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Disney-Sony Standoff Ends Marvel Studios & Kevin Feige’s Involvement In ‘Spider-Man’
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Mmm, and a name change, right?
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That can work in-universe, but legally in our universe? :v
The key thing to remember is that the "fuck Sony" and "fuck Disney" sentiment is the entire reason why this story was leaked. If Disney leaked it, they likely believe people would be in an uproar and blame Sony (which is what is happening) and if Sony leaked it (which would be misreading of things) they expected a strong "fuck Disney" war cry.
I feel like this is Disney starting to leverage all that they have to force Sony into a deal. And it is absolutely the right play for them, because they do have leverage to use.
I feel like this is Disney starting to leverage all that they have to force Sony into a deal. And it is absolutely the right play for them, because they do have leverage to use.
Disney are chiefly responsible for the success of the Spider-Man movies though. They want their dollar for future ones.
50/50 split on a franchise that Sony has the rights to and which Sony is financing, marketing, and distributing. Meanwhile Disney gets full merchandising rights as well as a producers fee.
Yeah, greedy.
Disney already pushed Sony out of Spiderman merchandise money,
they should just give up 50% of the only remaining element they paid for?
That's not an "attempt to negotiate", that's an insult. If someone comes to me and demands 50% of my business or he leaves, I would tell him to fuck off.
Sony did Spider-Verse and got an Oscar without an ounce of Disney's help. I'm curious to see how this goes.
" Unless something dramatic happens, Feige won't be the lead creative producer of those pictures. "
Are we forgetting that Sony made the best Spiderman movie only one year ago? Into the Spider-verse destroys any MCU movie imo.
kinda, some of y'all fanboys make these threads hard to read without cringing haha
Depending on the value to the negotiating parties, you actually do. Every offer starts with bullshit, and whittles down to something they can agree on.
The unfortunate reality of the film industry is that one billion dollar franchise won't keep the boat afloat forever. Believe me, there's going to be one hell of a blowback from audiences once this news spreads even further. Vernon was already skating on some thin ice and only succeeded off of star power alone, without proper handling of the Spider-Man IP, Sony's future really does not look too bright. I'm not saying that they're going to sink like a stone within the next year or two, I'm just saying that 10 years from now, they won't have a single leg to stand on when their film portfolio has all but dried up and they've run their most valuable IP's into the ground.
Oh shit, please no. Didn't think of potential implications for the game. Hopefully it won't be affectedInsomniac:
That could be a good outcome of this but I doubt that would happen. They kind of seem stretched thin already
Can't have Lord & Miller work on every project now can we?
Imagine saying this barely weeks after a Thanos movie became the highest earner ever.
Are you people even reading the article!? Tell me you are trolling please.
As far as the movies go, current Spidey is more reliant on being in the MCU than the opposite by a lot, I think the BO appeal will tank if they make a sequel ignoring that fact, so I don't know if a reboot would be better than ignoring past MCU Spidey movies but I think it would
Sony just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about comic-book movie culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is with the DCEU where you can become successful by being an edgy asshole. If you screw someone over part of the MCU, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the MCU fans, after hearing about this, are not going to want to purchase Spider-Man tickets or Venom either, nor will they purchase any tickets to Spider-verse sequels. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Sony has alienated an entire market with this move.
Sony, publicly apologize and give Disney 50% for future Spidey films or you can kiss your business goodbye.
Lmao it was too good. Two great Spiderman movies in a row was just too much. The curse had to come back.
They will be busy with working on Into Spider verse sequels, spin-offs and cartoons.
You only counter if you actually need the deal. Sony does not. Sony isn't some upstart on Shark Tank who will give away 50% of their profit for 100k. To say otherwise is incredibly naive.
i'm not a Sony shareholder, i just want great MCU live action Spider-Man movies
Welp, but I guess the 50/50 is a bit crazy. Too bad they couldn't come up with something, and MCU Spidey is going to get screwed. :/
Disney didn't have any say on Spiderverse, right? And I liked that way more than any of the MCU films.
But I'm still having flashbacks to Amazing Spider Man 2 right now. So I don't know what to feel.
But I'm still having flashbacks to Amazing Spider Man 2 right now. So I don't know what to feel.
I know because Sony is still doing the shit the did when making ASM. Silver & Black? A Kraven movie? Come ON. They're also planning to make a million tie ins to Spiderverse, and we were shown with the other franchise Lord and Miller were involved with, the Lego Movie, the first movie being great doesn't mean that the follow up will be a sure success.
They can do moderately well and make all the money *at first*, but them squandering the good will HC and FFH built up and devaluing the brand long term is what's far more likely. THAT is what's stupid about all this. It's a "squandering long term success for short term gain" type situation.
Reminder that the Deadline article says nothing about either upcoming Tom Holland Spider-Man film not being a part of the MCU.
It just says Feige isn't producing, but they'll still be using the creative framework he set up. To not be a part of the MCU would require eschewing so much about Peter's characterization in this incarnation that they couldn't continue.
The spin-doctoring I've been seeing is maddening and blowing things way out of proportion lol.
It just says Feige isn't producing, but they'll still be using the creative framework he set up. To not be a part of the MCU would require eschewing so much about Peter's characterization in this incarnation that they couldn't continue.
The spin-doctoring I've been seeing is maddening and blowing things way out of proportion lol.
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