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Digital Foundry: The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening Switch Remake - Absolutely Unmissable
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What's crazy to me is that you guys have been accused of being biased for/against each console now. It's ridiculous. People need to get a grip.
Yeah - depending on the video, time of year or air humidity people accuse us of bias for one thing or the other. Perhaps we are in fact biased for and against everything!!!
I definitely remember when the general sentiment seemed to be that they're pro-xbox, then that they were pro playstation a year or two into the gen.
It must be exhausting being biased towards everyone all at once!
<You are Shills/Haters>
<We know you Adore/Despise certain companies>
<You can't hide your Pro/Anti sentiments toward Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft from us>
<Good job/How dare you, Dictator/Director>
hahahah
this is amazing, thanks you :D
(still have to beat control).
I'm not sure if it's bias but the lens at which they view Switch games from can seem to be a bit less critical because of the nature of the platform. People on here do it all the time. I've seen the words, "But it's a portable" be used as a defense often when a game doesn't perform well. And when a game does perform well, then it's "Amazing for a portable". I'd like that to be removed from the conversation and let the analysis be about the game on its own merits and whether it actually runs well regardless of the platform it's on.
Honest question...do you really think that's a helpful statement? Especially as we have DF staff who go on here and have heard accusations of bias every which way countless times :/
It's so easy to see a trend of bias if you look for it with these things. I think it's pretty clear that the reality paints to them analysing ports on their own terms, often with a positive yet critical approach.
If it ever seems they're going soft on Switch stuff, I think it's safe to say that's due to taking the hardware into account, the appeal of modern games on a handheld and also varying user sensitivity to performance and such. Even then, they were still very critical of the Saints Row 3 port, while acknowleding what a difficult porting task it must've been
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Thank you guys for the great analyses you put out!
And definitely finish Control. It's an incredible game (as you already know :P), I got sucked into it for about 25-30 straight hours. I think I 100%'d it, what a wild ride. Can't wait for the DLC episodes. Especially that second one, hoo baby I might be able to stop hanging from this cliff after a decade!
I absolutely adore the game and how it looks, but I am a bit shocked about how it runs. I normally don't care much about drops or 30 fps, but for instance when I get in the flower swamp - is it really still 30 fps? It feels so much worse for whatever reason
You're not disappointing me, especially not you. I just thought some of John's videos sound a bit over-enthusiast when it comes to Nintendo. Just my subjective impressions though. No offense, I'm one of your subscribers and you're doing an extraordinary job!
Yes I think this explains it pretty well.
Framerate is a bit of a letdown but I cant name a single Zelda game with a steady framerate either.
Yes, doesn't mean it can't display 1080p image via downsampling. I can see jaggies disappear and image get sharper in real time, its uncanny.
1080p games look so messy on modern TVs, let alone 720p ones. It looks dreadful, pretty much like every Switch game on big modern TVs.
Everyone knows you're a PC master race elitist, Alex. This Switch talk is absurd, lol.
Joking aside, you and John are the best and your content is always an immediate watch. I don't even play on PC but I watch your videos just for the education.
? I've got a Sony x900e and 1080p games look fine, not sure what you mean by messy. Sure higher resolution+HDR games look even better but 1080p stuff is fine.
It's good timing that John took a forum break I think because he'd be fucking exhausted and burnt out to explain everything Dictator did here.
People here jumping through hoops to accuse DF of being biased is pretty embarassing and a bad look on this community, like, get a fucking grip with your framerate, yes it's not perfect but it's not the hyperbolic sickening mess some people make it out to be and it doesn't make reviewers, news outlets and analysts biased toward Nintendo because they don't share your gag reflex for framerate drops.
It's always this shit in DF threads, yes, performance is important and it's part of the discussion, of course, but when you're reaching so far to the point where you're accusing the analyst himself. Perhaps it's time to re-read your post before hitting that big purple 'POST REPLY' button.
Those are actual passionate human beings doing meaningful work for this community and I'm fucking ashamed that some people here are pathetically stepping over this fact to slip edgy, baseless conspiracy theory inspired posts to justify their petty, sheer disgust over an unstable framerate. You're hurting people with this shit.
People here jumping through hoops to accuse DF of being biased is pretty embarassing and a bad look on this community, like, get a fucking grip with your framerate, yes it's not perfect but it's not the hyperbolic sickening mess some people make it out to be and it doesn't make reviewers, news outlets and analysts biased toward Nintendo because they don't share your gag reflex for framerate drops.
It's always this shit in DF threads, yes, performance is important and it's part of the discussion, of course, but when you're reaching so far to the point where you're accusing the analyst himself. Perhaps it's time to re-read your post before hitting that big purple 'POST REPLY' button.
Those are actual passionate human beings doing meaningful work for this community and I'm fucking ashamed that some people here are pathetically stepping over this fact to slip edgy, baseless conspiracy theory inspired posts to justify their petty, sheer disgust over an unstable framerate. You're hurting people with this shit.
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This is literally untrue or your TV sucks. Have you made sure it isn't doing overscanning or non-integer scaling? Perhaps your settings need revisting.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder I suppose, but I play 1080p games and my Switch on a 4k set and I'd never call it dreadful. They still look great even if some the image quality isn't perfect. Link's Awakening is no exception. It looks wonderful on my TV.
The larger the subpixels the worse the image. A 1080p image on a 4K set looks better than a 1080p image on a 1080p set of the same size. The chromatic aberration look of large subpixels can even be manipulated to create fonts that are one pixel wide.
https://imgur.com/12ntm3G
Given the option of having each 1080p pixel be made of three subpixes, or twelve (as one gets on a 4K display), you want the latter unless somebody fucked up designing the set.
If 1080p looks worse on a 4K set than a 1080p set of the same size look for non integer scaling (overscan is one thing that can cause this). A test pattern of alternating black and white lines will look rippled, like one of these four examples, or worse, a combination of a couple of these examples:
By the way, this distortion makes aliasing even more noticeable than usual.
Now, 720p, don't even get me started, because 720p flat panels didn't even exist. 1280x720p was non-integer scaled to either 1366x768p or 1024x768p. Or non integer scaled to 1920x1080p. So yeah, even *better* to display on a 4K set where the image can at least be integer scaled.