yes they should all max out around 520-550MB/s on 3.1. ps5 on 3.1 gen 2 would be around 1100-1200MB/s if saturated so that may benefit from switching from SATA 6 to nvme
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yes they should all max out around 520-550MB/s on 3.1. ps5 on 3.1 gen 2 would be around 1100-1200MB/s if saturated so that may benefit from switching from SATA 6 to nvme
Wouldn't this only be the case if we were looking at a transfer rate for a single large file? Modern Warfare probably has thousands of small files that need to be transferred, and that point it's more about the random read/write of the drive rather than bandwidth.
Having access to next-gen hardware to experiment and crunch data Vs hypotheticals, lift yourself outside of your narrow pov to see why the former is far, far more interesting to any enthusiast. The viewed numbers of a video tear down isn't going to change that, nor will it answer burning questions about next gen that they can discover right this minute through continued empirical analysis. Rich's findings about next gen CPU playing a significant role in SSD speeds for instance, we have cold hard data to back that up now, these discoveries are much more helpful then waxing lyrical about components shown in a video.
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Wow 😂 that is totally uncalled for. I think if you take a moment and step back you will realise that is garbage u just posted. Cmon your better than that surely?
I have two 512GB sata SSDs. I'm about to run this... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CQ6C4MW/ref=cm_sw_r_sms_apa_i_A9IGFbCFTHG8X
I am probably overthinking this, but it seems if I am going for a future proof a SATA to USB Cable (that can be used with both Xbox and PS5) I should go for the USB 3.1 due to better transfer speed opportunities?
Since the xbox does not offer a USB C port I need to get a female USB C to A adapter, right?
It is cheaper to get an older SATA to USB cable that is limited to 5Gbps, but it would be a bad investment for future ps5 ssd options...
Since the xbox does not offer a USB C port I need to get a female USB C to A adapter, right?
It is cheaper to get an older SATA to USB cable that is limited to 5Gbps, but it would be a bad investment for future ps5 ssd options...
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ill probably take an unpopular opinion here.
while i do agree that not having the console makes it kinda harder to talk about it, that never stopped you guys before and you managed to put out great content nonetheless. Some other, like Innocenseii, did not need the console either.
but there was a lot to deconstruct from that video, like the intentional form factor of the console, the single board, the liquid metal used on a mass produced device for the first time and what it involves in terms of production line, the weird shaped humonguous heat sink that is supposed to equal a vapor chamber on heat dissipation (like can we even trust that?)
there was a lot to question or put in perspective in there, and that feels like a missing opportunity.
I don't believe for a second the fact sony's console teardown did not go through usual channels has anything to do with your lack of coverage
... but it's just weird!
John honestly explained their prioritization of coverage. They don't have unlimited resources to do everything at once so they have to prioritize. They're able to offer more valuable insight with hands on hardware than from afar. They already had something in process. It's not weird.
That's a good point.
I'm not sure if plain video files can be transferred but that could be something to test.
There is nothing wrong with prioritizing indeed. It's more about the "nothing to see here" that makes it weird.
But again for those eager to see some great analysis, there is NX Gamer and Innocenseii whose channel are growing in quality without a doubt.
I have yet to see one kinda funny video. Perhaps it is really just me that I don't care what others say about the teardown video because I can make up my own mind about it.
But I feel like I'm out of touch when it comes to gaming centric media, I also don't watch people on Twitch playing games. I only watch DF and vgtech videos and that's it.
Right now, I've got a 5TB WD Black external HDD and a 500GB Samsung SSD hooked up to my X1X. I figure I'll keep that setup for now unless some SSDs go on sale for Prime Day/Black Friday/Etc. As much as I'd like to have faster transfer speeds and better BC performance from the external drives, I just can't justify the cost right now. Cold storage and slower transfer times should be fine for me for the first year.
Having hands-on, in-house capture with the actual hardware for an extend window makes it straightforward to make content. If a company doesn't make something like that possible, or provide anything more than superficial materials, they won't get that kind of coverage. It's not confusing or weird, trust me.
3.1 = 3.0 = 3.2
3.1 10 Gbits is the actual 3.1
3.2 20 Gbits is the actual 3.2
They just rebranded the earlier standard with the new number so stuff could say "USB 3.2 support" and somehow make people believe that 3.2 5Gbits is faster than 3.0 5Gbits
He didn't say they don't want to cover it. He said in terms of priority, given they were in the middle of some other videos, and given there wasn't a ton to add that hadn't already been done by other people, it made more sense for them to prioritize what they were already working on since that was relevant to previous news that a lot of people wanted to see beforehand.
They havn't covered the AMD launch of their new cpu's either, does everything have to be a conspiracy?? Richard does the hard analysis, he's probably incredibly busy at the moment and doesn't have the time to waste talking about a video when he is probably trying to get content ready for the launch of like 2 (or 4 if you count the cheaper skus) consoles, 3 or 4 cpu's and 3 or 4 gpus in the first 2 weeks on november.
that's fair enough i used to not get or watch reaction videos but now I love them and their is no denying their popularity. Ow just a quick glance at DF and their videos seem to get around the 180k-250k views on average or so. Just looking at 2 of their DF direct reactions all are over 600k relating to the PS5 specs. That tells me their is an audience hungry for the content.
Thanks for the clarification. It does get confusing with the naming shenanigans. I will get whatever is cheaper.
It's probably the worst naming scheme for a standards upgrade path.
Like how do you break the X.X naming convention so badly.
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What was weird was the answer he gave. He added that ' uninteresting' part that was not really needed, and it is not the first time he is unnecessarily harsh with something PlayStation related.
It is obvious that they had worked in this video which is interesting, and was their priority (i hope there's a similar one for ps5 when available, to see if those speedier usb ports reduce loading even further for bc games).
But defining the ps5 video like he did, when their own channel have done a similar approach with series X and when people have been really interested in ps5 cooling solution for obvious reasons, was really adding fuel to the fire when not needed.
As I play right now on X1X, I use a Sammy T3 500gb as my main game drive so moving that to a Series X will still give a decent bump in performance for the BC games. Neat!
What is exactly unnecessary or harsh about me having an opinion and expressing it? Especially since I describe it as my own opinion and my opinion alone (so not that of DF). I can find something uninteresting - a very normal thing. Especially since I have my own interests at DF and my own specialisation: console Hardware builds whether they be Xbox or playstation design happen to not be the Things that interest me. I care about game optimsation, techniques and PC platform related things: how a console is physically put together or disassembled is not my area of remit or what I personally care about. The fire you mention onto which "fuel Was added" is purely in the collective conscience of those projecting conspiracies onto my opinion. An opinion which I have no reason to hide as it is merely an opinion, and like all opinions in such a trivial matters, does not have any consequence beyond its expression.
Salty people turn another thread into a shit show?
this thread is verging on the embarrassing. Some of the comments are really childish. It's a Xbox thread which has gone to pot thanks to a small minority
Appreciate the work you and your team do. Don't know how anyone that's followed DF for years can come up with these conspiracies. Hope you continue to interact with the community despite the nonsense.
Conspiracy warriors that try to find a storm in a teacup try to ruin another thread. Fuck off with the old console warrior shit from the gamefaqs era.
DF will cover your preffered corporate master when the time comes. Also, its better for them to have their own opinions that being the very own hype husk you want them to be.
its the minority, and feel free to have comment on a thing they could do better but man but accusatory, ridiculous shit like this.
DF will cover your preffered corporate master when the time comes. Also, its better for them to have their own opinions that being the very own hype husk you want them to be.
its the minority, and feel free to have comment on a thing they could do better but man but accusatory, ridiculous shit like this.
Everything you mentioned is completely valid, trust me, i feel your frustration with the unnecessary nitpicking going on. Love the work you guys put into your videos, sorry you have to deal with conspiracy theorists.
honestly I know it must be hard and I enjoy Reading your views, but honest you should not engage with the trolls. You all have said your reasoning in other videos already. It's fine.
No matter what you say these people will find a way to twist your words.
So as has been said thanks for all your hard work I enjoy it so much and keep it up!
When i do not care about something, i usually don't comment on it. I just happen to ignore it and move to the next thing. So i feel that stating that it was not interesting for you, which is fine and no need further explanations on why or anything like that, was not necessary there. Because the way you worded may lead to conclusions as had, in fact, happened.
Just stating that you had been working on the loading comparison video was enough (it wasn't even needed to explain imo, because if you have xsx to test, the normal thing is to try it and make content about it)
In spanish there's a say that more or less is like this : además de serlo, hay que parecerlo.
DF doesnt have a ps5, so they can only have a "reaction" video about sony's video.
Plus, I am sure that if one took the apu images from sony's video and compared them to xbox x's apu, you wouldn't be very happy.
The same with the cooling solution, if one tried to make an analysis of it.
So why should you complain? Bottom line, its better for you and your interersts.
Imagine being so fucking attached to a videogame platform that you get upset when someone calls a highly edited teardown video "uninteresting".
I don't complain about a DF video.I don't ask for a reaction video. I just point that part of a post from one of the DF crew in this thread was, imo, unnecessary and can lead to certain conclusions.
Dictator you don't even need to respond to that bro. Those that have known you for a long time know your passions and quality of work. Don't worry about it brotha it's Sunday
For literally no one but you. Alex made it really clear what he meant but you kept reading into it over and over and you are STILL doing it.
There's a mod post right above yours telling people to drop it, this includes you.
After seeing this I'm really hoping we start to see standard SSD storage capacity increase to fall more in line with mechanical hard drives as well as a sharp decrease in pricing.
I long for the day when I can replace my 8tb Xbox mechanical external for a 8tb solid state external drive 😍.
I long for the day when I can replace my 8tb Xbox mechanical external for a 8tb solid state external drive 😍.
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Check this out: https://www.amazon.com/l/17985366011?offerId=pcb-MR2DPFRJCA
If you have a Prime Visa Card, you can get 25% back on a 4tb 870 QVO. So 25% of 420 = $105 back
So that means you get 4tb of SSD storage for $315. About $78/tb on a big drive is really good!
The 2tb 860 EVO and the 1tb T7 are also here, which would both be excellent external drives for a console. The evo would need a sata to usb connector.
Anyway these prices are really good if you have the card.
Check this out: https://www.amazon.com/l/17985366011?offerId=pcb-MR2DPFRJCA
If you have a Prime Visa Card, you can get 25% back on a 4tb 870 QVO. So 25% of 420 = $105 back
So that means you get 4tb of SSD storage for $315. About $78/tb on a big drive is really good!
The 2tb 860 EVO and the 1tb T7 are also here, which would both be excellent external drives for a console. The evo would need a sata to usb connector.
Anyway these prices are really good if you have the card.
Got this from Amazon UK today, seems a really good price, 2TB for £135. I'm going to use it as cold storage and for back compat games.
Looking forward to trying it out.
Looking forward to trying it out.
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Well Microsoft is expecting SSD prices to continue to fall, so we should expect SSD prices to continue to fall and/or higher capacities to arrive at the same prices as what they are now.
This is the cheapest 1TB SSD I've ever seen at $64:
Not the best brand but it will be fine for storing last-gen games. Just needs an enclosure.
Not the best brand but it will be fine for storing last-gen games. Just needs an enclosure.
