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Digital Foundry: Resident Evil 3 Remake Demo: What's Up With Xbox One X? All Versions Tested
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Please post the article accompanied with the video. I've found you do this often, just post the video, until someone else chimes in that there is an article, too.
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TL;DW
- By design more taxing than RE2.
- HDR is utterly brilliant when calibrated. One of the better showcases for it.
- Regardless of HDR or SDR, you will need to spend some time in brightness calibration settings.
- XBX targets full 4K with signs of reconstruction.
- PS4 Pro still on 1620p ala RE2 with similar reconstruction.
- X pushing more pixels but results aren't exactly too sharp.
- Base PS4: Native 1080p.
- Base XBO: Peak of 1080p with dynamic drops to 900p and between.
- Resolution ties to pixel breakup in hair. XBX > PS4 Pro > PS4 > XBO
- X has a sharper bokeh DoF seen in cut-scenes and sharper shadows compared to rest.
Performance:
- XBX shows significant drops to 40's in game play and 30's for cut-scenes.
- Pro is the front-runner, sticks to 60 with small drops to high 50's in game play. Cut-scenes drop between 50's.
- Base machines could use a 30 FPS cap. Though relatively speaking X is sometimes worse than base PS4.
- Base XBO is the worst performing version.
- By design more taxing than RE2.
- HDR is utterly brilliant when calibrated. One of the better showcases for it.
- Regardless of HDR or SDR, you will need to spend some time in brightness calibration settings.
- XBX targets full 4K with signs of reconstruction.
- PS4 Pro still on 1620p ala RE2 with similar reconstruction.
- X pushing more pixels but results aren't exactly too sharp.
- Base PS4: Native 1080p.
- Base XBO: Peak of 1080p with dynamic drops to 900p and between.
- Resolution ties to pixel breakup in hair. XBX > PS4 Pro > PS4 > XBO
- X has a sharper bokeh DoF seen in cut-scenes and sharper shadows compared to rest.
Performance:
- XBX shows significant drops to 40's in game play and 30's for cut-scenes.
- Pro is the front-runner, sticks to 60 with small drops to high 50's in game play. Cut-scenes drop between 50's.
- Base machines could use a 30 FPS cap. Though relatively speaking X is sometimes worse than base PS4.
- Base XBO is the worst performing version.
As I said on the Demo thread, it performs like crap on the X and I hope this is just old unoptimized code and not representative of how the final version will run.
Really hope they fix it on XB1X for the full release. I'm generally not one to care about or notice performance differences, and even I could tell something was wrong.
User Warned: Lazy dev rhetoric
Sorry to say and I know I will sound like a mad bitch. But this is just the work of Capcom being extremely lazy with the Xbox version. Because how can the Xbox One X underperform the PS4 Pro. I can understand the original Xbox One with the PS4 but with the Xbox One X being underperforming I think they didn't even bother with Xbox.
they need to just write the right number in the resolution toggle of their engine, I think even the most lazy team could do such an "optimization"
1X version is running at nearly double the resolution of Pro. 1X is not 2x as powerful as Pro so somethings gotta give.
Good grief 'lazy devs' narrative is back again. We don't know how representative the demo is of the game and even then the game runs at a higher resolution on XBOX than PS4 Pro so evidently performance will be impacted. Whether they will add a toggle for this or change resolution remains to be seen but if they don't immediately ship with it, the odds of it being 'laziness' are extremely low...
I don't understand why some devs do this with X, don't go higher on resolution than the framerate can handle!
They don't even need to drop it that low.
It's running at a much higher resolution.
I guess they took feedback from RE2 that people would have preferred higher resolution on XBX.
Maybe they'll find a lossless optimisation, or simply cut back on the resolution for the final release, if the feedback points in that direction.
But at the moment it's trying to push 77% more resolution that Pro with (in simple terms) 50% more performance or so.
lol I thought the framepacing was iffy on PS4 Pro when I played but heh, it was nothing compared to the rest it seems.
Maybe not, but it would be a smoother experience than 1800P. This game in particular with the dodge mechanic would benefit greatly. Especially at higher difficulty.
While the frame rate is completely unacceptable, I have to say I much prefer the image quality on 1X. It's a little bit soft, but otherwise extremely clean, while on PS4 there's a lot of ugly edge shimmering.
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I'm with the "just drop resolution / introduce dynamic scaling" crowd.
The game has such a heavy post processed look that kinda mitigates any extra sharpness the resolution bump brings anyway. Hair filtering is the only place where X's resolution increase makes a difference. Other effects like higher quality Bokeh in cut-scenes and shadow quality are (or should be) independent of the base resolution.
The game has such a heavy post processed look that kinda mitigates any extra sharpness the resolution bump brings anyway. Hair filtering is the only place where X's resolution increase makes a difference. Other effects like higher quality Bokeh in cut-scenes and shadow quality are (or should be) independent of the base resolution.
Then I guess my C9 and the game HDR settings aren't properly calibrated because it just looks bad. The raised black levels are crazy.
I don't know why they're advocating a 30fps cap on base PS4. This is from VG Tech's analysis:
Base PS4 delivers frames within 16.67ms ~71% of the time while Xbox One does it ~42% of the time. It performs better than the One X version, even. I really wish DF would collect this kind of data instead of giving broad generalizations.
Base PS4 delivers frames within 16.67ms ~71% of the time while Xbox One does it ~42% of the time. It performs better than the One X version, even. I really wish DF would collect this kind of data instead of giving broad generalizations.
It was using xbox base assets at 4k resolution. Meanwhile the Pro was running at 1440P(?), but had higher quality assets.
It didn't take long for the devs to patch it up.
Still, I don't think it's the case with RE3. It's just running worse because it's pushing more pixels.
"Massive" is an exaggeration and this game has different priorities to RE2.
We discussed it a lot in the demo thread. :3
The price we pay for having more enemies/explosions on screen. I hope there's a next gen patch.
RE3 is running at a higher resolution than DMC and RE2. They sure tried it with the X.
1. It will get downgraded to match Pro
2. They will somehow stabilize framerate
1. It will get downgraded to match Pro
2. They will somehow stabilize framerate
I gave up playing the demo on my one x, it's fucking gorgeous to look at, but my god it plays horribly, I am also not buying it day one anymore as I am waiting feedback from players as to how performance is in the final game.
What's strange is that they already have the resolution scaling working on base xbone. Just use the damn thing on X too
That's ultimately why I went with the 1X over PS4 Pro for RE2. The differences between the two versions felt negligible otherwise. Hopefully they'll address this in time for release, it will make the decision a lot easier, haha.
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It's a little worse than RE2, but that's owing to the bigger scope of the game and how many more enemies etc it's pushing compared to RE2.
VGTech's RE2 video with performance metrics:
Resident Evil 2 Remake PS4 vs PS4 Pro vs Xbox One X vs Xbox One Frame Rate Comparison
Review Codes were supplied by Capcom. Resident Evil 2 Remake frame rate test comparing the performance on Playstation 4, Playstation 4 Pro, Xbox One and Xbox...
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RE2 on OG PS4 has an average frame rate of 50~ FPS. RE3 on OG PS4 has 46.5~
Did DF stop analysing PC for more titles or is it just me?
I was hoping they would look at which AA, Res, downsampling combination would lead to cleaner hair.
The hair is what really screws with me in RE2 looks like the issue is the same in RE3.
I was hoping they would look at which AA, Res, downsampling combination would lead to cleaner hair.
The hair is what really screws with me in RE2 looks like the issue is the same in RE3.