I'm not saying I care. Your replies to the other guy were just weird and ignoring the context.
Yes. People never ever jump over locked gates or walk right past signs that says "no entrance". Especially not at Disney.
And seeing how the first frame of the video shows a closed gate at the bottom of those steps...
I don't believe that for a second knowing how strict the cast members are.
Just saved my dude a lifetime of shame of having to say "I proposed to your mom at disney on TikTok"
he just wanted to save her from a guy that proposes at disney.
good lad.
It's fair enough if they shouldn't have proposed up there, if they do it everyone might start doing it, but snatching someone's shit out of their hand let alone a probably expensive engagement ring? Lost me there. Dude's a prick for doing it.
Why assume the guy is lying? People aren't robots and can make mistakes. The cast member in question also could've thought it was fine due to being a proposal and it being done quickly.
Man, I feel like some of you act as if he scaled the side of the castle and hung a giant banner that said "will you marry me?" He stood on a slightly elevated platform.
It didn't need this reaction from the cast member on camera.
I've been to Disneyland Paris recently and my take on this is that the CM's outfit is only worn during the parade/show that uses those stages, so presumably the performers were on their way. And that stage is loaded up with a fuck ton of wired-up pyro shortly before the show, and they have had issues with that pyro in the past, and you bet your ass that if any of that went off and injured a guest who clambered up on stage it'd be his fault, too.
Probably shouldn't have grabbed the ring off them, but I'd put "get trespassing visitors away from wired-up pyrotechnics" pretty high up on the list of urgent things to do if it was my job, so I can't fault him doing it really.
I'll chime in:
They claim that they got the ok/go ahead. If this was a special request -- usually... Uuusuualllyy for a special requests it bubbles up and a manager will usually be present to deal and crowd control. Photopass usually (not always) gets involved per the request of the party.
If it's a normal typical request. At minimum a photographer will be present. There's no need for a manager to be present for a normal regular location.
There are locations that are strictly off access for patrons of the park. The stage is surrounded by railing.
So there are a few scenarios at play.
They asked. Were declined to use the stage.
They went in anyway.
Hence his very aggressive dealing with the situation.
They asked but beat around the bush and didnt explicitly say where they wanted to propose. Were told yeah. Of course you can propose in park. Used that as an opportunity to go in to that space.
They asked some random worker and were given false info.
They decided to just go and do it.
Or, they asked, and just straight up miscommunication and assumed they were good.
It easy to point the finger and say how dare he. But he could be penalized for not acting. Do I agree with how he dealt with that situation? No. But no matter how he dealt with the situation, the moment will be killed no matter if he did it in the most polite shooing or snatching the ring as he did.
Not justifying his actions, but the amount of times they have to tell people they can't do x and y, and the vitriol they deal with or the utter disregard some patrons give to workers. I can understand his heavy handed tactics.
That said. He probably got reprimanded for grabbing the ring out of their hands.
Yeah I agree pretty much. I'm not a big fan of people making proposals all like "hey everyone look at us" but don't touch people's stuff.It's fair enough if they shouldn't have proposed up there, if they do it everyone might start doing it, but snatching someone's shit out of their hand let alone a probably expensive engagement ring? Lost me there. Dude's a prick for doing it.
I would've decked that guy if he grabbed the ring out of my hand like that.
Sometimes situations need teaching moments.Don't see the point if you know where they work and are they are also on camera.
I see you Goofy
Random Reddit poster:
"One Redditor alleged that he knows an employee who works for Disney, who told him that company employees are "explicitly told that we never touch a guest without their clear permission, given either verbally or through body language. We're not allowed to take their property under any circumstances and doing so results in termination.
"We're also trained to do anything we can to keep our guests happy and continue to sell the image of 'most magical place on Earth,'" the employee allegedly told the Redditor. "This employee will be terminated pretty swiftly should this video make it to the right people. All he had to do was wait 10 seconds. Get it out there and he's a goner."
Disney also apologized.
"We regret how this was handled," the Disney spokesperson added. "We have apologized to the couple involved and offered to make it right."
Employee probably fucked himself for no reason.
Agreed. The guy could have waited 30 seconds let them do their thing then politely ask them to leave the restricted area.It's fair enough if they shouldn't have proposed up there, if they do it everyone might start doing it, but snatching someone's shit out of their hand let alone a probably expensive engagement ring? Lost me there. Dude's a prick for doing it.
As someone who worked for Disney, snatching the ring is a totally fireable offence imo. In no way whatsoever do you touch a guest unprompted especially when it's a confrontational enviroment.
All your other points stand and all this guy needed to do was approach them and tell them it's a secure area and ask them to leave. His management would have said he would have done all that was asked of him for that. Taking someones possesions out of their hands can be considered assault and battery which Disney would not want even if it wasn't viral.
It was on ships which has all the same rules as parks and resorts but yea you are absolutely right they can be super inconsistent(not just with discipline lol) but usually when it involves guests it's a firm hand. This is Paris though and they have a different management overseeing them so who knows. I know people who have been blacklisted from parks and resorts but can still be hired in Paris for example.Ayyy where did you work?
It can totally be a termination he's looking at, I agree. I've found disney to be very inconsistent in how they deal with terminations or discipline.
I saw a proposal earlier this year near that same spot during fireworks & the couple was NOT happy that I was recording it.
The cast member looks like a snitch bitch to me. The type of person that would tell the manager if you took an extra 5 minutes during your break or would listen into a conversation you're having about someone else.
The bottom line is that common human decency dictates that, unless someone is in danger, a proposal is something that you do NOT interrupt.
Even if they managed to get to this restricted area, if you can't get them off before the knee goes down, you take the L and wait the fifteen seconds for them to finish. Kick them out of the park at that point, nobody would care, but you don't interrupt a proposal. Especially in such a physical way.
Some strong internet tough guy going on in this thread. What a happy bunch some of ya'll are.Holy shit. Yes the guy shouldn't have taken the ring, but some of these takes about how the CM was a bitch/or he is an hourly employee so his job doesn't matter are just horrendous.
I really don't know about this one. The guy's just trying to do his job. How do we know they really had permission to be up there? There has to be more to this. There always is.
Mmh, decency has nothing to do with rules/laws :sIt's common human decency to not break the rules because you believe the rules don't apply to you. The guy took his job to far by grabbing the ring, but he was 100% in the right in trying to remove them.
The amount of entitlement being shown is insane.
It's common human decency to not break the rules because you believe the rules don't apply to you. The guy took his job to far by grabbing the ring, but he was 100% in the right in trying to remove them.
The amount of entitlement being shown is insane.
No he wasn't lol. What fucking corporate training video shows you how to tackle a ring like it's about to shoot your mama before the cursed proposal takes place.
This wasn't his job at all.
Perhaps he had to ruin the scene to avoid a snapshot doing the rounds in the Internet and Management using it against him? Maybe he was reprimanded for a similar incident? We know very little.No he wasn't lol. What fucking corporate training video shows you how to tackle a ring like it's about to shoot your mama before the cursed proposal takes place.
This wasn't his job at all.
Yeah, both parties fucked up.
Getting to a place that's off limits for a proposal? Be ready for any consequences, including having the proposal be interrupted. You're not special.
The couple had asked permission with another employee beforehand. They were not special; they were allowed.