I mean it's sill roleplaying if I play myself as a cop, right?
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Disco Elysium (Dialogue Focused CRPG) Releasing on October 15th + New Trailer
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In a way spreading yourself equally in all skills is probably the most wildcard type build you can play, because you presumably won't be rolling anything consistently.
That just makes the successes so much sweeter though.
Nobody cares when the fighter rolls a 20 and chops some goblin in half, but when the wizard rolls a 20 and slaps one dead with their spellbook, everyone goes crazy.
Your skills won't always be at 3 though is the thing. I think players are going to be failing a lot at the beginning regardless of initial build until they get some levels, equipment, and thoughts under their belts.
I'm going to try and stick to 2 rules while playing: No savescumming and putting role-playing above metagaming/min-maxing.
Thats what I intend to do as well. Not sure I'll be able to succeed keeping myself from save scumming tho even tho I know its bad lol.
Pathologic 2 has been teaching me to deal with consequences without save scumming.
Each day has a set time limit and set number of goals. You can't finish them all unless you're speed running and knowing what to do next.
I'm learning to let go and just roll with it.
Each day has a set time limit and set number of goals. You can't finish them all unless you're speed running and knowing what to do next.
I'm learning to let go and just roll with it.
Can you die? What happened then, just game over?
If so, I'll load my latest save file, I'm not gonna replay from the beginning.
If so, I'll load my latest save file, I'm not gonna replay from the beginning.
Yeah, you can.
CohnCarnage, actually got 2 Game Overs in his stream of the game. One from HP loss, one from Morale loss.
Granted his build had only 1HP/1Morale.
Not that I'm advocating it, but save scumming in this game yields far more interesting results than save scumming in Hitman. So that's a poor argument.
Well yeah, same here. That's not what savescumming means.
I imagine death is pretty rare in this game though.
I hope this game is realistic, wherein no matter what cop you roleplay as, he ends up a bastard.
I am trying to section off my potential playthroughs and so I'm going to leave any "meta" or supernatural stats to a second go. Same for drug tolerance, etc. I figure if I got through once with stone cold logic, it might be more fun to have a playthrough based on insanity and seeing things that aren't there.
I heard that (Early game spoilers)
You can die in the first scene, when you go to retrieve your tie which is hanging from the ceiling fan it's a skill check and you can fail this. Granted I just read this, it could've been wrong
Also no idea what particular skills I'll decide to focus on in the end, but I can definitely say they're going to be on the Intellect-Psyche axis for the first run. There's just so much good stuff there - Inland Empire, Suggestion, Esprit De Corps, Drama, Rhetoric.
On a first run I probably won't be roleplaying that much per se, I'll just pick the skills, dialogue choices etc. I feel like picking at the time. Sort of a malleable, blank slate "in for a good time" playthrough. In the future playthroughs I'll do more obvious roleplay characters.
I love how fucking delusionally bombastic the wooden house and flamethrower one is. Great to see that even some of the slightly less interesting skills like Half Light are going to be yielding a ton of entertaining dialogue and interactions.
On a first run I probably won't be roleplaying that much per se, I'll just pick the skills, dialogue choices etc. I feel like picking at the time. Sort of a malleable, blank slate "in for a good time" playthrough. In the future playthroughs I'll do more obvious roleplay characters.
I love how fucking delusionally bombastic the wooden house and flamethrower one is. Great to see that even some of the slightly less interesting skills like Half Light are going to be yielding a ton of entertaining dialogue and interactions.
Eeeh, yeah not angry joe. He isn't at all likely to provide insightful criticism of this specific game and definitely not about the themes it tackles. I'd personally look into someone like Austin Walker, if he's going to cover the game in any form. Hope he does, I followed his take on Mafia 3 which had US race relations in big focus.
I don't personally share the worry at the moment which some have expressed, but I acknowledge that exploring deep and difficult themes can be really tricky. So I understand why people might be concerned. Though the devs being Estonian/white shouldn't increase anyone's concern, they're not less capable of tackling any of these themes by default than any other nationality/skin color.
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Shodan14, --R thanks for pointing me to the video.
I apologise for not responding earlier, I got home pretty late and went straight to bed. Thanks for the thoughtful response and thanks for alleviating some of my concerns, I am however still going to take a wait and see approach.
Besides the strange wording and framing in the interview, I find the actual character portrayal worrisome and it might come across as nitpicky, but hear me out. As I understand it, the game isn't exactly brimming with POC characters in the first place, so the choice of portraying one of the POC characters as a supremacist that regurgitates rhetoric that is in reality commonly associated with white supremacists and incels seems like an odd choice. I really hope that the game will be more reflective of how racism actually manifests itself in reality. Even if it's a minor segment of the game, even such a relatively minor interaction, can potentially sour me on the entire game. It depends on how it is all handled. I am looking forward to the impressions and reviews. I would love to Austin Walker's thoughts on the game.
That is hilarious, I wonder if this is an attempt at self-deprecating humour.
I apologise for not responding earlier, I got home pretty late and went straight to bed. Thanks for the thoughtful response and thanks for alleviating some of my concerns, I am however still going to take a wait and see approach.
Besides the strange wording and framing in the interview, I find the actual character portrayal worrisome and it might come across as nitpicky, but hear me out. As I understand it, the game isn't exactly brimming with POC characters in the first place, so the choice of portraying one of the POC characters as a supremacist that regurgitates rhetoric that is in reality commonly associated with white supremacists and incels seems like an odd choice. I really hope that the game will be more reflective of how racism actually manifests itself in reality. Even if it's a minor segment of the game, even such a relatively minor interaction, can potentially sour me on the entire game. It depends on how it is all handled. I am looking forward to the impressions and reviews. I would love to Austin Walker's thoughts on the game.
That is hilarious, I wonder if this is an attempt at self-deprecating humour.
i can't imagine he/most popular youtubeys will even play it, it's coming out at a time where it's fighting for space in the gaming collective's attention span and it's a highly niche version of a relatively niche genre. also it's bat-crap kooky!
i hope austin talks about it, klepek as well. i think it'll lead to me finding a whole host of insightful critics i've not heard of before, which is exciting.
oh and regards to skills, one of my favourites that surprised me in my very short hands-on was authority. coming in i'd expect that skill to show up ala any other rpg, intimidaton checks during dialogue. no no, this guy wants you to pick up bowling balls and through them as hard as you can to prove some kind of point to some senior citizens.
Because we should just shut up about sensitive topics & critiquing their handling if/when there are issues with it, so that manbabies can enjoy their vidya geimus without a single deeper thought.
I have no idea what build I'm going to start with. I normally go for high intellect characters but I wonder if I should mix things up and play as a high physique type, just cannonballing through the plot like I'm Kazuma Kiryu.
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I want to go totally lopsided in my run. Maximize one skill, leave everything else to 0.
It's also going to be easier to pick only one skill instead of two.
........ the consequences, however, will be... unpredictable.
It's also going to be easier to pick only one skill instead of two.
........ the consequences, however, will be... unpredictable.
I'm going headfirst as the speed freak inversion of Doc Sportello. "what does that even mean?", you ask. I have absolutely no idea, but I'm pretty sure this game's gonna tell me.
To really get into the Revachol spirit, imagine hating your life, but also knowing that it's all ok, because the world will end in 28 years anyway.
They really should put it on the Steam page as well.
Yeah, this thing was announced in 2016, right? I went back through my GOTY posts and realized Truce/Disco has been my #1 most anticipated since.
Must be pretty sweet to be discovering the game right now only to have it being released in mere days, lol. I've had that happen a few times and it's always been awesome to get in on the ground floor.
Yeah, they started their TIGSource devlog in January 2016
Game was looking impressive even then
For the longest time, I could not figure out why despite the utter uniqueness of the art style, it felt vaguely somewhat familiar. Turns out, I finally figured out that The War of Mine is that other game that utilizes a somewhat similar aesthetic in its 2D centric design.
More_Badass Is there a video from which that gif was made?
More_Badass Is there a video from which that gif was made?
crazy how similar those proof of concepts are to the finished product. i guess the systems being created prior, in their role playing sessions, and the world being solidified in the novel, helped a lot.Yeah, they started their TIGSource devlog in January 2016
Game was looking impressive even then
No, it was just the GIF. They had included it in the devlog post to show off the lighting
Ah, gotcha. Thanks. It is interesting to see how lighting is done for pre-rendered 2D assets. Obsidian are ace in this regards with Deadfire.
This was a cool post from the devlog, showing how they would translate concept art to in-game environments
Hi! My name is Kaspar and I'm working on No Truce With The Furies as a concept artist. In this short post I'm going to tell you a bit about what goes into a background. I'll do that by elaborating on one of the screenshots from our recent press release (Read it here), namely the moody one with the bad-ass car and the rain and the big building.
I worked on that – the Perikarnassian church. It is one of the landmarks in the game and even before I began our AD Aleksander had made this early mood concept (that's the image above).
The environment started changing during production. First, the area is newly sketched out (like here) and a rough 3D block-in of the landscape and buildings etc gets done in Blender. At this point I look at lots of references, sketch some and discuss my ideas with the writers and the AD. Eventually I end up with this:
Based on this sketch I do some variations before going into more detail and minute variations, below, along with the original idea and the rough block-in for comparison.
As you can see by the green tick – at first we went with that one. We had to press on and before I could give it to Mikk for modeling I drew up a slightly more detailed image. In this phase I tried out some colors that would fit the mood of the place. Meanwhile I got to work on the church interior. As this is something you won't be seeing today I'll fast forward a bit
When you compare the model to the concept you'll see that it has gone through some changes again. The isometric perspective can be a harsh mistress. From some angles you lose detail and other angles butcher the silhouette. In Blender I went back in and made both smaller and larger modifications to the model. There, now we could basically put it in the game! It just needs materials.
Here's the render of the church where I've applied base textures and tweaked the model some more – note the angle of the roof, the tower didn't really work visually before and I attached a balcony/boardwalk to its side among other details. Now the render's composites (the various maps our custom shaders use) went back to Rostov, who gave it a paintover.
Et Voila! Ain't a thing. Thanks for tuning in.
Also I wonder if this is still in the game
That's the kind of personality-defining roleplay that is much too rare in RPGs
More_Badass Thanks for posting that. I googled and found the link: https://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=52246.0
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