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Digital-only people - why are you so pushy towards physical people?
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For me it's always a case by case basis; if physical is available and I'm not 100% sure if I'll like it I'll always go physical just in case and for PS4 and Xb1 physical games they have been plummeting in price very early, but for say Nintendo games that stay full price for longer if I want to play them immediately there is 0 reason for me not to bite the bullet and even go as far to pre-load on the eShop.
I don't begrudge anyone for their choices as their choices have no affect on me at all
I don't begrudge anyone for their choices as their choices have no affect on me at all
For certain games it can be difficult to justify a physical release especially for smaller indie titles. Only because of companies like Limited Run have certain games been able to get physical editions(and bless them for that).
And yes, game discs being unlocks or cd keys at this point is terrible. It's easily one of my least favorite things this gen is buying a physical disc and still needing to install multiple gigs of data, it wouldn't be so bad if it was occuring less.
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It really depends what you collect and how you do it. There are plenty of ways to obtain stuff at a good price without paying buckets for it, and then there are stories of amazing deals from luck/right place-right time situations.
Some people put their money in different places too, even when not well-off. If games are something that you want to use your spare money towards, it is possible.
As a digital-only early adopter, I'm just trying to help you physical people out. I'm preaching the good word, evangelizing the bits. There is literally zero good reasons to buy physically. Let me tell you three quick stories:
1.) I own the N64 classic Space Station Silicon Valley. There is a bug in the game where you can't collect all the collectibles in the first level and therefore you can't unlock a fun bonus mini game. If this was a digital game, the bug could be patched.
2.) My copy of Super Mario World 2 lost all its save data. I had to open the cartridge and replace the battery, not a trivial feat. A digital game would have a HDD save. A modern service would even have a cloud-backed save system.
3.) Stopping by Walmart to pick up a new game after work? I do not have time for that especially with rush hour traffic. Waiting for Amazon to deliver my package by 8:00 PM? No thanks. Queuing up a download from my phone at 6:00 AM and having the game installed and ready to go in the evening? Yes please!
So come over to the digital side ;)
1.) I own the N64 classic Space Station Silicon Valley. There is a bug in the game where you can't collect all the collectibles in the first level and therefore you can't unlock a fun bonus mini game. If this was a digital game, the bug could be patched.
2.) My copy of Super Mario World 2 lost all its save data. I had to open the cartridge and replace the battery, not a trivial feat. A digital game would have a HDD save. A modern service would even have a cloud-backed save system.
3.) Stopping by Walmart to pick up a new game after work? I do not have time for that especially with rush hour traffic. Waiting for Amazon to deliver my package by 8:00 PM? No thanks. Queuing up a download from my phone at 6:00 AM and having the game installed and ready to go in the evening? Yes please!
So come over to the digital side ;)
It's arguably worse because there's no lasting value to it at all, cant resell, return, gift. You are basically burning money.
Definitely didn't answer the question. These are popular things that people buy and you cant resell. And meals dont cost $30-60? Lol I wish I lived where you lived, i just paid $86 for a meal last night
I feel the most I tend to see related to this is people complaining that "company X" isn't doing a physical release of their game (usually Capcom), people get overly indignant about the situation, and then at least a few "get with the future." comments are made. The lack of a physical release for a game is a totally valid thing to complain about but sometimes some people in those threads need to take some deep breaths and maybe go on a walk or something.
I do not see posting pictures of your digital collection being any more of a financial flex as posting your digital Switch collection is a flex against people who live in rural America with poor internet (or hell, in my case I live outside of rural America and I did not have access to high speed for until only just recently).
This is really the only scenario where I've seen people get "pushy." Digital media owners will tout some of the inherent benefits of digital games, and then it quickly turns into an argument over "ownership" and the impermanence of the digital medium.
I actually think predicting the long-term positives and negatives of physical vs. digital to be quite interesting. I gave it a lot of thought at the beginning of this year, and it made me make some big changes in my game buying and collecting habits.
What a ridiculous thing to post. Price of meals vary greatly, just like the price of games.
Its even more ridiculous to compare sustenance to entertainment.
you can return and gift in almost all the main digital game stores.
Yes I'll buy the Blu ray or 4K disc instead of going to the cinema by myself or buying it digitally. Comparing to eating at a restaurant is just a stupid comparison.
You can't gift a game after you've registered it to your account.
User Warned: Ableist Language, please don't use 'retarded' as a pejorative term
The tone described by the OP in digital/physical threads definitely does exist.
Personally I find it weird because whilst console/platform fanboyism is completely retarded it's in part rooted in some ideas that make a small amount of sense.
In this case however people are getting worked up by the fact that other people like playing their games on a different kind of media.
The phrasing of the arguments additionally tends to exaggerate what are minor inconveniences of physical with the process of finding the case or game to play being a 'major hassle' that takes huge amounts of time or 'having heaps of plastic lying around' which isn't a problem for anyone with basic organisation skills.
Personally I find it weird because whilst console/platform fanboyism is completely retarded it's in part rooted in some ideas that make a small amount of sense.
In this case however people are getting worked up by the fact that other people like playing their games on a different kind of media.
The phrasing of the arguments additionally tends to exaggerate what are minor inconveniences of physical with the process of finding the case or game to play being a 'major hassle' that takes huge amounts of time or 'having heaps of plastic lying around' which isn't a problem for anyone with basic organisation skills.
lol you must be a fun time out / fun date
Ignoring the fact that many (many) (MANY) games are $0-30 ... you can get to the $30-60 range very easily at your non-Applebee's and non-Olive Garden restaurants. An entree, drink, tax, and tip at a solid restaurant will easily put you in that range.
If you're going out to a restaurant, it's no longer about sustenance. You can be entertained by a meal. You can be surprised and delighted by a meal. A great meal at a restaurant is an experience.
The "clutter" is always majorly exaggerated too. A lot of digital only people here seem to be under the impression that everyone has a massive stash of games but in reality most "collections" can be stored in a cupboard or small shelf.
Aside for this harsh truth, the thread has me confused because IF ANYTHING I've seen the opposite front ("physical-copy only for me!" "Fuck digital delivery" etc) being far more pushy around this board.
Lol movies are a popular business that continues to grow so many people don't feel the same as you. Also you're right, games have much more value to someone who does both regularly. I like buying digital and playing games but I cant enjoy any meal at a restaurant as much as I can enjoy a game. But I still like doing both and don't consider either burning money because I can't resell it.
I'm mostly physical but I dabble in digital. Lately I've been really wanting more accessibility on my Switch, to just open Mario Maker 2 and have a quick look at what's happening for example and then switch back to another game with ease.
But I'm worried about how things will pan out in the future, how will PS5 and Switch 2 handle backwards compatibility? What happens when games get pulled from e-stores?
But I'm worried about how things will pan out in the future, how will PS5 and Switch 2 handle backwards compatibility? What happens when games get pulled from e-stores?
That's why I said by myself. I'll go to the cinema with friends or family because at that point I'm just going as an outing. If I just want to watch the movie I'll just wait and buy it on disc.
The while mindset of food and the way it works is different, can't even compare it. The whole premise of how it's produced, priced and consumed is based on only being able to use it once.
Going to a restaurant is as much about sustenance these days as buying new clothes is about protecting yourself from the cold weather.
It's primarily a social outing. Or in other worlds entertainment.
With Gamestop going under soon (because lets face it they won't last the year). I do wonder how attractive physical will be going forward for people who relied on trade-ins. Like sure Ebay and Amazon exist and will let you sell your old games but there is a way bigger hurdle than just plunking some games down on a counter and instantly getting some credit going that route.
This thread really doesn't need the restaurant analogy, it makes no sense.
I bet the execs at EA/Ubisoft love seeing this. They can charge more, for a product that costs less and has no transferable license.
I bet the execs at EA/Ubisoft love seeing this. They can charge more, for a product that costs less and has no transferable license.
In every thread about some (digital) game being delisted for whatever reason or simply being missing from current digital platforms, it usually takes 3-4 posts before someone throws a "That's the digital future for you" in there, so it cuts both ways, I guess.
I do a mix of physical and digital with a great majority of it being the latter. They both have their perks, and I sincerely don't care which anyone prefers. The only major thing going for physical currently besides novelty is the resale/trade factor but I generally buy during sales and don't intend to sell. I did purge a bunch of my gen 6 games last year because they were taking up a lot of space not doing anything but I wasn't motivated by cash, mostly to declutter.
I still prefer buying physical on Switch because I like the form factor of the carts and cases, and Switch hasn't adopted the trend of the other two yet of making the disc little more than physical DRM, so there's some sense of value that I'm actually playing directly from the physical media instead of it being used as an inconvenient disc check.
But I can't buy into this "pushy digital-only people" narrative when you have the kneejerk "so much for the all digital future" reaction to something like a game being delisted or whatever.
I still prefer buying physical on Switch because I like the form factor of the carts and cases, and Switch hasn't adopted the trend of the other two yet of making the disc little more than physical DRM, so there's some sense of value that I'm actually playing directly from the physical media instead of it being used as an inconvenient disc check.
But I can't buy into this "pushy digital-only people" narrative when you have the kneejerk "so much for the all digital future" reaction to something like a game being delisted or whatever.
I can't even remember a time when I got an EA or Ubisoft game for more than $20 and I only get their stuff from Origin or Uplay. I don't think a physical market is what's having them snap their fingers in frustration from being able to jack prices.
As of late I actually do prefer digital as games take up so much space, especially for something i'll typically play once.
However, a lot of deals are still often Physical only (So many full-price KT games that are direct cheap physical) so I know i'll always be in that realm.
However, a lot of deals are still often Physical only (So many full-price KT games that are direct cheap physical) so I know i'll always be in that realm.
I'm 99% digital at this point going forward, but I don't really care how people buy their games. It's only when "physical only" act like the game is essentially cancelled because it's digital exclusive that irks me. You're just locking yourself out of a game you might really enjoy for some arbitrary reason, especially smaller games where a physical print wouldn't be feasible. But I hold my tongue because that response comes from the assumption that external factors would allow them to get digital, which I could be totally wrong on.
There were people here who pretty held physical as if it's a core of their resetera identity, much like some users do with 60fps, those were also kind of annoying sense it never really adds to the discussion, but I don't see the former as often now.
There were people here who pretty held physical as if it's a core of their resetera identity, much like some users do with 60fps, those were also kind of annoying sense it never really adds to the discussion, but I don't see the former as often now.
You gotta get out more, a great meal can be life changing especially when enjoying it with friends and family
I've gotten used to digital only because I play on PC. Kind of a bizarre topic since it's likely those who want to keep physical games alive are probably more prone to being more pushy. I haven't really met anyone who saysd they want physical games to go away.
Retrogaming discussion is so swamped in people pirating a million roms on a raspberry pi while gloating about not being some sort of nostalgia sick original hardware hoarder. I suppose the cost of a pi vs the cost of legitimate acquisition of games means it was bound to overshadow other discussion.
Collecting games or consoles or even just preferring not to use emulators is treated as some sort of illness or inability to grow up and the constant suggesstion/implication is that we should all just buy raspberry pis.
Collecting games or consoles or even just preferring not to use emulators is treated as some sort of illness or inability to grow up and the constant suggesstion/implication is that we should all just buy raspberry pis.
Physical is good for games you don't care to keep. Like I'll prob be picking up FF7 physical, playing it, and then trading it towards Nioh 2.
Yeah, I think this is probably a case of confirmation bias at work, OP -- if you prefer physical media, you might be more sensitive to comments that you perceive to be anti-physical media.
I'm a mostly digital media person (all digital when it comes to modern games), so I notice a lot more "where's the physical copy???," "I'll only buy it if it gets a physical release," "wish it had a physical release" type of posts than anyone pushing other people to go digital. So that's probably my confirmation bias at work.
But if I'm being as objective as possible, I don't really see anyone shitting on anyone else because of format choices in any significant way. Just people expressing their preferences, which is fine.
I'm a mostly digital media person (all digital when it comes to modern games), so I notice a lot more "where's the physical copy???," "I'll only buy it if it gets a physical release," "wish it had a physical release" type of posts than anyone pushing other people to go digital. So that's probably my confirmation bias at work.
But if I'm being as objective as possible, I don't really see anyone shitting on anyone else because of format choices in any significant way. Just people expressing their preferences, which is fine.
My only issue with physical games in 2020 is that, maybe outside of Nintendo games, they're incomplete unless connected to the internet. Like, in all honesty, we're pretty close to "physical" games becoming just a key card in a box, and I don't look forward to that future...but it's coming.
Just go digital OP, what's wrong with you
Yup the disc is becoming a key code with only difference that this key code isn't bound to your account but you can take it out, give it to a friend etc.
please keep in mind that the vast majority don't care at all and think everyone should just do what they prefer according to their situation, we just don't have any reason to speak up to make this point, you do you