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Disneyland Cancels Annual Passholder Program - New Types of Memberships Coming in the Future (DisneyWorld offering renewals only)
- Thread starter TradedHats
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I know some people who have built their entire identity around going to Disney and they are not going to be okay.
I saw something a day or so ago saying World may get rid of APs as well. I hope I can get grandfather'd in with mine.
There is a whole culture of going to Disney Land or World. Like if there is a new restaurant or hell, even a new cookie there is a group of people who will analyze the shit out of it. Don't ask me why I know.
I have a friend whose life revolves around Apple launches and seasonal Disneyland events. They're going to devastated.
And I wish I were joking.
I've met people who would go just about every chance they can, multiple times a month. There are Disneyland Clubs with members sporting the same jacket and buttons, patches. They would do meet ups, get some food, go on some rides, or even just walk around the park.
Custom made Mickey ears. Custom t shirts for different park-themed events. Disney themed wedding. Every ounce of savings goes into Disney experiences. The only social media updates they post take place from inside the park. They have a blog about "Disney Tips from an Annual Passholder Pro" and stuff. Everything in her life is about going to Disney.
Yeah this will be a big upset for that small group of youtubers who make their living filming around disneyland in 2 or 3 videos a week. Everyone else will find a way to get by.
Thats my thoughts as well.
Fuck, oh well, guess Disney just saved me $1600
Kinda felt this was going to happen and while I was able to take advantage of it the last time I was there (January 2020), I would never have gotten my AP were I not able to pay monthly as well applying my tickets towards the pass.
I have a cousin who moved from northern California to Florida to live out her dream so she can be near Disney world and to eventually work there. 🤷🏻‍♂️. She and her mom would go to Disneyland like once a month.
Nah it's not even only those type of people. I know a few who went all of the time and it felt like their life revolves around going. They loved it.
I used to be an AP member for years and it was worth it for the amount of times I went, but I'm interested to see what this decision will lead to.
Disneyland in particular has had a bad problem of just too many guests and not enough space.
Disney World is slowly getting to a saturation point too. Not counting COVID times, there hasn't been an "off" season time for locals to go to Disney World since Avatar land opened. I honestly expect Disney World to follow suit not eventually - probably by 2030, but not immediately.
I can even see a future where the only local "Annual Pass" for Disney World is for Epcot.
Disney World is slowly getting to a saturation point too. Not counting COVID times, there hasn't been an "off" season time for locals to go to Disney World since Avatar land opened. I honestly expect Disney World to follow suit not eventually - probably by 2030, but not immediately.
I can even see a future where the only local "Annual Pass" for Disney World is for Epcot.
I held one and it was nice to "just go" after a hard day at work, ride a couple of rides, sit and watch the crowds (and sometimes have a drink) and go home.
That being said, as a former DLR Cast Member I know a lot of people who are going to be happy with this. A good portion of the snootiest guests were APP holders.
A part of me is thinking that this is management trying to maximize the amount of money they will be receiving when they'll reopen, since the crowd size will be limited. And they always had an issue with dealing with crowd sizes due in large part to the APP.
That being said, as a former DLR Cast Member I know a lot of people who are going to be happy with this. A good portion of the snootiest guests were APP holders.
A part of me is thinking that this is management trying to maximize the amount of money they will be receiving when they'll reopen, since the crowd size will be limited. And they always had an issue with dealing with crowd sizes due in large part to the APP.
Disney World is much larger than Disneyland, so it makes sense that they'd keep the annual pass system in Florida where there's enough capacity to hold all the Disney zealots.
Disneyland on the other hand can't handle seven figures worth of people who would want to crowd the parks all at once, IN ADDITION to the regular guests, AND maintain some semblance of social distancing / reduced capacity. Something has to give.
Disneyland on the other hand can't handle seven figures worth of people who would want to crowd the parks all at once, IN ADDITION to the regular guests, AND maintain some semblance of social distancing / reduced capacity. Something has to give.
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Wife and I were AP members until the lockdown. Loved going once or twice a month just to eat, maybe ride a ride or so and buy some merch. We'll see what they replace it with, hopefully at a reasonable pricepoint because they kept raising AP prices for the past few years on the reg.
I will say there are some that take major advantage of it, usually feel they own the place and buy all the merch to resell online. Complete assholes TBH.
I will say there are some that take major advantage of it, usually feel they own the place and buy all the merch to resell online. Complete assholes TBH.
Disney World is renewing but only if you had annual pass before, and canceled existing Annual passes after March 15 due to Pandemic.
There's a catch though! You have to pay CASH ahead of time though.
Source- I called yesterday cause am gearing to go back to Disney.
There's a catch though! You have to pay CASH ahead of time though.
Source- I called yesterday cause am gearing to go back to Disney.
Likely. All the bloggers/vloggers going to the park daily are likely lost money for Disney in the sense that they could easily be upcharged and forced to pay more.
They've been wanting to get rid of the Disneyland AP program for years now. The COVID crisis is just giving them a good opportunity to do so. They've been steadily adding restrictions for years.
I'm not sure what this will mean for Florida but they don't have nearly the AP problem that they do in CA so maybe it will still exist? Doubt it though because it would cause a lot of "not fair!" responses when the truth is the two markets are very different.
I'm not sure what this will mean for Florida but they don't have nearly the AP problem that they do in CA so maybe it will still exist? Doubt it though because it would cause a lot of "not fair!" responses when the truth is the two markets are very different.
Magical Express going away has already played pretty poorly with the zealots I know I can't imagine what would happen if they got rid of Annual Passes.
I would bet that DVC owners, at least, would be pretty irritated and I'm not sure they want to upset that particular market, especially with them just opening a new resort.
This sucks for people who took advantage of it but is undoubtedly good for the park itself and its experience which has been struggling under the weight of soaring AP numbers for over a decade now.
seems like a slap in the face to their biggest fans. especially when they'll need people to return from covid...
all the disneyland groupies i know have annual passes and go often to support the parks restaurants/shops. disneyland was and still is a local theme park. its not the flordia resort even though disney has tried to make it into a multi-day resort.
the parks overcrowding from years past results from too many annual passes sold and local deals to get so cal residents in the door often. killing that seems short sided even if it requires limits in the future, though the writing has been on the wall for sometime. they see disneyland moving from a local experience to a premium experience, priced for higher incomes who can afford it.
it won't hurt the resellers. most of the smaller resellers just shop downtown disney. the cost for a one time park hopper pass for the big resellers or people who load up on in park exclusives isn't a high cost. disney knows they'll pay the entrance price and can still profit off of them.
this does hit bloggers/youtubers though who have built small followings from covering the park, including fans who cover the parks on social media (few of which make much money doing this, its more of a labor of love for the community). as for saying they don't benefit the park, they do market the park in the off season while covering everything thats new month to month. the foodie disney blogs got double screwed, it was already expensive to cover... i can't imagine with no annual pass it being feasible.
all the disneyland groupies i know have annual passes and go often to support the parks restaurants/shops. disneyland was and still is a local theme park. its not the flordia resort even though disney has tried to make it into a multi-day resort.
the parks overcrowding from years past results from too many annual passes sold and local deals to get so cal residents in the door often. killing that seems short sided even if it requires limits in the future, though the writing has been on the wall for sometime. they see disneyland moving from a local experience to a premium experience, priced for higher incomes who can afford it.
it won't hurt the resellers. most of the smaller resellers just shop downtown disney. the cost for a one time park hopper pass for the big resellers or people who load up on in park exclusives isn't a high cost. disney knows they'll pay the entrance price and can still profit off of them.
this does hit bloggers/youtubers though who have built small followings from covering the park, including fans who cover the parks on social media (few of which make much money doing this, its more of a labor of love for the community). as for saying they don't benefit the park, they do market the park in the off season while covering everything thats new month to month. the foodie disney blogs got double screwed, it was already expensive to cover... i can't imagine with no annual pass it being feasible.
Covid finally gave them an excuse to kill it. This will be so so so unpopular but will probably, hopefully, result in a better experience for non-local visitors and will solve so many problems for Disney. I just hope that some of the benefits trickle down to the rest of us and don't just benefit the company's bottom line
Rocco is eternal, when the world is destroyed by nuclear fire, he'll still be riding Space Mountain.
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I mean...it's in Flordia...sooo....
Them removing magical express pisses me off so much, I'm not even an annual pass holder. I go every few years and the magical express made flying to Disney world nearly stress free. You get to Orlando, you follow the express signs, get on the bus, your luggage arrives at your hotel, when you have to go home they give you a bus time, your luggage is picked up and arrives at your home airport. All for free. I hate traveling and finding transportation and all that BS.
Their rides are not for thrill seekers. I've been once, but never need to go back.
Disney is legit a lifestyle for some people that visit.
Disney World was worth it for me and I generally hate rollercoasters. I don't think my wife and I went on any rollercoasters there either.
We were on our honeymoon so it was mostly enjoying food, walking around, some rides and I wouldn't change it at all, had a ton of fun. And I am definitely not a giant Disney person either.
It's expensive though, so make sure there's enough for you to do that looks interesting.
Disney's more known for it's dark rides than for it's rollercoasters/splash rides.
I challenge you.because the universe is devoid of abject hope
How can it get better than Mickey standing in waffle fries?
Aren't they replacing it in a year or two with a train or something?
It's a strange choice, especially as they're going to need people to come in droves once it's safe. Disneyland runs on their APs way more than WDW and other parks. They make their money on APs tenfold in parking, merch, and food.
Interested to see what the alternatives are. I let mine expire right before Covid hit.
Interested to see what the alternatives are. I let mine expire right before Covid hit.
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There is someone in my life that I have to be with a lot, and this is one of the only things they'll watch. All Ears Molly is my own personal hell.
It's definitely worth going to if you've never been. While Disney does have some roller coasters and water rides, they're more well known for their slower moving, show-like, "Dark rides", top notch (traditionally) theming, and live entertainment.