CDPR is bad and doesn't represent what he said? finding that harder to believe than the opposite.
''It's just their marketing''
Welp, maybe this vision will not be carried into the game(I don't count on that tho), but it is something that is established within the company, unfortunately people will defend it anyway.
Welp, maybe this vision will not be carried into the game(I don't count on that tho), but it is something that is established within the company, unfortunately people will defend it anyway.
Again, the translation people are referencing is their official translationThat's literally the point he's making in the full interview, which nobody apparently read
Szacunek i tolerancja wpływają pozytywnie na innowacyjność
W środowisku, w którym możesz być sobą, łatwiej jest szczerze rozmawiać, dzielić się swoimi ideami, wyrażać opinie i to jest zaczyn masy ciekawych rzeczy – podk
We already know it will be. There's transphobia present as soon as you get to the character creator.
Oh, I remembered now, it's that tone of voice bullshit isn't it? Fuck them.
The way the interviewer start off makes me think they are proud of it. If Poland is so conservative as they say they're likely seeing it as a good thing that they aren't literally just closing the door unless you're likeminded like the rest. But they aren't welcoming if it affects the work, they try to be tolerant to all sides but if it ends with people having heated discussions instead of working they're putting a stop to it.
I spent a couple days in a small city of Poland (Wroclaw), and I witnessed a small concentration of people literally protesting against LGBTQI+ rights using pedophilia as their main argument. Like, HOW.
I mean... They are based in eastern europe. Considering how people tend to be over there regarding those subjects, it's not "too bad". At least they seem to be "trying" (and failing at, but still, trying).
They talk about it at least, it's more than most would do.
They talk about it at least, it's more than most would do.
That's literally the point he's making in the full interview, which nobody apparently read
Szacunek i tolerancja wpływają pozytywnie na innowacyjność
W środowisku, w którym możesz być sobą, łatwiej jest szczerze rozmawiać, dzielić się swoimi ideami, wyrażać opinie i to jest zaczyn masy ciekawych rzeczy – podk
"Talking about the importance of tolerance in the creative process, Badowski discusses how some at the studio believe in a definition of tolerance as "the capacity to respect other people's needs and opinions which we ourselves do not espouse, and to refrain from combating phenomena which we regard as evil. Others are more in line with Popper's proposition that a tolerant society, if it is to remain tolerant, must not tolerate intolerance. There are also people at our studio who disagree with both views."
He states that there are people in the studio who think that intolerance should not be tolerated, some who do, and a third group that (somehow) disagrees with both positions. It's not clear that his point about the ability to "talk honestly, share your ideas, express opinions" does not include intolerant ideas and opinions.
Of course ! But it's some sort of progress.
It's not as good as we'd want but honestly, i take any small positive things i can get.