Was literally just about to buy the entire trilogy on Switch. Guess I'll grab 3 and wait on 1 and 2 for any potential patch.
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Digital Foundry: The NEW Doom Trilogy Console Ports: There's Good News And Bad News
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Still available via Amazon --
Doom: https://www.amazon.com/Doom-Xbox-One-Digital-Code/dp/B075QZS3LQ/
Doom 2: https://www.amazon.com/Doom-II-Xbox-Digital-Code/dp/B075QW2Y2Z/
Full fat Doom 3 running 60 FPS on a portable console is madness.
Doom 1 and 2 being a bit butchered is also madness.
Doom 1 and 2 being a bit butchered is also madness.
Yeah this period was golden age of PC gaming for us at home. We were huge into Unreal but 2003 disappointed us while 2004 was good. I couldn't wait for HL2, FC and Doom. I played the leaks of HL2 and Doom 3 to death. We bought a Geforce FX, threw up and returned it for a Radeon 9800 PRO (which is my fave card ever since it held out for so long in an era were graphics advanced rapidly) and FC was holy shit. Then Doom came out and was holy shit. And then HL2 bettered them both imo. This was kind of a bummer for Doom, I was more impressed by HL2 back in the day.
But upon replays I prefer Doom 3 to HL2. The latter has some very bad pacing issues with vehicle sections, and the AI and gunplay was even worse than I remembered. Doom 3 held up better imo.
I was going to when I got home, should've known you'd touch on it.
Heck, I'd put the PS3 ports above the XBLA ones (not that the XBLA ones are bad).
They have issues, but I think they're still good on Switch if you want portable versions. I mean, the last official portable versions were on GBA, so even an imperfect port is an upgrade.
I bought a GeForce FX 5700 Ultra with 256MB of DDR3 back in 2005, I think. I remember buying it over a Geforce 6800 because of the lower price difference. The fan on the 5700 was loud, and that card crapped out on me within months. It was under warranty though, and I did later swap it for a Geforce 6800 XT, which was a lower clocked 6800. The 6XXX series was a huge improvement in general over the mangled FX series.
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It seems to be multiple things, mainly the original 35fps but Nerve busted the graphics, audio etc.
The FX line was shit, at least initially it was. It was quite shocking, our GF4 Ti4200 (OC'd) ran better. We refunded it almost straight away.
6 line was good. 7 was shit I think, it lacked HDR+AA I think, PS3 also suffered from this.
The Radeon 9800 Pro was a beast for years, and I bailed on PC gaming right around the time I couldn't play new games well with it.
They have an excuse. They can't simply port the original game, what are you thinking? They have to get the forced online website connection into the game somehow. 😛
PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO THIS. Probably the best time I've had with my Rift so far. The Oculus Touch controller support is brilliant.
Will get Doom 3 for sure but for now I will stick with the XBLA version of Doom that thankfully I kept installed on my Xbox X.
Far Cry aged the absolute worst of the three. Doom 3 will always have a nice looking feel because of the refined industrial look for which the engine was made for and its lightning and shadows. Half Life 2 has this realistic looking soft image, its amazing how well it looks especially updated with Episode 2 version of the engine.
Far Cry looks pretty ridiculous if you look at it now. That crude green and abrupt colours are to its detriment. And how impossibly amazing it looked back then
The 7XXX series wasn't really shit. It was an iteration of the 6XXX series. A bit of an underwhelming release, but I don't remeber any criticisms over this line. I think the evolution of videocards at the time just made this series look outdated rather quickly. As did the the 6800 series, even though I did get many years out of my 6800 XT, it was a great card even though it was on the lower end of the 6800's. Ofcourse the 8xxx GeForce cards are legendary.
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The big 4 back in the day were:
HL2
Doom 3
Far Cry
FEAR
I'd be curious to do a side by side today. I haven't seen FEAR in ages.
Doom 3 was certainly the most impressive. I remember downloading the tech demo leak, I think it was in 2003. It ran like shit but visually it blew my mind.
HL2
Doom 3
Far Cry
FEAR
I'd be curious to do a side by side today. I haven't seen FEAR in ages.
Doom 3 was certainly the most impressive. I remember downloading the tech demo leak, I think it was in 2003. It ran like shit but visually it blew my mind.
Half-Life 2, Doom 3 and Far Cry all were released months apart in 2004. FEAR was released in 2005.
FEAR is still a looker too. It was also the first game I have ever played to have realized full-body-awareness. basically the first time I could see the main protagonists body when I look down (though, there were other FPS games that did this before FEAR). Also the game was touted for its AI.
And Quake 4 came out in 2005 as well. That is another id Tech 4 game. Quake 4 is actually a good FPS too. But it is one that nobody ever really talks about.
Also, Prey was released in 2006 (I made a mistake and said 2005, forgot what year this came out in) as well, and also used ID Tech 4. Prey was also another great looking PC FPS. It made good use of IDTech 4. Human Head/ 3D Realms Prey could make for an interesting DF Retro. The Prey series in general has such a weird development history.
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I can't believe I'm asking this, but would the freesync in XB1X remedy the bad feeling of the 35 frames per second in Doom?
FEAR still has the best Ai i have seen in a shooter. yeah it's heavily scripted but it plays out great.
If anybody is curious about the inner workings of the original Doom, might I recommend this book.
It goes into exhaustive detail about how the game works and how the magical combination of technology at the time led to the game we all know and love.
It goes into exhaustive detail about how the game works and how the magical combination of technology at the time led to the game we all know and love.
It was never 70fps. Doom was always capped at 35fps.
The article is saying that a solid 35fps doesn't sit as well on a 60hz display as it did the 70hz monitors that were commonplace in 1993.
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35fps was the game's hard-coded simulation tick rate. All of their AI/Physics was tied to this. In-game recordings are also tied to this tick rate, which allows you to play back replays on any machine regardless of framerate.
Most modern ports though will interpolate the visual framerate to whatever you want.
Yes, this book is incredible. Definitely a must read if you have an interest in how Doom works.
Yeah, bought 1 and 2 for the Switch prior to this vid and noticed somethings were off. Hope they get patched. 3 on X is a good port indeed.
So DOOM 3 is an incredible port all around and DOOM and DOOM 2 got royally fucked. In the end, I only paid $20 for it all so I think I'm alright.
3 on my pcs always ran finicky. Looks like any of the new console versions would be an improvement. Disappointing about I and II.