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It means devs have to spend their time and money in tech investment to make it possible on Sony consoles while it's built into the tech stack for Xbox consoles and requires significantly less time investment.
there are ps4-ps5 games that do too, but the point is their backend has been a shitshow in this regard forever. It likely means you have to be very specific regarding SKUs for it to work. I mean, this seems really obvious, frankly. It's much like how a disc version of a game and a digital version of a game are 'different' on ps4 somehow, while on xbox it doesn't give a shit it just says 'oh yeah, you're playing Rainbow Six Siege' and pulls the correct version and doesn't care if it'[s a disc or not.
I guess it's up to developers to choose how they want to incorporate cross-save on PS5. Bit of a shame a couple of games aren't taking advantage of it.
I don't think that's a patch, that's just the next-gen version, isn't it?
Not totally related since this isn't backwards compatibility. At least with Spider-Man Miles Morales (which has a free upgrade and cross-saves), the PS4 version will serve as a key for you to be able to download the native PS5 version. It is not a patch that you download and install on the OG PS4 version.
Umm, there is a timed exclusive next gen patch, hero character and multiplayer mode (tetris effect), so I can expect everything.
I was going to make a sarcastic post about maybe MS paid for cross-gen save exclusivity but I guess there are people who truly believe that might be the case...
No, that's not a patch. It's a different SKU that you'll get an upgrade to, that's how all of these work on PS5.
If it's a unique PS4 to unique PS5 release situation, then that does make sense that it's up to the developer since Sony doesn't have a standardized system like Xbox does since Xbox is handling these cross-gen releases in just what seems to be a fundamentally different way (one SKU versus two for Sony). This doesn't tell us anything about backwards compatability yet and for now seems to be an issue exclusive to the first year or so where cross-gen would be most relevant.
Now THAT is a scary thought, CP2077 saves not carrying over would cause a massive shitstorm.
NBA 2K is only bringing over the online feature saves. Things like MyCareer aren't transferring.
Miles Morales seems to be operating as a single sku when you buy it for $49.99, not 2 separate skus like every other game seems to be.
For NBA2K current to next gen:
Will NBA 2K21 saves on PS4 and Xbox One transfer to PS5 and Xbox Series X? | Gamepur
I think the "cross save" functionality requires very specific implementation to be supported or some type of conversion to happen between systems and generations where as in Microsoft's case, they've implemented a common save format for saves that work across cloud, various systems and generations.
It IS possible to have saves work across Sony's platforms, but it feels like it requires development resources to do so… where as in Microsoft's case, things just work.
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Neither or those are really the same situation at all. C'mon now, no company is gonna be moneyhatting fucking cross-saves.
Based on what evidence we have, the Xbox team just did a much better job at this transition than Sony did. I'm not making that as a comment on sales, console wars or winners and losers, they just have a much friendlier path forward. That will inevitably make my decision as a primary console much easier.
Remember all the people that mocked Smart Delivery for months on this very same site? Smart Delivery doesn't look that dumb now, huh.
What a mess. Microsofts communication with their new gen has been incredibly impressive. I dipped out early on the 360 and skipped the One entirely but happy to be building a PC. Sony has a ton of explaining to do. At least acknowledge that there's some sort of clarity and transparency coming soon ffs.
Why are people blaming Sony for this? Its not like Sony went to the devs and said "no we don't want that". Maybe the devs couldn't figure it out yet or have to implement this feature for Sonys consoles? We already know that transfering the progress works on other games, its most probably up to the devs.
What the fuck are Sony playing at? They weren't joking with the whole 'we believe in separate generations' talk.
this is ridiculousManeater too
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it's working on the microsoft console. Sony should have delivered a tool for devs to make this process easy., because they own the platform. it seems they did not.
Made for PS5 and downgraded to PS4 seems to be the main difference here, despite not being able to confirm it for Avengers after playing it on ps4 and xbox i'm convinced it was really meant to be a next gen game.
They're already spending time and effort offering these free upgrades. I'd almost (not really) not want the free upgrade - it creates a connection between the two versions that really needs the save to progress as well.
Or may be when Sony are not paying, the devs don't have time and willingness to make additional adjustments, if playstation cross save system is more complicated.
So the only confirmed game (non service game category) that has cross save on PS5 is Miles Morales.
I hope Cyberpunk 2077 has cross save because I was planning on getting that at launch to play on my PS5 but I might need to wait if my progress won't carry over when the next-gen patch comes out next year.
I hope Cyberpunk 2077 has cross save because I was planning on getting that at launch to play on my PS5 but I might need to wait if my progress won't carry over when the next-gen patch comes out next year.
yeah assuming it's a title ID issue i'm trying to figure out the issue/s for each game
i've read that you can tie only two title IDs together, so with that you get this problem:
spiderman [ps4 original release]
spiderman [ps4 game of the year edition]
both of those games are tied together and so saves work, as does trophy progress
spiderman remastered [ps5 release]
can't be connected as the two title limit as already hit.
compare it to the following:
spiderman miles morales [ps4 release]
spiderman miles morales [ps5 release]
this can be connected as there's only the two titles.
forgive me if i've got the details for the above wrong, just trying to think of a possible situation that seperates spiderman ps5 and miles morales ps5 behaviour. i'm wondering if dirt has a bunch of versions in the sony database that makes cross-gen progress sharing impossible.
Yes. CDPR announcing the game supports Smart Delivery implies it is a next gen version like we're seeing with all these other games.
PS4 to PS5 save states is a hot mess, now there is no denying anymore. Yakuza, Maneater, Dirt 5 so far and these games won´t be the last.
btw, i´ve tweeted Ubisoft, asking about how they handle this. no answer, so you can guess that it will be the same there.
So the option inside PSN exists, but it seems to be hard for devs to use... because in this thread alone there are two games getting Smart Delivery save transfer but nothing for PS5...
Good question, maybe Sony will give the time to give a deeper dive into a question period.
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Why the onus on them and not Sony? It is their platform after all and one of the reasons why many prefer console gaming is it's walled garden.
They said it would be an extensive patch in 2021, but perhaps it also has a Series X/Smart Delivery style listing prepared on Xbox internally
Seems like Xbox is definitely the place to be if you care about replaying older games.
I do like the overreacting in this thread though. It sucks but Sony isn't doomed or is somehow in the posistion that Xbox was in during the Matrick days just because some titles don't support cross saves. Take a chill pill.
I do like the overreacting in this thread though. It sucks but Sony isn't doomed or is somehow in the posistion that Xbox was in during the Matrick days just because some titles don't support cross saves. Take a chill pill.