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Digitimes || Ryzen 4000 Delayed to January 2021 Due to Ryzen 3000 Success [Up: Apparently false rumor; AMD says everything on track]
- Thread starter ILikeFeet
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So PCGamer doesn't think the rumour is true:
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/amd-ryzen-4000-delay-rumour/
https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/amd-ryzen-4000-delay-rumour/
I will be honest with you. If u gonna wait to get a cpu next year it will be a bad move. 2022 everything will change on pc arch. We gonna have pci-e 5.0, ddr5.
With amd pushing series 4000 to 2021 the best move is to grab a 3700-3800 and wait until 2022 for a complete overhaul.
Really? Would a Zen3 4000 and a GTX 3000 not be enough for games designed with the consoles as a base line?
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For the whole generation? I don't think so for both.
A gtx 780 ti had problems with memory for the newest games.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought myself. No way would they have come out to repeatedly say these past 40 days that it's launching this year (including to investors) only for them to change last minute and 180.
Oh without a doubt the graphics card will need to be swapped out but I'd just like a CPU that can go the distance.
Thanks for the advice. Is it worth the extra cash to get a 3800 over a 3700?
If u gonna upgrade after ddr5 no. If u plan to stay more time with the cpu yes.
Just don't buy a 6 cores for next gen
No, only if the 3800 is an insignificant amount more money (like $10-20). It only performs 1-2% better than 3700.
If it does get delayed it makes sense, considering their factories were first to close come the initial COVID outbreak. Not sure why people would think it's AMD being cocky in the current climate, if it turns out true.
Also love the people on 3600's fretting that their CPU would be outdated. You are fine, it's a beast of a CPU and won't need upgrading for some time.
Also love the people on 3600's fretting that their CPU would be outdated. You are fine, it's a beast of a CPU and won't need upgrading for some time.
More of a want than a need i have the upgrade itch at the moment. If the 4000 series really is as big of an IPC improvement i'm seriously considering whatever is the 3900x equivalent. Hoping this will last me until next generation.
If you get dragged in this cycle then you wil constantly waiting for the next big thing.
Waiting few months for Ampere is reasonable, thinking about what could release in 2022 right now is ridiculous.
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Do you mean at console settings or smashing everything out on ultra? Because the 780ti still handles ps4 pro setttings at current games just fine.
While its true they stated multiple times Zen3 is coning this year, they didn't specify Ryzen 4000. Could be the Epyc cpus for all we know.
Absolutely not, you're talking a couple percentage point difference in gaming performance.
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The IPC gains from jaguar to zen 3 are enormous. That said, a 3700X is not going to be the bottleneck in any system until you get to a 2080 Ti. That is except for a few CPU straining titles.
For what it's worth, PCWorld claims sources told them not to worry.
www.pcworld.com
Is AMD Zen 3 delayed until 2021? Nope
AMD's Zen 3 apparently won't be delayed until 2021, despite rumors suggesting so.
www.pcworld.com
3700x bottleneck a 2080 ti? So it will bottleneck a 3070(~2080 ti perf) ?
Even with ultra settings at 2160p in a demanding game like Metro Exodus.
Note that the 3900X with its 4x 3-core CCX layout performs worse here than the 3700X with its 2x 4-core CCX layout.
This is why I have doubts about the 6-core 3600 (2x 3-core CCXes) being equivalent to next-gen consoles even if it clocks higher—though it should be fine for early/cross-gen games.
The main change with Zen 3 is that it's said to double the number of cores per CCX; requiring fewer of them.
I'm hopeful this will help to close the gap between AMD and Intel in real-time tasks/games; but I'll probably be buying Intel next anyway if AMD don't relent and support Zen 3 on 300-series boards.
Holy shit I didn't know ryzen 3000 series was so bad like that on 4k... The diff for 10900k is insane.Even with ultra settings at 2160p in a demanding game like Metro Exodus.
Note that the 3900X with its 4x 3-core CCX layout performs worse here than the 3700X with its 2x 4-core CCX layout.
This is why I have doubts about the 6-core 3600 (2x 3-core CCXes) being equivalent to next-gen consoles even if it clocks higher—though it should be fine for early/cross-gen games.
The main change with Zen 3 is that it's said to double the number of cores per CCX; requiring fewer of them.
I'm hopeful this will help to close the gap between AMD and Intel in real-time tasks/games; but I'll probably be buying Intel next anyway if AMD don't relent and support Zen 3 on 300-series boards.
It's not... on average. That scene in Metro Exodus is brutal (particularly on specific zen CPUs). But the problem is that it's very difficult to make repeatable benchmarks indicative of true gameplay experiences, and without going to a lot of effort it can be difficult to determine where a good stress point for CPUs might be. This is not an indictment of Ryzen, because we don't really know if the experience is actually always fantastic except for 1 or 2 stress points in one game. But we also don't really know if issues like that are more widespread, and I haven't seen any good proposal to make CPU benchmarking more true-to-life while not suffering from massive run-to-run variance. I do generally agree with something Richard from DF said in CPU reviews, which is basically that it's not the high average frametimes you notice most of the time, it's the momentary lurches and freezes that bother you.
I don't know if it's my CPU or some other goofy component in my system, or some odd compatibility or driver issue, but on my Zen+ CPU I get a lot of frustrating microstutters and frametime variance in a large number of games. None of this showed up in CPU reviews, really, which gave the impression of a lower, but still very good experience on my Ryzen 2700. That hasn't been what I've felt owning it. But without spending a week troubleshooting every possible thing, I just don't know. Even using Nvid control panel or RTSS to limit frametimes (and I'm also running G-sync), I still can't get fully smooth experiences in some games, even when I cap at e.g. 80fps when my average is 133 or whatever.
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That scene in Metro Exodus is a meme, especially since AMD CPUs are much better on the game's DX11 mode apparently.
It's not really. That's just one scene in Metro Exodus and not representative of 4K gaming on Ryzen.
Source: Me with a 3900x
Darn waiting for the 4000 series to upgrade. It'll be the first desktop AMD processor setup I'll have had in close to two decades.
early rumors had Base clocks being a bit higher on the XT chips but they're the exact same as their X counterparts...the new CPU's have only a 100MHz increase in Boost clocks...I don't see the point unless there's something else I'm missing...a 3600XT with a Base clock of 4.0 would have been the bee's knees
Is AMD Zen 3 delayed until 2021? Nope
www.pcworld.com
Is AMD Zen 3 delayed until 2021? Nope
AMD's Zen 3 apparently won't be delayed until 2021, despite rumors suggesting so.
www.pcworld.com
I think you can wait. Your CPU should be good for 60fps for a while
Arrrrgh! I am in dire need of a new build that can run next gen stuff. I was planning on NVIDIA 30xx and Ryzen 4xxx, not I gotta put that off. This sucks.
AMD Confirms 2020 Launch
Everyone can officially relax now.
www.forbes.com
AMD Confirms Zen 3 Ryzen Processors Still On Track For 2020
PC hardware enthusiasts rejoice: AMD has confirmed that recent rumors its highly-anticipated Zen 3 Ryzen 4000 CPUs are not delayed till 2021 and are still on track to launch later this year.
www.forbes.com
Everyone can officially relax now.
AMD Confirms Zen 3 Ryzen Processors Still On Track For 2020
PC hardware enthusiasts rejoice: AMD has confirmed that recent rumors its highly-anticipated Zen 3 Ryzen 4000 CPUs are not delayed till 2021 and are still on track to launch later this year.
that's 2 ''rumor'' that digitime posted that are complete bull first the 5nm zen 3 and then this they need better ''source''
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Anyone found an actual AMD quote on this? I checked some of the articles posted but couldn't find an actual quote.
Example:
Cool, but that was not the rumor. The rumor was specifically that Zen 3 Ryzen 4000 desktop CPUs wouldn't launch this year.
Just trying to figure out if they're actually trying to wriggle out of this, or if the reporting is just bad.
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Cool, but that was not the rumor. The rumor was specifically that Zen 3 Ryzen 4000 desktop CPUs wouldn't launch this year.
Just trying to figure out if they're actually trying to wriggle out of this, or if the reporting is just bad.
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