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Disney's Encanto - Teaser Trailer
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It was nice for what it was, but we haven't had a decent villain who's existence wasn't a twist since... Wreck-It Ralph? Tangled? Considering how often Disney's villains are the best part of their movies, that's weak.
Give us a decent bad guy with a good song and a fun character, that's all I ask.
I'm not moving goalposts, that is still the style that they used since The Little Mermaid. Just because there are exceptions to the rule with certain movies doesn't mean they stopped using that style.
And Disney/Pixar has its own creative culture so you can't really use that studio as the comparison for what Disney Animation should aspire to become.
Eh. She was fine, but she was in no way a decent substitute for a classic Disney villain- I'd class her as an antagonist, not a villain.
At the risk of poking the hornet's nest, she was the film's Zuko, and no one considers Zuko the villain.
While not a singing/dancing villain, Ercole from Luca was very much a straight-up prick, and that was last month.
He was very welcome, yeah, but a villain in a Pixar movie is a very different prospect to one in a WDAS movie.
Look, I'll absolutely cop to being incredibly specific here, and I don't wish to try and split hairs, but what I'm looking for is a charismatic villain, preferably with a song, who commands your attention from the jump and is a prime mover in the plot, in the style of the great Disney villains of old. They largely gave up on that post-Tangled (to be more specific, they gave up on that when they rewrote Frozen so Elsa wasn't the villain any more), and I'd love to see that archetype come back.
It used to be that you could reliably depend on a Disney villain being the best part of their movie, and I'd love to see that be true again.
It would have ruined the themes of the movie if there had been a classic villain.
I hated the villain in Raya, she was such a gaslighter and I just didn't buy her redemption arc because she was so unlikable. It sucks because she's voiced by Gemma Chan and she's awesome.
I'd at least like to see traditional villains come back on occasion. Like, most of the plots we've had in WDAS films recently don't really need them, but I still miss them. Not every film needs an animal sidekick and not every film needs a villain but I'd like them to at least be in the equation whenever a story is getting broken. It's kind of bizarre because King Candy was fantastic and was the last truly traditional villain (didn't have a song and was a bit of a twist but the twist was that he was more evil than we realized, not that he was evil in general. He even had a Jafar/Maleficent style final form!). It's not like they dropped traditional villains because they had one that bombed. They ended it on a high note.
Should also highlight Moana is a monster for streaming because it's songs are fucking bangers with kids and the dub, at least in Spanish, is fantastic. My daughter can't get enough and all while the characters look more like my family color wise.
Fantastic film.
