I think people aren't shocked seeing their cow-towing for gay rep be barely visible in movies and the cartoons.
That's every corp.
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Disney to Still Fund ‘Don’t Say Gay’ Bill Backers, Will Support Gay Rights with ‘Inspiring Content’
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yeah i think it might have been a requirement under the state constitution but their basically disney employees
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A Mayor and three council members for a "city" with 10 residents, huh? 🤨
I would imagine Disney would have similar corporate principles as those of american defense or pharmaceutical corporations so no surprise here.
I'm not sure that's the best idea, but him speaking out could put added pressure on Chapek to either change or be removed.
I'm super interested in what could have gone on behind the scenes when Iger was choosing his successor and somehow Chapek got the nod instead of who everyone thought was a shoo-in (Kevin Mayer). Whatever his politics is, he couldn't have been any worse than Bob C.
To be honest, I feel like while I'm pissed at Chapek for this, I feel like most of my anger right now is going towards the republicans making the bill and passing it. Here I just feel like I'm not surprised and disappointed they're still funding.
I'm also not sure what else to add that's already been said. Which is how I was with Activision (which fuck them too). And that has higher thread numbers.
And I know there's no way Warners, Universal (especially when they have a theme park), Paramount, and the rest aren't quietly doing the same thing. This is a systemic issue.
I don't know what to say at this point. I just right now want to continue public pressure against these bills and try and vote these assholes out. That's where I feel like I can be more effective. If we want to give Disney the JK Rowling/Activision treatment, I'm fine with that. But I didn't see that when it came to Netflix and their business choices. So I think if everyone would prefer, the better way would be for me to raise awareness if you really want more public pressure is to put a reminder in any OTs (like I did in the death on the nile one with the many problematic actors) about what Disney supports and for people to not forget over the long term, if people are ok with that.
Eh I mean yea we're all kinda screwed because we live in a society that refuses to change from its past of just constant trauma and abuse caused by capitalism. So we do what we can when we can.
You don't have to abandon Disney but maybe just like curb your consumption?
Or you can still like Disney. I dunno just don't make it a slippery slope about well if we do this one corp and this corp well we gotta do all corps.
Yeah, I get what you're saying. Fair enough. I shouldn't have slippery sloped this.
While Feige has been pushing for diversity a lot, I don´t think he's in a position where he can just talk shit about the big boss.
Which makes Dana even more of a badass.
Man a shit ton of employees on my timeline are pissed the fuck off at this. Fucking executives always screw over their workforce.
I can't wait for Investor Day Call. Also there's a call for tomorrow.
I hope everyone roasts Chapek by the balls.
I don't think consumption as activism has ever been useful. It'd be better if people put time and energy into resources and movements that protect LGBT people instead of thinking not buying Disney things would help.
It would happen. Thing is Disney is a good manipulator. "People know about the bill? Where we paid MONEY to people who support it?" ... "Well let's just get another disenfranchised person in our empty ass movie." And then people forget. Disney ain't that bad they'll say.
Good thing is if Disney fails some company will buy em up. Would it be a better company?
Because that's what Disney does and they don't get better.
99.9% of Americans who consume Disney products don't even know this bill exists, that numbers gets even more inflated when you consider all the Disney consumers that exist outside of America. Every person on this forum could not ever give Disney a cent again and they wouldn't even notice.
This is what I mean when I say people's energy would be better devoted to supporting pro-LGBT movements than trying to bleed a massive multibillion dollar company dry.
Erm. It's not hard to do both. It's easier once you realize Disney only ever makes hollow ass films anymore. There are only 2 films I have any interest in from them this year and they are both from the one studio they bought they haven't completely ruined yet. And even while they are enjoyable they are really formulaic. So once you realize that it ain't so hard to avoid their junk. There is better art out there with very similar themes!
But while you're not wasting your hard earned money on Disney movies or more important wasting your time on one... Be out there supporting LGBT movements and events.
That would be the case only because it might be surprising. Everyone already knows Disney pays a ton to the GOP as the largest employer in a red state
I'm not. Disney is near untouchable on here. Some people will bitch and by Wednesday this thread will sink off the front page.
Amd yep if this was any other company people don't stan for this thread would be 20+ pages by now
I wish people would be honest that in certain cases they can happily give a pass to things as long as it's something they love.
This is why all the online posturing is tiresome how many people on here will honestly cancel their Disney+ membership or stop buying Disney merchandise?
Id say the only thing of Disney I pay for is plus and I don't even watch it (mostly for my family's benefit.) Probably time to turn if off till summer time after Turning Red.
It's so strange to me to measure the extent of anger at a corporation by the number of posts in an Era thread. People are plenty, loudly upset about this, and I don't know if counting it really gets us anywhere, especially when big angry threads usually amount to 90% 'fuck [this particular corporation]' drivebys and no actual discussion happens. Putting it on fandoms who would otherwise look the other way is...I dunno...in its own way fruitlessly performative?
If people want to avoid Disney that's fine as a personal choice of course, as long as we don't pretend it actually has an impact. And if you want to convince diehard fans to cancel their D+ subs, "their stuff sucks" is not exactly a compelling argument lol.
Fuck Chapek for this. Disney probably has the power to single handedly kill this bill but instead they insist on continuing to sponser the shitty Florida politicians who have committed themselves to making this world an unsafe place for anyone who isn't straight. Fuck all the way off.
And if you're wondering how the living Disney relatives feel about this, they're pissed.
And if you're wondering how the living Disney relatives feel about this, they're pissed.
I didn't say it sucked. I am saying it is lesser then a lot of art.
I like Taco Bell time to time too.
I mean you can keep pumping money into the company in which we know the bottom line does not care about LGBT.
Feige isn't gonna say shit, what the hell are you people on? The lead of Black Panther 2 is literally antivax. The MCU isn't exactly progressive.
I'm bisexual, you don't have to lecture me on this reality. I'm aware rich people don't care about us.
Look, same. I'm just saying people shouldn't be hardcore Disney fans especially when issues like this rise up.
Use them like they use you... as a transaction. Stop being fans of a company that is empty.
That's fair. I apologize if I came off aggro, I'm obviously upset by this and I just think we need to reframe the conversation a bit is all.
Ayy I get it if you're into Disney. Their films are entertaining at the least. I can also be a bit harsh when it comes to things like this since it's basically a film company. We all need to take our mind off things time to time.
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I'm not really into "Disney," per se, I mean I like a lot of things they own but that's by the nature of them being a multimedia conglomerate. It's more my thesis is just that I think it's a dead end to bang drums about individual responsibility to not pay for D+ subscriptions.
Also only semi-related but given that this is ultimately over land in Florida, it's a similar story to how Disneyland has screwed over Anaheim time and time again. It's never enough for these corporations, by design capitalism facilities infinite growth.
Honestly, the best way to stop this would probably be Disney employees going on strike.
Buy tickets to the parks, reserve it during pride day, but then no one go. Tickets don't go to waste / can be used later long as no days have been used. Park is reserved/maxed out, but no one shows up.
EZ loss for Disney
Unsurprising unfortunately.
Chapek is an absolute arsehole.
Unfortunately I don't see anyway the parks won't be an overpriced, money pinching, IP heavy, overcrowded mess in the future.
It has been slowly happening over the years, but all of those issues have gotten much worse under him.
Chapek is an absolute arsehole.
He has done a lot of irreparable damage in my opinion, especially to the theme parks.
Unfortunately I don't see anyway the parks won't be an overpriced, money pinching, IP heavy, overcrowded mess in the future.
It has been slowly happening over the years, but all of those issues have gotten much worse under him.
Chapek is repeating this same "inspiring inclusive content" spiel on their shareholder stream
Fuck off...
Fuck off...
Chapek hired a GOP operative to "reasses" Disney's political contributions
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Chapek finally slams "Don't Say Gay" bill
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Disney CEO Bob Chapek Finally Slams “Don’t Say Gay” Bill, Says Tried To Work “Behind The Scenes”; Will Donate $5M, Meet With Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis – Update
Walt Disney CEO Bob Chapek finally came out swinging against Florida’s so-called “Don’t Say Gay” bill.
deadline.com
(Definitely screams "too little too late" but I'm noting it here.)
The media juggernaut apparently has too much to lose. Very "white people buy shoes too" of them. It's pathetic.
I agree it's def saving face a bit, but $5 million to actual LGBT causes and actually fully coming out against is better late than never and i'll take it. Sometimes even pushing a company to do something like this is still progress and the $5 mil does help immenselyDisney CEO Bob Chapek Finally Slams “Don’t Say Gay” Bill, Says Tried To Work “Behind The Scenes”; Will Donate $5M, Meet With Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis – Update
Walt Disney CEO Bob Chapek finally came out swinging against Florida’s so-called “Don’t Say Gay” bill.
(Definitely screams "too little too late" but I'm noting it here.)