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Disney-Sony Standoff Ends Marvel Studios & Kevin Feige’s Involvement In ‘Spider-Man’
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Well Sony owns the movie rights. They allowed them (Disney) to use Tom Holland/Spider-Man in their MCU movies.
And Sony gave them 5% of their movies. Disney still has 100% of the merch. The 50/50 "offer" Disney put on the table is laughable.
Sony made 3 incredible movies and Spider-Verse is the best Spider-Man movie. Spider-Verse launched 9 months ago.
This is like, the cinematic universe equivalent of a protest vote or something
This is your periodic reminder that Sony LITERALLY just released the most critically acclaimed movie in the spider-man franchise and won an oscar for it without the involvement of the MCU.
Don't they own anything that originated from a Spider-Man book and is considered a Spider-Man character? And they already made a Miles movie.
The big change here is the dumb Chinese market. Rothman can make garbage movies, but unlike Star Wars who has failed to earn footing in China, Marvel (comics) properties have found buoyancy. Venom was basically floated by them, not the west. They seem more than happy to support drivel.
It's much closer to reality that the MCU stuff played a much greater role in making these well received and highly successful movies than Sony having new management.
Outright we can see the difference night and day with the quality of Venom.
Leaked emails showed that was what Marvel offered. Sony would get a cut of CW, IW and IW2 (when it was called that) in exchange for giving up the license. They would still get their cut of the solo movies too. Sony rejected the offer. That's why it's so clear to see what the end game for both parties are.
God, this completely sucks. I want believe that they'll work it out but I just don't see it happening.
You're wrong. It is ancient history (thankfully) but it was in place. And everything I described happened in the books too, we had a constant string of extinction events and storylines (HOM, Terrigenocide, Rosenberg Uncanny), creators diverted to other titles (Oliver Copiel, Russell Dauterman and Gerry Duggan I know of first hand, also a Claremont/Davis pitch shot down so Alan would do something else), a higher cancellation cutoff (looking at public sales analysis will show this even), reduced publishing commitments (literally if you can count you know this) and so on. If you want to go into greater detail on any of this I'm all for it.
I'll also take that bet on reading X-Books. And I'll win.
mmmmm....after Venom, Spiderman Into Spiderverse...and 3 different spiderman franchise since 2002 what do you think is the answer to your question?
LOL
Sony literally released the best super hero movie ever last year.
Wonderful, sure the next 3 sequels will re capture that lighting....
Also to be fair spiderman literally belongs to sony. It doesnt matter who love whom more, but spiderman belongs to sony. Lets say if you sell your lexus car to me, are you still gonna claim the lexus car i bought from yoy is still yours? Thats the closest analogy compared to that
If you are talking the live action movies be ready to be told it was all Marvel with Sony just providing the name.
Yeah exactly. Disney is being greedy as fuck. They don't need the money, they just need the character to make the universe feel complete.
Live action and animation ain't the same thing and they largely let Spiderverse people do their thing, they ain't going to be hands off with live action.
You're gonna see a hardcore live action milking of the franchise, you're gonna get a disastrous tonnally dissonant Holland x Hardy film.
You can't with a straight face point to Spiderverse as evidence that live action universe will be fine. Venom disproves that immediately and you can only make profitable bad movies for so long before you tank
Spiderverse is definitely the best Spiderman movie ever, however, making a live action Spiderman film in the MCU is still in Sony's best interest.
At this point, why the fuck would the general audience want to watch a Spiderman movie that's separate from ALL the rest of the Marvel characters' movies?
This is your periodic reminder that Sony managing that movie =/= Sony managing live action movies.
Exactly. His identity got revealed, and he was found dead in an alley
Hmmm it is not very spidey, he can get away in that kind of situation. I think he will just be on the run and his name will never be heard of in eternity
This is so fucking upsetting. Spider-Man was legitimately good again. Now we're going to go back to having one good movie followed by one or two shitty sequels. The trend with Sony movies is to always fuck up the sequels.
In my eyes, Sony did much better stuff with the character than Disney in many areas. Spectacular Spider-man (cartoon), Raimi's SM1 and 2 (live action), Spider-verse (animated movie). I don't see why it's "impossible" they get the character right again.
but I think most of the world wants to see Spiderman mingle with the rest of the MCU.
Because the last good live action movie they've produced was 15 years ago???
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