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Dirt 5 dev: PS5 and Xbox Series X GPU Gap Doesn’t Really Have a Development Impact
- Thread starter Tiago Rodrigues
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Yep, as expected.
And the bottom line is the logical one, when you need to optimize for Series S, having the PS5 in the middle is like nothing.
And the bottom line is the logical one, when you need to optimize for Series S, having the PS5 in the middle is like nothing.
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Edit 2: Most studios, especially third-party studios, will not be pushing the consoles that hard in their release titles. That includes Codemasters.
This will be due to a mix of reasons relating to time, hardware access (it typically takes over two years to make a game) , the fact that a game like Dirt 5 has to work on a potato and maintaining parity between different console versions of the game. That's why I think this quote is useless and says absolutely nothing about the power differences between the two next gen consoles.
And to those who are acting like they know their shit and other smartasses, we'll see in 2-3 years. In the meantime, try to work on those social skills.
This will be due to a mix of reasons relating to time, hardware access (it typically takes over two years to make a game) , the fact that a game like Dirt 5 has to work on a potato and maintaining parity between different console versions of the game. That's why I think this quote is useless and says absolutely nothing about the power differences between the two next gen consoles.
And to those who are acting like they know their shit and other smartasses, we'll see in 2-3 years. In the meantime, try to work on those social skills.
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This is good news. And really makes you wonder about that RE5 rumor, Codemasters knows their ish.
At least 7 skus of a cross-gen game (One S, One X, Series S, Series X, PS4, PS5, PC) all with graphics and performance modes.
At least 7 skus of a cross-gen game (One S, One X, Series S, Series X, PS4, PS5, PC) all with graphics and performance modes.
What does that have to do with anything?
One devs problem is not always the others. They can have problems while other devs are fine.
Don't tell anyone, but this is why I haven't preordered any third-party games and am waiting for DF comparisons. SHHHHH.
I don't think it's 100% a given that Series X will outperform the PS5 as handily as the One X did the Pro, and I'm expecting things to be a bit more competitive game to game.
I don't think it's 100% a given that Series X will outperform the PS5 as handily as the One X did the Pro, and I'm expecting things to be a bit more competitive game to game.
Yeah this time of last gen we had 900p vs 1080p for AC4. I don't think any game is having a difference like that at launch.
Of course it doesn't change the development targets. Especially on a cross-platform cross-gen game.
You still have to tweak the games to work on the hardware. Whether that is resolution, LOD, texture quality, etc.
This doesn't mean there won't be some differences across hardware.
You still have to tweak the games to work on the hardware. Whether that is resolution, LOD, texture quality, etc.
This doesn't mean there won't be some differences across hardware.
Expected. The GPU gap last generation was ~30%, this time it's ~16%. It was never going to amount to anything substantial.
I don't think Codemasters would want him to say "oh Xbox is clearly more powerful" even if it was the case. You know, business relations...
Yeah, I was gonna say. In the case of Dirt 5, and all games releasing in the next 12 months, that's likely true. If anything it will be the games a couple years from now when PS4/Xbone are long gone, and devs have learned the new systems, where it will matter
(also, you're never going to get a third party developer on record in an interview shit on the power of one of the platforms)
I'm in the same boat and I even think the PS5 will have advantages of its own and those advantages, like faster loading and less pop-in, will probably tip me over into buying my multiplats on PS5.
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Yeah...says someone optimizing games for both consoles...so someone that actually knows what they are talking about.
I mean, if they never made a fuss about it in the past with PS4 and Xbox One, no reason to stir up that hornet's nest of toxicity now especially when they are a multiplat developer.
Whatever the power gap manifests as, DF and somesuch outlet will cover it.
Personally, I only expect the Dynamic resolution scaling and peak resolution to be a bit different (less than what's between Pro and X).
Whatever the power gap manifests as, DF and somesuch outlet will cover it.
Personally, I only expect the Dynamic resolution scaling and peak resolution to be a bit different (less than what's between Pro and X).
So wait, they're a multiplat dev making a cross-gen game, which would make them the ideal developer to have that kind of first-hand knowledge, but also they're probably lying because business relations?
same. If they're really close - perhaps to the point of being practically identical - then that lets me choose perhaps based on better haptics etc
Same teralop difference, smaller percentage.
4 vs 6 now 10 vs 12
That's what I got from it but I just assumed there was more in the actual article that I didn't click on or something. This all seems very "no-brainer".
Think about it this way. The difference between Series X and PS5 GPU wise could be down to counting pixels or waiting for a DF video. The difference between Series X and PS5 SSD could be apparent to everyone. We simply don't know yet. So I'd def wait for direct comparisons on the ports.
Right. They are touching damn near everything lol. They would know.
We are at the start of the new gen.
Statements like these mean absolute nothing in 2 years. Let's talk then.
Statements like these mean absolute nothing in 2 years. Let's talk then.
Should probably stress in the OP that this isn't saying there is no difference, just that the difference isn't hard to develop for. There's an important distinction there. Series S and Series X are also designed to be easy to develop for (obviously we'll have to hear from devs whether that's true) despite having significantly different amounts of power.
Let's have the same conversation in two years, with everything being cross gen I don't know how any developer has had enough time to say accurately
Yup, the SSD advantage may grow over the especially when devs start coding around it.
The difference between Series X and PS5 SSD might be a huge one in absolute percentages but if it's down to single digit seconds people will neither really care nor notice. We are not talking about load times in the minutes like this gen anymore, thankfully.
When it comes to new gameplay ideas, I'm doubtful it will mean much for third party anyway.
Xbox fanboys will be playing with a magnifying glass and PlayStation fanboys will be playing with stop watches.
You got it. He talked about development and gameplay perspective, not about graphics.
He didn't talk about graphics at all. But I do agree that the difference between the consoles won't be big.
It's build to scale to PS4 and Xbox One S.
I don't think they'd be lying, but if you've been following videogames for a while you should know that nobody will make clear comments about a power difference between competing consoles early in their life cycles. That's Digital Foundry's job.
LOL yeah.
What's the first thing the media did when they got the Series X? They compared load times to One and One X. This is going to happen all next gen.
The only ones thinking the smallest performance delta in generations would amount to anything substantial was either delusional or having an agenda.
Anyone that thought any different is delusional. There is an overwhelming amount of evidence and common sense that proves this.
I have called this before, the SSD would make for more of a noticeable difference than a 17% GPU advantage between two consoles f which one of them shares a house with a 4F console.
I have called this before, the SSD would make for more of a noticeable difference than a 17% GPU advantage between two consoles f which one of them shares a house with a 4F console.
hahahaha. Sadly I can already see the hottakes and lazy devs rhetoric by PS and Xbox fanboys, if a Xbox games doesn't look better or a PS game doesn't have visible shorter loading.
I mean, besides the, very possible, gap with Series X (even if it will be small), you also have like 10 other big reasons for it to be the main console in comparison. I personally made my decision long time ago and with every hands-on so far it's like my decision gets validated on weekly bases. You have to look at the whole picture, not only that one thing that will be 1:1 equal at worst.
Get both on day one by the way.
okay...
Who else would be able to even make such a claim? A first party developer who has no direct access to the other platform?
Except that's clearly not what they're talking about, as evident by the thread title, the quote in OP, and the article.
Halfing a loading time in single digits seconds won't make much of a difference either.
I do believe the difference between both consoles will be very small this gen both in graphics and in loading, both having a small advantage in one of two metrics.