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Digital Foundry: Xbox Next-Gen Features You Can Try Today: 120Hz/ VRR on Xbox One... What Do They Actually Do?
- Thread starter chandoog
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Just realized the Series X promo talks about Resolutions and Framerates we have never seen before....Like ever.
120Hz isnt even considered hyper fast these days.
4K is old news.
But yeah 120Hz makes alot of sense, i imagine the Series X will support 120 and 144.
With VRR being baked into the system will make gaming so much smoother when games fail to meet that 60fps target.
120Hz isnt even considered hyper fast these days.
4K is old news.
But yeah 120Hz makes alot of sense, i imagine the Series X will support 120 and 144.
With VRR being baked into the system will make gaming so much smoother when games fail to meet that 60fps target.
I own a C9 would running BFV in 120Hz give me a smoother experience online? I guess I'll try it. I do believe Gears 5 and The Division 2 supports VRR.
Alex needs to do a voice over whenever one of his friends and colleagues say "WulvenStain" XD
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The PS3 had a game that ran at 720p 120fps.
for Super Stardust's 3D mode. 😁 "Crazy" Ken almost came through with his 1080p 120fps!!!!! prediction.
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Aren't DF like MS's best friend when it comes to giving them info for anything Xbox ? I thought MS go to them for technical announcements. I sense biasism with Xbox consoles generally with DF now. This seems like another of those articles but it's still good to know I guess about the future of different displays.
like they could just as easily make this video using PC too ages ago
like they could just as easily make this video using PC too ages ago
how is this relevant to a technical break down? They aren't even really comparing other platforms
Well it's easy to talk about a console that is being hyped right now with details constantly emerging. It happens with any new console
This is ridiculous, you're calling out journalists as biased because they're not overly negative? You're ignoring their recent video about their concerns about the cross gen approach? That's a really serious accusation to make, man.
Apparently this is a video about future capabilities of the PS5 too. The Xbox One S/X are just the only consoles that let you try out those features on current gen consoles with VRR and 120Hz combined over HDMI with TVs that support it.
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I remember a bunch of threads about it, but they were small and disappeared pretty fast. I feel the "I didn't know the Xbox One had X" is going to be the consoles legacy. So many great features, systems, services, can't fix the PR disaster that was the launch.
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I'm not sure if it is doable now(playing an unpatched version of Terrorist Hunt), but before the X patch for Rainbow Six Siege released the game could hit ~120fps on the X.
To quote myself from back then and doing my own tests:
I'm not sure if it is doable now(playing an unpatched version of Terrorist Hunt), but before the X patch for Rainbow Six Siege released the game could hit ~120fps on the X.
To quote myself from back then and doing my own tests:
So it's pretty standard to get frame rate readings on PC but can you do frame times too somehow? I know some games like Doom, Gears have all sorts of metrics you can display but is there a universal one? I suppose RTSS is going to be the answer but for the life of me I can't get that working right.
The reason I ask is seeing the frame time graph for Wolfenstein II in this video and it's up and down like a yoyo. The gameplay in the video looks smooth but it mustn't feel smooth to play?
The reason I ask is seeing the frame time graph for Wolfenstein II in this video and it's up and down like a yoyo. The gameplay in the video looks smooth but it mustn't feel smooth to play?
But that's not actually 120fps displayed on to your screen. PS4 has a few games that natively runs at 120fps on the PSVR headset. And actually all PSVR 60fps games run at 120fps after the reprojection. (60fps native reprojected to 120fps to the headset).
I don't remember them making an article about that. Actually I don't remember them doing many VR articles, but that's another subject.
We have joked about this in the past
I think it was unlock with full tearing, but was it also not 60 hz unlocked even on a 120hz Display?
So sadly even 120hz output would not venefit it mich at all?
The internal framerate count er would say above 60 numbers but the rate would chop at 60.
I just gotta learn to laugh at this nonsense. What a joke.
That would be hilarious, I agree. Very tempting...
Based on youtube comments, which are obviously completely true, your life as a simultaneous Microsoft fanboy, Sony fanboy, Nintendo fanboy and a PC fanboy must be exhausting, lol.
It is indeed! Hard to fanboy for every single platform but it must be done!
Seriously tiring to see good journalism being targeted with such insecure nonsense.
Funny thing is that it's basically a bug in rainbow 6 , as if you leave the game with vsync on, it actually caps the framerate at 30fps.
I leave my console set at 1440p 120hz all the time for games like Siege, a game with a 4K flag automatically switches back to 60hz.
It would be interesting to see the cap removed from some older games, I know of games that have enforced a 30fps as they are nervous of the framerate graphs that DF produce and the impact that will have on marketing.
I don't *think* the Xbox actually engages VRR when set to 120hz.
It certainly didn't when I had the Samsung (but that may have been that TV) and it's bit harder to see on the LG, , but I should check again
The best example I've seen from a game is COD MW, which does tear and drop frames on Xbox, but with VRR enabled you get perceptually flawless performance
I leave my console set at 1440p 120hz all the time for games like Siege, a game with a 4K flag automatically switches back to 60hz.
It would be interesting to see the cap removed from some older games, I know of games that have enforced a 30fps as they are nervous of the framerate graphs that DF produce and the impact that will have on marketing.
I don't *think* the Xbox actually engages VRR when set to 120hz.
It certainly didn't when I had the Samsung (but that may have been that TV) and it's bit harder to see on the LG, , but I should check again
The best example I've seen from a game is COD MW, which does tear and drop frames on Xbox, but with VRR enabled you get perceptually flawless performance
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yeah, but in the end everyone else has a better use for it.
i would like to try out all those new/unused features of the xbx, but there is actually nothing you can try it out on.
i really hope, the next xbox will give us greater options.
Given the ever greater graphical fidelity that newer games tend to chase, I don't really see how we'll ever have a real need for refresh rates above 160hz, unless you're on a pc and very willing to sacrifice detail for speed.
I wouldn't take any offence to it, they clearly have no idea what the hell they are talking about.
What will we do once consoles obtain HDMI 2.1.
4K w/VRR & HDR is sort of the endgame, everything after that is just diminishing returns to the extreme.
Sure we can go to 8K which in returns means that we all have to increase our TV's to 80" and beyond to have the benefit.
But in reality only VR w/foveated rendering can take us truly to the next level at that point in terms of visual experience.
'Higher quality pixels' aka better graphics (not resolution) & maxing out the common framerate towards 120hz is the next long-term game for flat-monitor gaming. You are more likely to see all of that happening faster in VR though since foveated rendering will deliver 10-20x the GPU resources.
4K w/VRR & HDR is sort of the endgame, everything after that is just diminishing returns to the extreme.
Sure we can go to 8K which in returns means that we all have to increase our TV's to 80" and beyond to have the benefit.
But in reality only VR w/foveated rendering can take us truly to the next level at that point in terms of visual experience.
'Higher quality pixels' aka better graphics (not resolution) & maxing out the common framerate towards 120hz is the next long-term game for flat-monitor gaming. You are more likely to see all of that happening faster in VR though since foveated rendering will deliver 10-20x the GPU resources.
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I kinda doubt either 4k or 120hz gaming (not even considering 144 and up) are really as common as you're making it out to be.
I was pointing out the promo talking about 4K and 120Hz like gamers had never ever seen such a thing....someone pointed out they were likely talking about on console....but even then 4K has been done on console and Rainbow Six Siege could hit high refresh rates on some maps on Xbox One X with Vsync off. Im sure there are other games which have no hard Vsync that could likely hit those framerates on X.
PCs have been doing both forever.
And legit 120fps isnt all that special anymore.....finding 120Hz monitors is actually rare these days.
Im upping this thread. Just got a c9. I don't feel any difference. What should I set it ?
