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Digitalfoundry: Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order PS5/ Xbox Series X/ Series S - Next-Gen Patch Tested
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Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order - the 'surprise' next-gen patch tested
Wow, that came out of nowhere! A couple of days ago, Respawn Entertainment surprised us by releasing a next-gen patch f…
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I just played this from start to platinum last month. I should have waited for this patch. It was still a lot better on PS5 than it ever was on PS4 but I would have liked to play it under these improved conditions.
I feel like the series S should be capable of a higher resolution than that for a last gen game but maybe something about this game is very demanding.
Something about the combat and the animation of the character really puts me off from this game.
I got to the third world, and bounced.
Maybe I'll try again. I dunno.
I got to the third world, and bounced.
Maybe I'll try again. I dunno.
It's the best star Wars game in ages and a good third person action adventure aswell. I can recommend it, if you like Star Wars obviously, story driven games and some exploration in linear environments. It has dungeons with puzzles aswell.
Keep in mind that this is running in BC modes. All consoles just use the raw power and no RDNA2 benefits and features. I don't think the game is the best optimized game ever on any platform, tho.
Dont think its the game more so not messing around with it too much to get the VIP feature out in the shortest amount of time. Which is 60fps.
Huge upgrade.
Just finished up the game at 30 fps on Series S, but now I might go 1000 gs just to experience the 60 fps.
I know they said the resolution wasn't all that, but in the little bit that I've played of the new update the image quality was still noticeably better than what it was.
I know they said the resolution wasn't all that, but in the little bit that I've played of the new update the image quality was still noticeably better than what it was.
As a Series S owner, I'm happy with that. I think we are the most grateful with this update lmao
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Looks like this was not actually the case, and the game probably maxed out at 1260p (not 2160p) in the Quality mode on PS5.
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I played this on Series X with GamesPass. I loved it but....
MS have got some serious issues with their stack. Maybe it's just DirectX teething, maybe BC doesn't work well with their mixed memory setup or maybe their whole hyper-v/bc benefit is turning into a bottle neck. Either way this should not be the result and it's becoming all too common IMO.
MS have got some serious issues with their stack. Maybe it's just DirectX teething, maybe BC doesn't work well with their mixed memory setup or maybe their whole hyper-v/bc benefit is turning into a bottle neck. Either way this should not be the result and it's becoming all too common IMO.
Yeah, those hitches are weird and a good chunk of the game in I did notice them especially in the scene they pointed out. Has not deterred my play through, having a blast especially after picking up some more powers.
There was never a 4K mode on PS4 (or PS5 BC, or X1X). There was a quality mode which was dynamic and topped out around 1260p
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Digital foundry keeping us all classy, as usual.
They're growing into their success well. I'm sure developers watch these videos to see what people think of their work and respond, if they can through additional patches like in Dirt 5.
It's pretty cool to be a regular viewer and then see them become the gold standard for actual, real world user experience metrics.
Being reminded of the gameplay video on base consoles of last generation and then seeing after the patch goes a long, long way. XSX is a little clearer and PS5 is a little more stable. Fair.
They're growing into their success well. I'm sure developers watch these videos to see what people think of their work and respond, if they can through additional patches like in Dirt 5.
It's pretty cool to be a regular viewer and then see them become the gold standard for actual, real world user experience metrics.
Being reminded of the gameplay video on base consoles of last generation and then seeing after the patch goes a long, long way. XSX is a little clearer and PS5 is a little more stable. Fair.
According to the BC Thread here in ERA the Quality Mode ran at Native 4K on PS5There was never a 4K mode on PS4 (or PS5 BC, or X1X). There was a quality mode which was dynamic and topped out around 1260p
Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order: Every Console Tested, Tech Problems Analysed
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100%. It has some jank, but it's an overall very solid Star Wars x Dark Souls x Metroid Prime hybrid. Off the top of my head, I consider it my favorite game of 2019.
Better watch it. In another thread yesterday I was getting bombarded with responses telling me it wasn't the game, but the PS5 to blame--completely ignoring the X isn't great either.
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Can't watch it yet; do they say anything about how the graphics settings compare to the PC version?
Yes, it was dynamic 4K and on PS4 Pro it was topping up at 1260p, but on PS5 it was apparently mostly running at the top 2160p, at least based on the chart and the comments in this thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/ps5-backwards-compatibility-all-ps4-games-with-benefits.322747/There was never a 4K mode on PS4 (or PS5 BC, or X1X). There was a quality mode which was dynamic and topped out around 1260p
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This image is the pre-new patch info:
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No, maybe they touched this on their original review and is going to be valid here.
Oh, I thought the Series X upgrade was 4k60 and the Series S upgrade is kinda weird, I'd expect 1080p at least even at 60 fps.
The PS5 upgrade kinda makes sense now with those numbers, hopefully they can add some more polish in the future. Locked 1440p60 on PS5 would be nice.
The PS5 upgrade kinda makes sense now with those numbers, hopefully they can add some more polish in the future. Locked 1440p60 on PS5 would be nice.
Wat. Did someone pixel count and verify?Yes, it was dynamic 4K and on PS4 Pro it was topping up at 1260p, but on PS5 it was apparently mostly running at the top 2160p, at least based on the chart and the comments in this thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/ps5-backwards-compatibility-all-ps4-games-with-benefits.322747/
This image is the pre-new patch info.
Is there some receipts of this?Yes, it was dynamic 4K and on PS4 Pro it was topping up at 1260p, but on PS5 it was apparently mostly running at the top 2160p, at least based on the chart and the comments in this thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/ps5-backwards-compatibility-all-ps4-games-with-benefits.322747/
This image is the pre-new patch info.
Outside of the Sony 1P games have any games been improved beyond their PS4P versions in terms of resolution running in BC?
Yes, of course. Any game that used dynamic resolution scaling or had an unstable unlocked framerate on PS4 will now run at (or close to) maximum available limit for both on PS5.
I'm not sure how the information in that thread is derived, but I believe that Liebe Brave is pixelcounting from the videos recorded by various posters in the thread.
From the video:
- Series S targets 60FPS only. No "Quality" mode. 720p-900p range.
- PS5 targets 60FPS only. No "Quality" mode. Fixed 1200p resolution
- Series X offers both a 30fps Quality mode (dynamic 2160p-1512p) and 60fps Performance mode (dynamic 1440p-1080p)
- Series X and PS5 look very comparable. A little bit sharper on Series X, a little bit smoother on PS5.
- Series S|X and PS5 are all huge improvements over their last-gen counterparts
They are wrong.
Digital Foundry found to capped at 1260p back when the game came out.
It's hard to believe this ia 720~900p on Series S. O play on a 4K TV and it's one of the cleanest games i've seen.
They've just left the text as is. You can easily tell the IQ differences between 4K and what is now 1440p mode straight away.
I think posters are giving way too much credit to the PS4 Pro when it comes to running this game and so it lessens the accomplishments of the PS5 hardware on this one.
The PS4 Pro was not dynamic 2160p, nowhere near it. There are pixel counts of 960p in resolution mode and topping out at 1200p. Where have we ever seen a DRS window so wide that it could scale 5x the pixels AND be locked at 30fps?
Shout out to VGTech
The PS4 Pro was not dynamic 2160p, nowhere near it. There are pixel counts of 960p in resolution mode and topping out at 1200p. Where have we ever seen a DRS window so wide that it could scale 5x the pixels AND be locked at 30fps?
Shout out to VGTech
I'm no pixel counter, but the difference between the 4k mode and the 1080p one before the patch felt subtle to me, to the point I could barely tell the two modes apart (resolution-wise). So yeah, it probably wasn't native 4k.
John mentions this. It still says 1080p in the menu, but it's dynamic resolution that ranges between 1080p and 1440p.
that's false.
Nobody said this. The PS5 isn't to blame for the performance in the sense that the game isn't the best optimized game on any platform. However there is currently no BC game that goes beyond the best case resolution of the PS4 Pro port.
So if you say "why isn't it higher resolution, the PS5 hardware can do that", then I agree with it. But there seems to be software constrains in BC that there is no possibility to increase the resolution beyond the limit set for the PS4 Pro port (upper bound of the dynamic resolution).
No as far as I can tell. What you get on PS5 is games running mostly or always at the limit of the dynamic resolution. So a 1800p game in PS4 Pro runs at 1800p more often on PS5.
What he meant is going beyond the upper bound of the dynamic resolution. And there is no game that does that on PS5 BC. What you get as you described is a higher average within the boundaries.
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Kinda thought the same. The only time it looks bad - from the little I played - is in the pause menu with Cal standing there. It looked cleaner than say Yakuza 7 in performance mode which is 900p.
Still, I'm glad my 4KTV isn't huge.
Good for folks who want to revisit or playing for the first time, esp. now that it is on GP.
Personally, I am not going to touch that game again with a 10 ft pole or any Respawn title for that matter until after the honeymoon period with game reviewers is over and a truer picture of its quality can be ascertained.
Personally, I am not going to touch that game again with a 10 ft pole or any Respawn title for that matter until after the honeymoon period with game reviewers is over and a truer picture of its quality can be ascertained.