I have no idea how microsoft plans to support the base xbox one with their games for the next 2 years. Goin all the way down to 684p is crazy.
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Digital Foundry: Watch Dogs Legion: PS4/ Pro/ Xbox One/ One X Tested - Should You Wait For Next-Gen?
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Good thing I made a decision to wait for next gen consoles to play these new games.
Gives me time to work on my backlog for now which I've been going through quite a bit.
Gives me time to work on my backlog for now which I've been going through quite a bit.
Thing is.... the game doesn't look good on PS4 Pro.
I'm playing for the past 4 hours and... image quality is all over the place. The reconstruction technique used here is too aggressive and add dithering to all surfaces plus the regular dithering on the transparency and screen space reflections.
Not to mention the shadows.... also a dithering fest. The beard faces also dither as hell.
They should have called Watch Dogs Dithering instead of Legion.
Seriously.... despite the massive downgrade... I ended up liking the end result of Watch Dogs 1 and found Watch Dogs 2 to be a gorgeous showcase for the PS4 Pro in launch.
I can't recommend to anyone the graphical achievement in this installment.
I'm playing because I visited London back in December and there are a lot of places that I went to a terrible memory trip. Was traveling the new years eve with my ex-girlfriend. LOL
Shooting feels much better than any other tittle.
I'm playing for the past 4 hours and... image quality is all over the place. The reconstruction technique used here is too aggressive and add dithering to all surfaces plus the regular dithering on the transparency and screen space reflections.
Not to mention the shadows.... also a dithering fest. The beard faces also dither as hell.
They should have called Watch Dogs Dithering instead of Legion.
Seriously.... despite the massive downgrade... I ended up liking the end result of Watch Dogs 1 and found Watch Dogs 2 to be a gorgeous showcase for the PS4 Pro in launch.
I can't recommend to anyone the graphical achievement in this installment.
I'm playing because I visited London back in December and there are a lot of places that I went to a terrible memory trip. Was traveling the new years eve with my ex-girlfriend. LOL
Shooting feels much better than any other tittle.
I played about two hours on XBX last night and decided to wait for XSX. It ran good enough but I would rather wait for the best experience. I only picked it up day one because I got $20 back from gamestop for paying it off and preordering it.
The video shown yesterday running on Series X is miles ahead any version shown in this vid, definitely wait for next gen.
i forgot that screen tearing even existed until i played this on Xbox One X. I hadn't seen it since the PS3 days.
So far this means all watch dogs games are better on Playstation than Xbox. I wanted to get Legion for playstation. But im not sure if i'll be able to snag a PS5 or not. But i know i will get the Series X.
So far this means all watch dogs games are better on Playstation than Xbox. I wanted to get Legion for playstation. But im not sure if i'll be able to snag a PS5 or not. But i know i will get the Series X.
I think that even if they could drop the base PS4/XB1 versions they would end up not doing so, because a good chunk of their sales (if not the majority) will come from these systems.
I'm more worried about the crashes and glitches commented in the video than the graphics quality
I wonder if the series S will have similar performance/fate compared to PS5 and series X when the latter two consoles are being pushed at 1440p in certain games in the future.
Yeah, DF don't normally call out glitches but the sheer volume of problems across platforms seems to have forced their hand.
Nice video, liked the quick look back at Watch Dogs 1, 2 and the original e3 2012 reveal.
Some of ya'll are overreacting at the performance of an open world game at it's scale/scope, density, and graphical detail and effects releasing on 2013 base consoles weeks away from next gen relative to the same type of game releasing on last gen right around current gen was close to releasing. Did ya'll forget how GTA V performed on 360/PS3?
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Avengers goes down to 540p on the One S.
I wonder how far Cyberpunk will drop.
At least GTAV looked good though. Watch dogs looks bad and runs just as bad on xbox one.
To be fair its now 1 year left. But so far i believe only Halo Infinite is releasing on xbox one still. Pure from first party.
Yeah, I am reading that people with a 3090 cant run this at native 4k/60fps. Game seems like a resource hog where even a $1500 GPU can't handle it at full 4k/60fps and that is WITHOUT Ray Tracing. Turn RT on and it drops like a rock in performance. So that report of it running at 1440p/30fps w/RT on Series X is kind of a shock to me being that the games engine is a resource hog.
Did you watch the video? Do you find the xbox one footage pleasing to look at? The hardware is clearly holding the game back.
Ubisoft should have capped the resolution to 1440p on Xbox One X to mitigate the some of the problems.
I hope they at least put a max resolution of 1080p on x1 so that it scales to that on XSS until the patch arrives.
This is what's odd to me. Why push higher resolution if your don't have to?
Maybe marketing? I think the One X was more pushed as a "4k console".
it's not even just the framerate, did you actually look at the X1 footage..? It looks borderline unplayable while driving, incredibly bad IQ. In fact, I'd wager that WD2 simply looks better on X1.
It still looks good for an open world game at it's scale/scope, density with it's graphical detail and effects running on the lowest powered 7 year old current gen console that's about to be usurped by next gen.
In no context on it's own does Watch Dogs Legion "looks bad" on Xbox One. It only "looks bad" in the context of comparisons to other consoles.
Anybody playing games on the base Xbox One right now understand that and have accepted this.
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Yes, I watched it and think some of ya'll are being way too hyperbolic when making general statements that only apply to hardcore, which to be fair I should expect on an enthusiast board.
I would hope that they would, even if the One S never even gets close. I can't imagine the next-gen patch is gonna be seen until mid-2021 at best.
They really should, all games should that release now where a patch for next gen is not planned or months away. Perhaps even an unlocked fps mode.
The base Xbox One version is imo unacceptable like this. Awful image quality, constant frame drops, constant screen tearing and the bugs/glitches mentioned in the video. As long as they expect base Xbox One users to pay the same amount for their game version as from users on other platforms, they have to make that base Xbox One version look and perform at least adequately, which this is imo not.
Welcome to PS3/360 end of life. If shit keeps getting ported to these base systems, sacrifices will have to be made. If you are still rocking a base Xbox One, I can't imagine image quality is on your list of priorities.
The thing is, this game isn't really the one to sound the base console death knell, considering even PCs are having issues. And PS4 base has been fine up through Tsushima. But now we are likely at the beginning of sacrifices to fit on a platform.
Valhalla, cyberpunk, miles, yakuza, etc. will chip in to the prognosis. Nba2k has already shown that a different experience awaits on the new consoles, which isn't quite a performance death but an experiential retirement.
Valhalla, cyberpunk, miles, yakuza, etc. will chip in to the prognosis. Nba2k has already shown that a different experience awaits on the new consoles, which isn't quite a performance death but an experiential retirement.
Also this. PS3 GTAV was an absolute performance shitshow and I managed to enjoy it just fine.
I picked up on One X yesterday and think it looks pretty nice so far. Wasn't going to play much though, saving it for the arrival of One X.
It seems more a game designed for next gen, the loading sequences being the giveaway. I suspect they will be hardly noticed with new hardware, but get in the way on current gen.
It seems more a game designed for next gen, the loading sequences being the giveaway. I suspect they will be hardly noticed with new hardware, but get in the way on current gen.
Feels like having to optimize the game for 9 different machines is hurting the development of these crossgen games. Resources must be spread thin .This game also has a ton of bugs on top. Dirt 5 is another game that looks rough.
That is on Ubisoft though and not the fault of base Xbox One owners. If Ubisoft decides to bring the game to that console they have to make it run at least adequately, especially for the high price they demand on release.
It all depends around what specs the games are designed for. Ghosts what designed around the PS4 and I can't imagine Miles being anything but great on the PS4 with its design rooted in a PS4 exclusive. Yakuza is definitely designed around this gen too. Valhalla might be interesting and obviously Cyberpunk is having problems. I think Watch Dogs whether people believe it is our first next-gen leaning game.
People love the console war nitpick circus. Shouts of "literally unplayable 30fps" and the like. Arguing over figures they wouldn't have noticed for themselves unless armed with DF graphs.
Thank fuck we didn't have the internet during the ZX Spectrum v C64 playground wars of my youth.
I suspect like the Twitter culture wars these fights over resolution and framerate mean nothing to the average videogame consumer, who get on with enjoying their games. Meanwhile we "hardcore" all sit here together in our own shit, excreting more every minute.