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Digital foundry : Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice Performance Analysis + Graphics Comparison
- Thread starter Anthony Hopkins
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Still getting the X version instead of Pro for the slightly better graphics. (And the hope of a small performance changing patch at least cause the potential of the console is there)
If 38 frames on X or 44 on Pro doesn't really make a difference anyway with open framerate.
If 38 frames on X or 44 on Pro doesn't really make a difference anyway with open framerate.
It's a real shame. Still have never touched Bloodborne because of all the technical issues.
lol PS4 Pro and Xbox One X are more than capable of running this game much better than it does. Sekiro isn't exactly a graphical powerhouse like a lot of games are this gen.
I just think they have different standards and maybe they've noticed that nice graphics is something people get over really quickly. If the game's fun and playable, that's all most of their audience really care about. I know Capcom tries pretty hard to keep up with graphics/performance, though.
This might run at 4k 60fps on the ps5 but their next game will just run like crap anyway. They just don't prioritize good performance
Awesome. Think I'll pick it up tonight while it's still $5 off at GMG :D
Nope, it's explained in the video that it's a 1800p resolution down scaled.
You missed out on one of the best games this gen because you heard it had technical issues? Wut. What technical issues btw? You mean the frame pacing? The only real "issue" that concerned me was near the entrance of Old Yharnam whenever I got to where the first werewolves are. There's a big performance drop there. The rest of the game is nothing like that, just typical bad frame pacing by From Software. Missing out because of that sounds absurd lol. Subpar frame rate comes with From Software territory on consoles. It has never stopped those millions of people across the world from endlessly playing the games.
Be aware that you won't be able to unlock the game early if you buy it outside of Steam.
I know it's idiotic, I'm just like that with games. The aliasing, framepacing, resolutiob of Bloodborne make it sadly unplayable for me. To give context, I can't replay certain Uncharted 4 levels because I can't stand the shadows in that game. Can't play assassins Creed because of the animations etc etc. I'm cursed and I hate it.
Edit: Also not just heard of the issues, I did try to play it but couldn't go longer than 10 minutes.
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Same old shit, could have predicted this a mile away. It's amazing how a developer making these types of games has literally never offered anything close to smooth performance. At least there's a PC version. I bought KH3 and instantly regretted it, that game's unlocked frame rate was an absolute shitshow.
Bloodborne runs horribly on PS4 Pro, low resolution and low framerate.
I don't understand, why would they think I want 42 Fps?
Would capping it at 30 be a more difficult thing to do development wise?
Would capping it at 30 be a more difficult thing to do development wise?
Expected but still highly disappointed that all of these masterpieces have such bad performance. At this point, I am assuming that it's impossible for From to produce good performance in these games.
Oh well. Still getting it.
Oh well. Still getting it.
Not at all. Not even the upgraded console brute forcing it can get it to play at 30fps at 1080p properly.
Exactly 4 years and 3 games later, yet we're seeing the same technical problems every time. Man...
It's unlocked framerate. Bruteforcing should push it to 60 automatically if the Pro/X is anything to go by.
I get that the game isn't by all means "optimized" on consoles... but the way people are in here shitting on it is like the game is unplayable. I feel like some people missed the review thread where it is getting 9/10's & 9.5/10's pretty much across the board. That and it seems like everyone is bringing up Bloodborne like it wasn't also a wildly popular exclusive regardless of certain technical flaws.
I'd hate for people who are new to FromSoft games to be discouraged from buying Sekiro because of the critiques like these from people who have yet to play it first hand.
I'd hate for people who are new to FromSoft games to be discouraged from buying Sekiro because of the critiques like these from people who have yet to play it first hand.
Sub 30fps and terrible frame pacing when it does run at it is basically bottom of the barrel when it comes to being nice to play.
You're right that it differs person to person. Guess it comes down to tolerance, and for me Bloodborne was indeed unplayable (and sadly remains unplayed)
It doesnt hold it back from being an amazing game but performance really is that big of a deal to me. DS3 had unlocked frames on the Pro and the difference is massive.
Man that ace combat xbox 1x Port just comes off as lazy.
I beat it on there first, then got it on my pro for the vr playthrough and even then it still felt lazy. Great game but I just think they put performance on the back burner
As far as Sekiro goes I got it on my 1x preloaded and ready. I have a 120hz setup so here's to hoping it's good lol.
I took the weekend off and dont tk back to work until Wednesday! Lol
Just realized I can get the Xbox version for free, so I'll go with that version and double dip on the PC when I get some extra funds.
It doesn't really drop frames on the Pro and while there are still frame pacing issues, I think it's improved a bit in boost mode.
It doesn't really drop frames on the Pro and while there are still frame pacing issues, I think it's improved a bit in boost mode.
Yup, going to have to go PC for this one, that's pretty bad for all consoles. Haven't had a chance to check out the video though, but when I get home I will, need to make a definitive decision.
Yah, reviews don't look at typical forum gamer hyperbole and they shouldn't. A lot of people here and back on GAF (mostly the same people, surprise surprise) like to throw around the word "unplayable" and not actually know what it means. Imagine major gaming websites ever decided to word their reviews the way too many forum posters do. No one would buy games and the developers would look really bad. Look how many millions of people play From Software games and we still have weird forum posters calling them unplayable. Besides that, not everyone has the same standard. Try meeting normal casual gamers in real life and see if you're going to hear them complaining about frame rate for games like this. Even most of the "hardcore" ones don't. They won't knock Sekiro for bad performance, they'll complain about how hard it is instead.
frame pacing is a weird thing. no one ever said anything about it last gen in these type of DF threads that i can remember? did it not exist or did people just not know it was happening and described it as just stutter or dropped frames, bad framerate?
i didn't really remember it bothering me in bloodborne or ds3 despite the complaints. i remember ff15 getting a lot of complaints too in the quality mode on pro.
i didn't really remember it bothering me in bloodborne or ds3 despite the complaints. i remember ff15 getting a lot of complaints too in the quality mode on pro.
I think people just didn't understand what was happening. I know I didn't, just never understood why some games didnt feel 'smooth'
While I'm sure everyone would want perfect framerates in every game, to most people it's something that just isn't that big of a deal, as these games still get top review scores, fan praise and sell really well.
I'm not sensitive to framerate issues myself so I have no issues playing a From game, despite the performance being far from perfect but it must really suck to be someone that honestly couldn't play and enjoy a game just because it judders or stutters a bit.
I'm not sensitive to framerate issues myself so I have no issues playing a From game, despite the performance being far from perfect but it must really suck to be someone that honestly couldn't play and enjoy a game just because it judders or stutters a bit.
The game was revealed at Microsoft's E3 conference. So many outlets have previewed the game at this point I don't think the PSU episode means anything.
I don't think they "hid" the Xbox version. They just focused on PS4 because it's more popular and possibly their preference.
Freesync monitors will sort out the issues if you're using an xbox one x as it supports vrr.
Doubtful many use a freesync monitor with their xbox one x though.
People in the future will be able to enjoy this game with hdmi 2.1 vrr on their new TVs and whichever console they choose but I'd say stay away for now unless you buy it on pc.
From software needs to fix their games on consoles but won't unless people stop buying them.
Frame pacing and 38 to 45 fps Is garbage.
Doubtful many use a freesync monitor with their xbox one x though.
People in the future will be able to enjoy this game with hdmi 2.1 vrr on their new TVs and whichever console they choose but I'd say stay away for now unless you buy it on pc.
From software needs to fix their games on consoles but won't unless people stop buying them.
Frame pacing and 38 to 45 fps Is garbage.
