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kierwynn

Community Resettler
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Oct 25, 2017
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Can you please stop derailing this thread please. There's already a thread to discuss the THQ situation, let's focus on the game here.

According to the official statement by moderation, its absolutely okay to bring it up in threads relevant to the publisher, so no one is doing anything wrong.

I think it's the "shitty game" part that's riling people up, because even if the 8ch thing hadn't happened, that poster apparently still wouldn't have had any interest in this release.

That's fair. I read it more as being inflammatory due to the issue, but I can see how it could be seen the other way as well.
 

Kiraly

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Oct 30, 2017
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Lol if you want to say you want to support a publisher like THQN just say it, instead of leaving your garbage posts. Sorry (not sorry) my statement hurt your feelings.

Jesus fucking christ dude, you said it yourself it's a shitty game implying you had no interest in it whatsoever anyhow and now you go on and accuse other members of explicitly supporting THQ when you get replies to it. How very virtuous of you.
 

kierwynn

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Oct 25, 2017
197
Yup. Specially with the last sentence of the staff message.

Please do not throw around highly inflammatory accusations or insults at your fellow members. Thank you.

Sorry, while I did address that the statement was in fact inflammatory previously, I was wrong when I said no one was doing anything wrong. I meant to say no one was doing anything wrong by bringing it up. Because yeah, purposefully inflammatory statements are not helpful for anyone.
 

Disclaimer

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Oct 25, 2017
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That didn't include shaming people for wanting to buy the game as is happening with some of the posts here.

Most people aren't doing that, and my post wasn't relevant to that behavior, as I was responding to someone who wanted all THQ discussion cordoned off to the scandal-specific threads — which isn't acceptable.
 

goldenpp73

Banned
Dec 5, 2017
2,144
So what is this series, exactly? This one really flew under my radar as I hadn't even heard of it (or barely noticed it) until I started seeing some "hidden gem" kind of discussions taking place on Era.

What are some of the things about this game that have people calling it a "gem"? Would this be a good fit for the Switch?

It's not a better fit on Switch than anything else really. It's a rough gem if it's a gem, it's basically a mix of Zelda and God of War with a dash of its own personality. The story is interesting, it's a well made game where everything is good to great, but none of it reaches the heights of other genres. I would say a lot of the games hype came from its ending which never got capitalized on at this point.

I think it's worth playing only if you can go back to 'mid grade' 360 generation games. I quite enjoyed it myself. I will say to at least power through a couple hours as the opening didn't do much for me, but it finds itself.
 
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b-dubs

That's some catch, that catch-22
General Manager
Oct 25, 2017
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Official Staff Communication
While you are all welcome to take a stance on the THQ Nordic situation and raise the subject in related threads such as these, please do not throw around highly inflammatory accusations or insults at your fellow members.
 

Brutalitops

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Dec 6, 2017
1,251
Wow I'm always up for supporting high quality Switch ports. Looks very inpressive, definite buy.

Wouldn't have even known it existed if it wasn't for this thread, I was so blank on this port! But that video looked nice
 

Jom

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Oct 25, 2017
3,490
Jesus fucking christ dude, you said it yourself it's a shitty game implying you had no interest in it whatsoever anyhow and now you go on and accuse other members of explicitly supporting THQ when you get replies to it. How very virtuous of you.
Buying the game is literally supporting the publisher. I'm not saying that they support THQ's shit about child porn and all that. I would assume most if not all people here don't support THAT.

Since everyone here in this thread should know already about THQN's transgressions, I would assume that the people who are still picking up the game can separate the two, the game and its publisher. That's fine. I can't. THQN is shitty and I think the Darksiders series is shitty as well.

There are literally tens of post from people here who are saying they are looking forward to picking up the game and that's fine. I'm saying if those two people who responded to me wanted to say that, they should just go ahead and say that.
 

Kyuuji

The Favonius Fox
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Nov 8, 2017
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Consider that by supporting this game, you are supporting a publisher that is complicit with child pornography.
no, not really. you are just buying a freaking game that has nothing to do with those things
Yes, really. By buying the game you're supporting the publisher.

Trying to disagree with that statement is absurd. If you don't mind supporting THQ Nordic that's your choice and you're free to buy and enjoy the game, but you can't somehow deny that you're supporting the publisher by doing so.
 

Wander_

Banned
Feb 26, 2018
5,552
Yes, really. By buying the game you're supporting the publisher.

Trying to disagree with that statement is absurd. If you don't mind supporting THQ Nordic that's your choice and you're free to buy and enjoy the game, but you can't somehow deny that you're supporting the publisher by doing so.

technically, yes. but that's not what I think when I buy something. just because one person in thq nordic was posting in that site doesn't mean I'm supporting his ideas

also:

This letter is to offer my sincerest apologies and regret for THQ Nordic GmbH Vienna's interaction with the controversial website 8chan last Tuesday, February 26. I condemn all unethical content this website stands for. Even if no one within the THQ Nordic Group would ever endorse such content, I realize simply appearing there gave an implicit impression that we did.

As Co-Founder and Group CEO of THQ Nordic AB, I take full responsibility for all of THQ Nordic GmbH's actions and communications. I have spent the past several days conducting an internal investigation into this matter. I assure you that every member of the organization has learned from this past week's events. I take this matter very seriously and we will take appropriate action to make sure we have the right policies and systems in place to avoid similar mistakes in the future.

As a Swedish based, fast growing group, we firmly support equality and diversity. We are also working actively to combat discrimination, harassment, and misconduct. We are already in the process of developing new work processes, based on the United Nations' SDGs (Sustainable Development Goals) and using the GRI (Global Reporting Initiative) standards, and we will accelerate this work going forward.

Lars Wingefors

Co-founder and Group-CEO, THQ Nordic AB
 

Disclaimer

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Yes, we're all aware of that statement, as well as Brock's via Twitter. They're both demonstrably full of lies and downplaying. There was no "implicit impression [of endorsement]" needed for Brock or Pollice's actions in the AMA — they were both explicitly knowledgeable of the site's contents and enthusiastic in their engagement during the AMA, with Pollice talking about how a homophobic slurring meme "could be from our next game!"
 
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technically, yes. but that's not what I think when I buy something. just because one person in thq nordic was posting in that site doesn't mean I'm supporting his ideas

also:

This letter is to offer my sincerest apologies and regret for THQ Nordic GmbH Vienna's interaction with the controversial website 8chan last Tuesday, February 26. I condemn all unethical content this website stands for. Even if no one within the THQ Nordic Group would ever endorse such content, I realize simply appearing there gave an implicit impression that we did.

As Co-Founder and Group CEO of THQ Nordic AB, I take full responsibility for all of THQ Nordic GmbH's actions and communications. I have spent the past several days conducting an internal investigation into this matter. I assure you that every member of the organization has learned from this past week's events. I take this matter very seriously and we will take appropriate action to make sure we have the right policies and systems in place to avoid similar mistakes in the future.

As a Swedish based, fast growing group, we firmly support equality and diversity. We are also working actively to combat discrimination, harassment, and misconduct. We are already in the process of developing new work processes, based on the United Nations' SDGs (Sustainable Development Goals) and using the GRI (Global Reporting Initiative) standards, and we will accelerate this work going forward.

Lars Wingefors

Co-founder and Group-CEO, THQ Nordic AB

Okay, reading this apology again, I can connect some things by the wording:

- Lars is apologizing for the company's interaction with the site. That's good.
- Lars is taking full responsibility for their actions and interactions (presumably referring to the actual employee interactions with the folks there), that is also good.
- Giving them the benefit of the doubt about the laws regarding whether they are actually allowed to fire the employees, saying they learned their lesson is hard to take in some ways. I believe the founder himself has, but you can't exactly just say "eh, it happens!" to said employees, that was a colossal fuck up to say the least.
- The bits about developing new work processes based on the UN's SDGs and using the GRI doesn't speak to me super clearly, more because I don't know what those are if I'm honest. As suggested earlier, I'd have much rather seen immediate actions such as donating a LOT of money to relevant charities (and boy do they have money to spare since they seemingly have it lying around to snap up companies and IPs left and right).

It's one start, but more needs to be done. These are at the very least just words though, which because of the gravity of the incident, isn't enough.
 

Kyuuji

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Nov 8, 2017
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technically, yes. but that's not what I think when I buy something. just because one person in thq nordic was posting in that site doesn't mean I'm supporting his ideas
No, not technically, actually. You're supporting them - it makes no difference to them if you don't think you're supporting them as you are.

If you want to do so you should be able to admit as much without trying to diminish your support. Again, it's your choice and I'm not casting a stone for your buying of the game, just your attempt to distance yourself from your own actions.

This isn't about one person as it was the company name, brand and image that associated with 8chan, regardless of any backpedaling after the fact.
 

HeRinger

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Oct 28, 2017
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No, not technically, actually. You're supporting them - it makes no difference to them if you don't think you're supporting them as you are.

If you want to do so you should be able to admit as much without trying to diminish your support. Again, it's your choice and I'm not casting a stone for your buying of the game, just your attempt to distance yourself from your own actions.

This isn't about one person as it was the company name, brand and image that associated with 8chan, regardless of any backpedaling after the fact.
Please. You are very clearly trying to shame people for buying the game while being careful with semantics so you don't fall into moderation's prohibition.
 

Bjones

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Oct 30, 2017
5,622
I just hope the rest of the industry is looking at this game and mk11. That's the type of thinking that should you have doing a switch port.
 

Deleted member 7572

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If you have reservations and still want the game, just do what I did: buy it and then make a comparable donation to a charity—I went with Agape Missions.
 

Bjones

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Oct 30, 2017
5,622
hellblade is way more impressive than this

Does hellblade have a 60 FPS sec mode?

My point was to not just go for the best graphics but make sure there is at least other options that puts playability over getting those graphics settings as high up as possible. The switch isn't going to perform on the same level as the other consoles graphics wise but it can be a good fluid experience.
 

SMD

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Oct 28, 2017
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I think it's perfectly possible to be concerned about THQ Nordic publishing this game and also be interested in the Digital Foundry coverage. DF is factual analysis, not marketing. Even if you never buy another THQ game, you can still appreciate the development of the port.

EDIT: also I really want a new Panzer Dragoon.
 

Deleted member 4413

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Everyone called it in the THQ thread. Nobody will care after it blows over. People like to brag about their moral concious until it inconveniences them.

Looks like a good port. I won't be buying and advising everyone else I know to do the same.
 

FutureLarking

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
787
I really hope they'll do a Darksiders 2 port sometime this year, another game I own a few copies of but have never completed! 'm still unsure why they bothered with Legend of Kay though - hell, I'm not sure why the Wii U got it either, I don't recall anyone ever asking for Legend of Kay.

(Low key hoping they'll attempt a Darksiders 3 port as well.)
 

Slam Tilt

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Jan 16, 2018
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Everyone called it in the THQ thread. Nobody will care after it blows over. People like to brag about their moral concious until it inconveniences them.
As reprehensible as that site is, I think there is a difference between directly supporting them vs. supporting someone who refuses to condemn them. It's like staying at Trump Tower vs. buying a pillow from the "My Pillow" guy, for example.
 

Murdy Plops

Banned
Dec 21, 2018
572
I'll be picking this up physically when it drops in price. Easily my favourite Darksiders of the bunch and on my favourite platform. It's a shame
Vigil Games aren't still kicking about making games, this one was a peach.
 

Murdy Plops

Banned
Dec 21, 2018
572
I really hope they'll do a Darksiders 2 port sometime this year, another game I own a few copies of but have never completed! 'm still unsure why they bothered with Legend of Kay though - hell, I'm not sure why the Wii U got it either, I don't recall anyone ever asking for Legend of Kay.

(Low key hoping they'll attempt a Darksiders 3 port as well.)

I'll be on board with this! All 3 games, one physical release; sign me up!
 

Pooroomoo

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Oct 28, 2017
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Will probably play this game with the 30 FPS mode, personally I think I get more enjoyment if a game looks better than improved performance (though it will be interesting to compare and see this in real life, as I never had a game before where I could actually switch between the two).
 

mikehaggar

Developer at Pixel Arc Studios
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Oct 26, 2017
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Will probably play this game with the 30 FPS mode, personally I think I get more enjoyment if a game looks better than improved performance (though it will be interesting to compare and see this in real life, as I never had a game before where I could actually switch between the two).

For this kind of game I would possibly be ok with a locked 30fps and better visuals. However, something about the camera movement in this build just feels off to me at 30fps... it appears really juddery to me at times. I've been playing in performance mode instead. I'm actually impressed how good it still looks even though it's being upscaled.
 

HeRinger

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Oct 28, 2017
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Will probably play this game with the 30 FPS mode, personally I think I get more enjoyment if a game looks better than improved performance (though it will be interesting to compare and see this in real life, as I never had a game before where I could actually switch between the two).
I dunno. I'm usually pretty ok with 30 fps, and the game looks great with native res, but as soon as you compare (it's almost seamless) with performance mode, it's hard to go back.
 

Cow Mengde

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Oct 26, 2017
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I'm surprised the performance mode is 810p and not 720p.

That said, yeah, not supporting this game. Never played any of them to begin with.
 

New Donker

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Oct 26, 2017
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I dunno. I'm usually pretty ok with 30 fps, and the game looks great with native res, but as soon as you compare (it's almost seamless) with performance mode, it's hard to go back.

I downloaded it this morning and Im bouncing between the 2 modes. I feel like I could get used to either the lower res or 30fps but I haven't decided which one yet....Might do a mix of both...60 docked, and quality undocked.
 

HeRinger

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Oct 28, 2017
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I downloaded it this morning and Im bouncing between the 2 modes. I feel like I could get used to either the lower res or 30fps but I haven't decided which one yet....Might do a mix of both...60 docked, and quality undocked.
Docked 60 would be perfect for me since the TV I use for the Switch is 720p. It looks identical to quality mode because of that.

But I play handheld 90% of the time.
 

jrDev

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Mar 2, 2018
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Lol if you want to say you want to support a publisher like THQN just say it, instead of leaving your garbage posts. Sorry (not sorry) my statement hurt your feelings.
Garbage post? Are you serious lol? For what you posted in this thread to call my post garbage is hilarious and way off topic and borderline trolling (surprised the mods didn't pick it up). And I will be buying this game, hope it doesn't hurt your feelings.
 

pixelpatron

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Oct 28, 2017
1,542
Seattle
Love Darksiders, actually went to the THQN website and contacted you many times port begging for this and Darksiders ll to be ported to Switch. Bravo on listening to the fans. Yet, my requests for these games where before your company broke our trust; for any THQN with eyes on this thread. This was a for sure sale, a

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Zero sum outcome due to your non action response to your employees poor judgement, and your lack of accountability. Donations to a cause aligned against child pornography or the dismissal of those involved. Then we can start a conversation again. Actions, not words are what will lead to redemption in this matter, your actions have reaped these consequences, your move.

I hope this isn't a ban-able offense (promoting boycotting), if it is please edit and let me know. (Have mercy I didn't see anything in the FAQ).
 

New Donker

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 26, 2017
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I think I found the perfect mix for me. Performance mode with Chroma FX disabled. This makes it look sharper in the lower res and the frame rate is fantastic. Awesome port all around.