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Disabling the Epic Games Launcher lowers 5800X idle temps from 50C to 37C
- Thread starter Morten88
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Yeah wow, this really turns me off of buying games on EGS. The only game I ever bought was an Ubisoft game, and that's because I know they add to the Ubi client so you can launch them without EGS. I'll probably stick to that.
The % depends on the cpu model I would guess, aside from the constant cpu usage while idle I don't see anything else weird with process explorer
This is the highest I caught id idling on a ryzen 9. The rest of the time it sits at around 0.7% cpu. Not sure how people are reaching 10% consistently.
Task manager ordered by CPU usage right now on my 5800X.
Notice how Steam is barely registering.
I'm not gonna infect my PC with EGS just to show what everyone has proved already, you can see how much CPU EGS uses in other users's posts. The CPU usage of EGS while it supposedly does absolutely nothing is NOT normal.
Notice how Steam is barely registering.
I'm not gonna infect my PC with EGS just to show what everyone has proved already, you can see how much CPU EGS uses in other users's posts. The CPU usage of EGS while it supposedly does absolutely nothing is NOT normal.
Funny because I actually have an issue with Warzone where if I have discord open and am playing I'll get significantly worse performance. Closing discord without any other changes results in completely removing the drops.
If true, this sounds like a bug to me where the app gets into a bad resource grab loop.
For my part, EGS doesn't have any issues on my PC.
For my part, EGS doesn't have any issues on my PC.
Not really when you have a Ryzen 9. You have significantly more headroom, 8 more threads than the processor mentioned in the topic title.
I can hear my fan constantly spinning any time I have the Epic Store launched. I have to close it just to quiet my PC, makes me not wanna use it at all.
Maybe I take the L for purchasing Tony Hawk Remake full price on EGS and delete it for good. The launcher is a joke and takes way too much resources. Also couldn't believe I cant play THPS offline on EGS. Claimed almost 30 games by now, but not installed any of them.
I don't think this is the case since it currenly idles at ~50C +/- 10 with or without the launcher running. If EGS was the resource hog the redditor says it is, I'd have seen some noticeable impact.
I've found that waiting a year for games to get a proper release on Steam is super easy. I mean, just look at Control. I got it fully patched, with DLSS 2.0, with all expansions, for like 20 and something euros. On a vastly superior platform. Like bruh, it's just a year, of course I'll wait. I always wait for sales anyways. For Shenmue 3 I asked for a refund of my KS pledge of 50 and something euros, which didn't even include the DLCs, then bought the game + DLC on Steam for 22€... I also got to take money directly from Epic, since they funded the refunds. win-win lol
I'm patiently waiting for THPS1+2 too.
Yeah, this is me. Though I did install GOG Galaxy to play Cyberpunk and linked my EGS account there so now I can see all those games in GOG galaxy, though I haven't checked if I could download/play them from there or if it'll just try to open up EGS on its own.
Definitely love the free/subsidized games from Epic but they got a whole lot of work to do on their launcher if I'm going to use it.
This is the highest I caught id idling on a ryzen 9. The rest of the time it sits at around 0.7% cpu. Not sure how people are reaching 10% consistently.
Similar to what I see on my 8700k. Disabled EGS and yeah, idle temps are down. Glad I caught this thread.
Could adjust your fan curve, I have mine set to be basically silent until about 55 C.
~5% CPU usage on my i5-8600K (6 cores/6 threads). Both GOG Galaxy and Steam are around 0.1%.
So yeah, that's really bad for a simple background task.
Personally it doesn't bother me that much as I only open EGS when I play one of the (free) games on it. But it's still bad and hopefully just a bug they'll fix instead of something deeply ingrained..
So yeah, that's really bad for a simple background task.
Personally it doesn't bother me that much as I only open EGS when I play one of the (free) games on it. But it's still bad and hopefully just a bug they'll fix instead of something deeply ingrained..
This isn't a thing where ppl are relying on this redditor as fact.
Look at your own resource it's using, not temps. Temp change is different depending on your CPU power where old cpus will hit higher % to do whatever the hell it is doing while "idling" or cooling solution. Most cases ppl won't notice a change if all you look at is temps.
The temperature thing is sort of an adjacent issue where people likely have very lax fan curves (to maintain silence while idling or doing low impact tasks), which amplifies the effect of a single process deciding to ramp things up.
Someone with a more aggressive fan curve, or a better cooling setup, isn't really going to see a huge difference. Like I said for myself, despite seeing the EGS almost hitting 20% cpu usage at times while the store was open, my fan curve is so aggressive that I really only saw a 2-3C difference at best while idling vs idling + epic store open.
I don't think the thread title is accurate in that it takes a specific setup to have the same exact result as the redditor, but overall the idea that EGS is a resource hog relative to every other storefront on PC is valid and very easy to prove.
If you have a fan curve that keeps the fans low until they reach a certain point, and then rapidly increase to compensate, something like a rogue process forcing the CPU to stay awake and clocked high is going to keep temperatures up near the edge of that inflection point.
If you have a fan curve that keeps fans high (or you have an aftermarket heatsink/water cooling that just keeps it super cool even under load), then yeah a single process keeping the CPU from idling probably won't change too much.
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It happens sometimes, and was likely a bug that finally got fixed by following a trick. There was no background loading, no downloading, no game decryption after a launch date.
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Btw, if someone isn't against using GOG Galaxy 2.0 you should play EGS games through that. It only seem to use a fraction of EGS and it's officially supports EGS. I had a hard time finding out if it ran EGS at all when I launched EGS games via GOG Galaxy 2.0. Here is what it used when I found out it was a background app in the task manager.
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To chime in here with something not exactly relevant to the topic at hand, but tangential, there definitely is "something up" with the epic launcher.
Whenever I try to run it on my laptop, it is absolutely unusable due to the frame rate of the launcher being maybe around 5fps at most. For what is essentially a glorified webpage (on a modern laptop that is by no means a "slouch") that is really isn't acceptable, so I'd certainly believe that it causes some funky stuff to happen on Ryzen CPUs too.
Whenever I try to run it on my laptop, it is absolutely unusable due to the frame rate of the launcher being maybe around 5fps at most. For what is essentially a glorified webpage (on a modern laptop that is by no means a "slouch") that is really isn't acceptable, so I'd certainly believe that it causes some funky stuff to happen on Ryzen CPUs too.
lol so their store is an unreal game, vs everyone else who reskins a browser
i'mma sure it looks nice, but I can guess why it's not exactly low cpu
it's platform is designed to extract and utilise power, as opposed to a decent browser that ideally should be doing almost nothing in a rest state
complain enough and we'll probably end up with better low power support in unreal, eventually, dont hold breath
i'mma sure it looks nice, but I can guess why it's not exactly low cpu
it's platform is designed to extract and utilise power, as opposed to a decent browser that ideally should be doing almost nothing in a rest state
complain enough and we'll probably end up with better low power support in unreal, eventually, dont hold breath
Steam had some serious CPU issues when they put the new Library as it loaded a ton of assets. It wasnt weird for it to go up to 1%+ back then, and thats why they added the performance modes for the Library. Now it has gotten better even in the base state.It happens sometimes, and was likely a bug that finally got fixed by following a trick. There was no background loading, no downloading, no game decryption after a launch date.
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Btw, if someone isn't against using GOG Galaxy 2.0 you should play EGS games through that. It only seem to use a fraction of EGS and it's officially supports EGS. I had a hard time finding out if it ran EGS at all when I launched EGS games via GOG Galaxy 2.0. Here is what it used when I found out it was a background app in the task manager.
Regarding GOG Galaxy and EGS, it still opens up EGS for the game I think.
Ryzen 5 3600x
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The fact that a program uses CPU on startup isn't particularly interesting. If it is still using the CPU like that ten minutes after starting when it's just running in the background, then that is a problem.
That's what I was testing in that thread. For me EGS wasn't showing up in the task manager but in the backgrounds in task manager. I tested it with many games, I used Celeste eventually because it was light and booted fast for the tests. I thought it wasn't using EGS at all, it was weird.
Hitman 3 Now EGS Exclusive
I tried with Borderlands and the only time I got EGS to show up was to try downloading a game that I didn't have installed. Borderlands require EGS to run so I thought that would be a good one to test. EGS wasn't in the tray or on the toolbar. I guess some games put EGS up, maybe the GOG version...
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My 5900X goes from 28 at idle to around 35 with EGS open, and a 2-3% usage increase. Steam barely changes the temperature or usage.
WHAT!, is that true?
Edit: Holy shit, the CPU and GPU usage is off the charts when the launcher is open on the foreground. What the HELL!
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I just want to add to this convo that this isn't anything new. I'm not sure why this is suddenly news, but this has been an issue with the EGS launcher for the past few years now. I'm sure some of you may remember where it was "implied" that the launcher was collecting data from various things in your PC, including checking on if you had Steam installed.
(1) Epic Game Store, Spyware, Tracking, and You! : Games (reddit.com)
There are various threads/subreddits regarding this very issue. It's not new.
(1) Epic Game Store, Spyware, Tracking, and You! : Games (reddit.com)
There are various threads/subreddits regarding this very issue. It's not new.
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https://www.dsogaming.com/news/epic...temperature-on-some-amd-ryzen-and-intel-cpus/
" It has also been reported that the Epic Games Launcher/EGL is sending 14x more as much data as Steam and NVIDIA Geforce Experience, while working in the background during the same timeframe. "
I wonder if this is actually real and if the launcher is really made in UE4
" It has also been reported that the Epic Games Launcher/EGL is sending 14x more as much data as Steam and NVIDIA Geforce Experience, while working in the background during the same timeframe. "
I wonder if this is actually real and if the launcher is really made in UE4
Sorry, do you have a source for this? I did some research but couldn't find anything.
I found the thing regarding Unreal Engine. EGS at least used the crash reporter from UE.
answers.unrealengine.com
answers.unrealengine.com
I've being having this error
This error closes the Epic Games Store automatically every single time I open it. I did sent a ticket in the Epic Games Store Community but I was told to report it here, hope you can help, I will add a photo of the error that keeps happening every time I open the launcher
answers.unrealengine.com
Kernel32 and ntdll epic games launcher error
I cant launch my epic games launcher, I have linked a picture of the error log file.
answers.unrealengine.com
That reddit post is a lot of tinfoil-hattery and "I'm not going to promote this crypto-racist conspiracy but it is the preamble to my post anyway."
What are we supposed to learn from it?
You can use GOG Galaxy instead of the Epic Games Launcher. Native support got added some time ago.
You can redeem the games from the website, without needing to use or install the client.
Or, even better, you can not use the EGS at all :)
Epic's director of publishing strategy said on russian gaming website that they aware of this bug and currently "investigating it":
Ryzen 5 3600x
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Seeing the Ryzen Master in those Screenshots. I had it for a while and read a little bit about using the auto OC not being a great idea for a CPU like the 3600x (it's in my build too) - what's your experience with the program? Do you use it often? Do you use it to overclock?
