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Digital Foundry: Stadia Red Dead 2 runs at 1440p and 30 fps at X1X settings on Chromecast. 1080p uncapped in browser.
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That would make a lot more sense and would be closer in line to what I'd expect.
Destiny 2 is still a curious affair, though. 1440p/60 should also be possible there.
It's important to remember that Stadia doesn't exist in just one data center and the DF crew and I were certainly not playing RDR2 off the same physical hardware. That said, there's a reason I didn't try to emulate what they do: Dark1x and Dictator are absolutely the experts in this field and their analyses are beyond reproach. The inclusion of the comparison in the review was to illustrate the visual differences between physical and cloud-based hardware.
I expect very similar results to how pc games run on a vega 56.
So if it (let's say) runs at 1080p60 in the browser, does it stays that way when going to Chromecast 4K? Do you have to "restart" the game to make it run in 1440p30.
And if it starts in 1440p30 on Chromecast, does it stays that way if you continue in the browser?
In fact the question is, if it chose different game profile depending on the device it's started, does it change the game profile on the fly or does it have to restart the game?
As their seemless play on what you want is one of their big points, it would be a pain to have to restart a game to switch from phone res to 4K TV (given there's a 4K/fauxK game profile).
And if it starts in 1440p30 on Chromecast, does it stays that way if you continue in the browser?
In fact the question is, if it chose different game profile depending on the device it's started, does it change the game profile on the fly or does it have to restart the game?
As their seemless play on what you want is one of their big points, it would be a pain to have to restart a game to switch from phone res to 4K TV (given there's a 4K/fauxK game profile).
For some rare games it can be great, like top-down scrollers, it tends to add a bit of delay so better use it on games that don't need reaction time.
That's the way I play Pokémon games on Switch, it looks great at fake 60 FPS, my Philips TV does a great job and artifacts are a minor issue in these games.
I only use it in those games, it's not very good in most of the games and Game mode reduces TV lag by two on my model.
Just never use it on any FPS/TPS games or racers, it's just a mess of artifacts and delayed controls.
Richard will look into it. I'm wondering if you can even switch to 1080p60 when using Stadia Pro on the Chromecast...perhaps not.
By that metric every single console manufacturer is lying about their output. Native 4k outside of PC is the exception, not the rule. Google fits right in with the others here.
They say "Up to 4K". You can get away with anything these days as long as a static black picture can be streamed at 4K even if 99.99% of your content is 240p.
Just watched a good 20 minute chunk of RDR2 on the Kotaku stream on the PC (fixed to 1080p at launch) they were definitely playing at 60fps as well. I think DF's presumptions are correct
Interesting. A choice to run games at 1080p60 would take away much of my initial negativity. Can't see the difference between 4K and 1080p anyway in my living room because of the distance to the TV (plus, I'm old), but 30 vs 60fps gets seen within a second.
Howdy. You can (bizzarely) control the quality of the stream using the mobile application for stadia. There are 3 settings at launch.
Full quality at 4k
Balanced (which locks it to 1080p according to Google)
And low bandwidth mode which locks it to a 720p stream.
If Richard can put it onto 'Balanced' using the mobile application and then retest on his Chromecast device it'll be interesting to see what results he gets, specifically for RDR2 (alongside input 'lag' to boot). 😀
What year is this feed from? I'm just trying to understand is this is sarcasm, or early 2000's speculation. Or sarcasm of early 2000's speculation.
This is really sad actually but the good thing is that (bad) reputation might do the work and they eventually change strategy or just put more effort into their service to please their target audience who ever it is.
120 to 144fps is where it's at for the quality seekers now and moving forward. We're talking about 60fps like it's the holy grail.
This kind of surprised me too. I'm mostly a PC gamer, and granted I don't really focus on the most action oriented games, but I'm looking to upgrade to 1440p 120/144 this Black Friday. 4K wasn't even on my radar and even thinking about it, I'd rather have the extra FPS
Wise choice. I mostly play on a 65" OLED and 1080p/120 beats 4k/60 even at five to six feet away.
Really? I was thinking about getting a 4k monitor and playing at 30-60fps as games got more intensive next year, but perhaps 1440p is the sweet spot... I might be playing as far as 8-10 feet though.
That's really weird if 1080p gives you a higher frame rate. Wouldn't that mean that paying for Stadia Pro will give you 30 fps which is worse than using the free version at 1080p?
Stadia Pro is a terrible choice in general anyway, as all games seem to be sub-4K so you might as well enjoy them in 1080p without a monthly fee.
Stadia Pro is a terrible choice in general anyway, as all games seem to be sub-4K so you might as well enjoy them in 1080p without a monthly fee.
Yeah. He has bad luck in choosing projects. He worked at Xbox One launch, too.
Nvidia's Ultra Low Latency mode combined with VRR/GSync is also an absolute game changer for me, even at 60fps. Games feel so different and responsive with it enabled that going back to consoles now feels really laggy, never mind Stadia. Even just scrolling through the menus on a title screen feels so different going between ULL/Gsync on PC and then on PS4 Pro/X. I hope the next gen consoles implement ULL/VRR in a similar way to it works on PC.
The gap between streaming and local play isn't going to narrow over time.
It's going to grow.
HFR reduces blur on OLED, which means motion resolution increases.
Certainly with VRR being standard on TVs in future (as standardised in HDMI 2.1 spec), this will be the case.
Yeah, that dude's cursed. He needs to start carrying a lucky charm or something.
After X1/PS4 launch when games like COD Ghosts were 1080 PS4, 720 X1.
I think it's more of a "wrong place, wrong time" type thing. He may just not be very good at reading at the market. Of course, what does he care with the payouts that he gets?
Streaming is 100% not going to cut it for the majority of mouse and keyboard gamers, even those not running ULL/VRR setups.
You can step through YouTube videos with
, and . on the desktop. With a 60 FPS video it's trivial to determine if a game is targeting 30 or 60. It will update every frame for 60, and only every second frame for 30.Of course that is not going to determine if something is running between 50-60 FPS for example, but it's really easy to identify ≤30 FPS this way.
Plus, you know, using your eyes to see if it's smooth or not.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's something like running multiple players on a single blade rather than dedicating an entire blade per player.
People seem to assume the "power of the cloud" will be used to scale up and allocate multiple blades per player for demanding games, but this is a good way to maximize player count with less hardware investment.
4K60 is an issue of bandwidth, not "hardware". Any recent GPU can encode 4K.
Video Encode and Decode GPU Support Matrix
Find the related video encoding and decoding support for all NVIDIA GPU products.
developer.nvidia.com