26.8%, if that makes you sleep better at night.
1.31 Xbox
1.8 PS4
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Digital Foundry: PlayStation 5/ Xbox Series X New GPU Spec Leak Analysis: 9.2TF vs 12TF?
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1.31 Xbox
1.8 PS4
Gears 5 is as good if not better then any Sony game I've played this gen. So yes, games like Gears 5 is proof of top quality AAA equivalent on MS consoles, those extra TFs will be felt with Coalition at the helm.
how am I trolling which system play more 4K games out of pro and one x ??
all I want to see is what a system can do with a 4k tv
Not really. MS could just take a bigger loss per unit lowering the price because of services like Game Pass Ultimate or XCloud.
I actually didnt know that about the lite in japan and that does surprise me!
Bingo, it doesn't matter, folks have already made up their minds anyway as to what they will purchase next year.
Both games and power are important. Thankfully I still play Halo, Gears and Forza so Xbox is a no Brainer while I might just skip on the PS5 until the mid gen upgrade. And even then I'd probably skip on it for the mid gen Xbox.
This is all just assumptions ofc. But I don't see why they wouldn't.
This is all just assumptions ofc. But I don't see why they wouldn't.
If the PS5 is 9TF and $100 cheaper than the xsx why in the world would the Lockhart be the same price as the PS5 at 4TF?
Yes they can definitely market it that way. It's feels dirty to me but yeah I suppose they could.
i doubt we will see 30fps games on ps5 which are 60fps on xsx
Yep. But back then 600 seemed a lot more in comparison to other things.
Framerate is mostly CPU. Wich both will have a great one of now. Way more exciting and "next gen" then this TF talk.
And this too. Lots of people in here have already decided on the pricing structures and specs based on those preferences to boot!
true but as we can see with NPD and other charts most of the list is full of 3rd party games for both Xbox and Sony and I play mostly 3rd party games so I'm only looking for a system to continue my 3rd party purchase
Base PS4 had ~30% more TFLOPS than base Xbox One. If this rumor is true, the roles are flipped this gen, and XSX would have ~30% more TFLOPS than the PS5.
Given the only number being compared is compute/flops, that gap would be the smallest it's been between any two same-gen consoles(not counting handhelds) in the last 20 years.
Not that this is likely to matter to people who care about power in the first place, as we're an audience that increasingly focuses on smaller differences every generation.
I suppose math isn't your Strong Suit.
1.31 to 1.84.
28.8 percent difference.
But go ahead, give it a +50% change if it helps you feel better.
yep if you read the charts posted and the links provided the original switch is close to sold out while switch lite have stock everywhere
people rather wait to spend on the switch that can dock
japan prefer consoles
I agree, the PS4 Pro is a disappointment. Don't get me wrong I still love it but god there're so many games running subpar-ly or even bad at times.
From Witcher 3 to Red Dead 2, it seems like the Pro is constantly getting the short end of the stick.
It doesn't do 4K well, and it doesn't do 60fps well either. I only bought one because the base PS4 can barely run games at this point.
Honestly I am getting sick of "compromised" consoles at this point (which I consider Pro to be one) and if PS5 turns out to be as compromised then I am either going full PC or wait for PS5 Pro. Hopefully the PS5 Pro won't be another PS4 Pro situation.
First, I said "cost as much/more" and that includes "equal". Second, just reading off the previous page...
What's up with the random accusation?
Might be why they were confident enough to reveal the hardware so early and even disclose a few more interesting details. They still have so much to reveal though.
Or they just prefer the larger screen of the regular switch, and the ability to play table top mode. It doesn't have to mean that they play docked
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How fucking weird is it for DF to comment on unsubstantiated rumors like this? Are they desperate for clicks?
This place is an enthusiast forum obviously so we're going to have lines drawn in the sand and people fight it out. People aren't convincing the mainstream up public with their posts here. It's more about attacking each other for liking plastic boxes.
If it's any thing i would say it you that can't stick to a number .
What are you doing lol.
They are dumb then. There's no way PS5 costs more than XSX. The console, if these specs end up being final, is really pushing to be between Lockhart and XSX on price.
I am using the OG Xbox one as the base measurement.
Xbox one S had 1.4TF.
A quick Google search would help you seem less ignorant on the topic.
This is not nearly as clear cut.
Current gen consoles are heavily CPU limited, which does mean that they're holding framerates back. That being said, in a balanced environment, the main limiting factor for framerates is the GPU.
Current high end PC gaming is not at all limited by CPU, in practically any case. There's very few cases where even at 1440p it's a factor. 4k is 100% GPU.
Consoles will be similiar next gen.
Next gen is looking to push a much higher level of fidelity than current gen as well, so while the new ryzen cpus would undeniable be able to pump out 60+ fps on current gen games, they will likely not be the deciding factor for what a games' frame rate is next gen, but rather, graphical fidelity itself - GPU- will be.
It definitely makes a difference to multi-console owners. Coming into this generation, I owned both consoles but ultimately purchased all multi-platform single player games on the PS4 by default because they were always the superior port. And then when the Xbox One X came out, I pivoted to purchasing all multi-platform single player games for that. And then from there, I obviously purchase each console's respect exclusive titles, and then 3rd party multiplayer games depend on where my friends are playing.
So going into next generation, and I'm sure I'm not alone, but if the Xbox One Series X is truly the stronger of the two consoles - then I'll be purchasing all single player multi-platform games for it by default.
Proving you wrong.
But hey completely ignore that part lol. :)
Xbox for the ecosystem and exclusive games (unless they completely waste all the new talent they have they are gonna have some serious exclusive titles next gen) and PlayStation for the few exclusives that are must plays for me.
Contrary to what many think, the PS4 was a conservative (compared to PS2 and PS3) console designed around a price point. Same with PS4 Pro. MS have clearly demonstrated that they aren't afraid of going more than $400, and they launched TWO consoles at $500 this gen.
People were surprised by recent reporting on Series X hardware, in part, because I think they were expecting MS to be targeting the same price point as Sony, myself included. A true 12 TF GPU at $400 doesn't seem feasible, and that's why people are now thinking $500 for the system. Then you have the design of it, and everything that suggests about power draw and thermals, etc.
I don't think it's feasible that Sony launch a $500 console as a single SKU next year. The PS4's sales this year have shown that while some people want more powerful 4K capable systems, it's far from preferred, at least when you're talking a substantial price premium to hit it.
I do believe the PS4 being more powerful than the Xbox One was a key part of its success, along with the difference in price and the first party games on offer, but I don't think it was their goal really. I also think it was more a situation where the Xbox One wasn't *powerful enough* compared to the 360, and people were expecting native 1080p from the new consoles. Xbox One barely met that, and so it suffered.
Sony have the success of the PS1 and PS2 to remind them that most powerful isn't the be all and end all. I don't think it was a design goal of the PS4 to be more powerful than their competition. MS gifted them that with a lot of decisions made for understandable reasons but that with retrospect stand as the wrong choices. People wanted a console aimed at the core gaming audience. The Xbox One wasn't that.
A 9.whatever TF PS5 absolutely will be more than powerful enough, and the the likely truth is, more people considering one will be comparing it to their PS4 rather than the the Series X, PS4 Pro or Xbox One X.
True, but this is an enthusiast forum with a lot of Sony fans. They're gonna want something at least close to the XSX. A $400 price tag would certainly allow Sony to jump ahead of MS early on though even if the power isn't as close as people would like it to be. I can't see the XSX being any lower than $499
We don't even know the prices of These consoles yet so I'd believe it. Sony probably trying to keep it within a certain budget