This fucking suck :( I guess in my head canon spiderman was killed by mysterio and that why he doesn't appear anymore.
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Disney-Sony Standoff Ends Marvel Studios & Kevin Feige’s Involvement In ‘Spider-Man’
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LOL, Happy is never gonna get to be with Aunt May
That's a reasonable response.
That's a reasonable response.
Possibly. But none of that shit is static, especially from that long ago. Sony could be looking at the prospect of fixing their internal production efforts as more appealing financially then turning over 50% of their biggest movie IP.
Say what you will about Sony being stupid to ditch Marvel, but at the end of the day those high priced Sony executives had to justify to their bosses why their highest grossing film was produced by someone outside the company and not them.
Do I think it's a good idea? No, but then again Sony don't want to get into a situation where everything they have bombs and Fiege is making them look bad by making hit films while under the employ of someone else.
Frankly I think Fiege was foolish to make Spider-Man such an integral part of the MCU knowing full well that he didn't have full control of the character and he and Rothman had tangled in the past when they were doing X-Men 3 (????) at Fox.
Also, I toldja.
Do I think it's a good idea? No, but then again Sony don't want to get into a situation where everything they have bombs and Fiege is making them look bad by making hit films while under the employ of someone else.
Frankly I think Fiege was foolish to make Spider-Man such an integral part of the MCU knowing full well that he didn't have full control of the character and he and Rothman had tangled in the past when they were doing X-Men 3 (????) at Fox.
Also, I toldja.
Do you think Disney didn't profit tremendously from having Spidey in the avengers films? The Iron Spider outfit probably sold tons of toys.
I get what you're saying, as if they don't have a narrative control over the character in his solo films, it'll be hard to easily incorporate him into the Avengers films. Still, Disney is definitely gaining something from it, and it just sucks that he won't be in it.
lol I love how people think it's all Sony's fault. It's both theirs and Disney's. Ya'll act like Sony is the villain in this situation. Disney got greedy.
Not sure how Sony are being idiots here.
Sony made Amazing Spider Man 2 which is a shitty movie, and they made 700 mill. That's them alone.
Then FFH made 1 billion which if we assume is the same for the next movie would mean that Disney would get half of that billion which results in Sony getting much less money (unlike Disney who would get much more money when you factor in the merch money) compared to ASM (which is a shitty movie). If anything they are the smart for telling Disney to fuck off.
Sony made Amazing Spider Man 2 which is a shitty movie, and they made 700 mill. That's them alone.
Then FFH made 1 billion which if we assume is the same for the next movie would mean that Disney would get half of that billion which results in Sony getting much less money (unlike Disney who would get much more money when you factor in the merch money) compared to ASM (which is a shitty movie). If anything they are the smart for telling Disney to fuck off.
This relationship has been unbalanced since the beginning and Sony isn't a plucky underdog. They've mismanaged this franchise and took what is basically an exaggerated opening negotiation as an excuse to sever all ties rather than negotiate down. But yeah, it all comes down to plucky little Sony, whose ties to this character are more like Harmony Gold's continued stranglehold on Robotech than a small creator vs a larger one, being exploited by mean old Disney. Nevermind that they're both two of the biggest entertainment companies in the world.
They aren't going to keep up the quality of the Marvel Studios movies. An accidental masterpiece like Spiderverse means nothing when the guy that's responsible for sewing Deadpool's mouth shut is in charge of their film division. They may do technically well for a movie or two but this is only going to end in diminishing returns because Sony only understands this character as a marketing arm to franchise.
Sony didn't bother to counter-offer when a gigantic part of the success is due to Feige's team's creative involvement and the MCU connection.
They absolutely knew, but you have to take the chance in negotiations in case the party just accepts anyways. 10-25% is likely where Disney was aiming, but you obviously don't start there in negotiations.
The other thing is that Disney likely feels like they have a lot of leverage (and they do) while they feel that Sony has none and are now doing this to put pressure on Sony to cave.
You doing a joke, but Khamala is one of several younger characters that they will most likely push to the forefront to fillin the spidey void
Thank you! People are running in here to shit all over Sony Pictures and didn't even read the fucking article stating that Disney is literally the reason why Sony is breaking off the deal. You Marvel stans are something else good grief.
Supposedly they hired a guy from fox who was working on X-Men 🤦🏿♂️
Sony Pictures just signed their death warrant as a studio. They have literally nothing other than Venom and once they take creative control of Spider-Man over again, it is going straight into the sewer. I'm fucking crestfallen.
Honestly, if the next film is rumored to be Kraven or some other standalone villain, it wouldn't matter if it's connected to the MCU.
Actually, I would prefer if the next villain is a standalone one for a tighter cinematic experience.
She'd better be as OP in the MCU as she is in MUA3.
She's nuts in that game.
It is meaningless to argue that Marvel owns Spider-Man because Stan Lee and Ditko created him. Marvel sold the rights. When something is sold, it doesn't matter what the moral argument is, it was sold. It's meaningless to discuss or even argue that.
Maybe. Or maybe they start making good Spider-Man movies, or middling movies like Venom that make good box office that they don't have to split half of with someone else.
The idea that a company is stupid because they just didn't turn around give half of their business away because that's what MCU fans would want is laughable.
Homecoming and Far From Home were two of the best Spiderman movies to date. Damn shame.
Sony is greedy. Sony fucked up.
Sony is greedy. Sony fucked up.
Ok Sony time to start that liveaction Spiderverse starting with
Spiderman 4
followed by "The Amazing SpiderGwen"
Spiderman 4
followed by "The Amazing SpiderGwen"
Disney flew too close to the sun. You can have Spidey or X-Men, not both.
Live action Spiderverse seems like the best way forward. I'm ready for Holland to team up with Maguire, Garfield, and an animated Miles to take on Venom (only for Agent Aunt May to save them in the end).
Live action Spiderverse seems like the best way forward. I'm ready for Holland to team up with Maguire, Garfield, and an animated Miles to take on Venom (only for Agent Aunt May to save them in the end).
eh homecoming was mediocre in my view. Far from home is very good tho. Spiderverse is better than anything MCU has put out as far as I'm concerned. TAnd from what I read, most of the previous talent from FFH is still gonna be there for the next movie? So not sure what the concern is about. ime will tell who is right but my money is on the next couple of movies being just fine.
No, he essentially had glorified cameos in two of the three films.
I don't care. Sony is the one making shitty movies, and they're the only thing standing between Marvel/Disney making good Spider-Man movies, so fuck 'em.
Yikes.
"I want 50% of your business!!!"
"Why didn't you make a counter-offer?"
Are you guys for real?
You cut off my post. Disingenuous of you.
I was saying that all they had to do was sit back and let Marvel do all the work and make a fortune. For the investment they made to Far From Home, taking in $500M is far better than going it alone. Sure Venom made some money, but not all of that was profit.
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