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Digital Foundry: Ori And The Will Of The Wisps Analysis - XB1S dropping as low as 28FPS and X as low as 35FPS
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No issues for me. I'm about 7 hours in and haven't dropped a single frame at 4k60. No audio issues either. Steam version.
It's such a great game otherwise, it really is, but the performance hurts this game worse than I expected. It's like this beautiful game with amazing effects and visuals, soaring pristine music , and then two bad guys appear on screen, the frame rate fluctuates wildly and you're like "What the fuck just happened here?!" It's so out of place in an otherwise great title
You know, original Xbox Ones exist, perhaps you might want to invest some time into that experience, too?
The X1 is barely at all different from the S and will benefit from S improvements.
60 seems to be doable. It's higher frame rates that tend to struggle a bit with low cpu/gpu utilization. That's fairly common for Unity titles unfortunately. Likely has to do with some bad threading in the game logic. Not sure if the blame lies with Unity or devs though.
I didn't play for long but it seemed perfectly fine when I tested it at 3840x1600 ultrawide as well. It was hovering between 120 and 144 fps and was smooth once I enabled gsync for windowed programs.
No go for me with a 2070 Super at 1080p/144/GSync with the GamePass version. Can't get a framerate monitor your work for some reason so I can't see the framerate, but it's juddering noticeably.
Borderless window may be the culprit, however. GSync doesn't play very well with UWP titles, especially with mismatched multi monitors due to the refresh rate issues.
I get stuttering and audio cuts literally every time I move to a new area and that's on a 2070 Super and NVME at 1080p60fps. I'm on Game Pass so I wouldn't be surprised if the Windows Store version was worse.
The irony is that the base console is usually what the biggest playerbase is on but it always gets the least care.
The irony is that the base console is usually what the biggest playerbase is on but it always gets the least care.
You can force actual fullscreen in this game. Fixed the jutter/stutter on my gsync monitor perfectly.
Launch "regedit" (can just type this in windows search bar)
Navigate to Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Moon Studios\OriAndTheWilloftheWisps
Set Screenmanager Fullscreen mode_h3630240806 to 0 (should be 1 by default).
Launch "regedit" (can just type this in windows search bar)
Navigate to Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Moon Studios\OriAndTheWilloftheWisps
Set Screenmanager Fullscreen mode_h3630240806 to 0 (should be 1 by default).
It is a little bizarre, are reviewers supposed to wait for day one patches before they start their review as "that's the one everyone will be playing"? Asking the reviewer to go back and re-review the game is a big ask especially when the patch didn't even fix the problems like everyone was assuming.
I'm happy with 1440P performance on my GTX1060 6gb and Ryzen (I forget which, but it was never top of the line). This is the Gamepass version so there's minor hitching when loading at points, and some sound bzzts but frame rate seems fine. Very weird the X has such drops. Is it cpu related?
I hope the patch actually did fix the issues for them rather than just changing the score for the sake of peer pressure.
Finished the gamepass version on a gtx 970 and nvme. Ran it at 72-120fps (changed cap in areas that were more demanding) and aside from actual bugs like getting stuck in the ground or falling through the ground, I only saw very minor stutter once in a while. I had frametime graph up my whole playthrough. Opening the map late-game caused a rough stutter though.
That's a tricky one. If a reviewer is playing a build of the game that the general public won't be playing, their input on those pre-release issues won't be valid or valuable to the reader especially when the review guide specifically notes this. I wouldn't take them to task on a pre-release build for that reason.
Post launch/day one patch, though? It's fair as that is a version people will play.
Those with performance problems on PC, run the game is exclusive fullscreen mode.
Thats what worked for me.
You'll have to do it via regedit though, becuase the game is fucking dire when it comes to graphics options.
Thats what worked for me.
You'll have to do it via regedit though, becuase the game is fucking dire when it comes to graphics options.
I didn't know about the last part. Quite remarkable indeed.
I'll believe it when I see it though. But if it happens, I have no doubt that you'll be the first to find out using your favorite website!
AMD GPUs performing relatively poorly in this game - wonder if that is mirrored on consoles.
I'm so disappointed by the performance on the One S. The unlocked and constantly shifting framerate is extremely annoying and kicks the game's satisfying fluidity which the gameplay otherwise offers right in the balls.
But this is not even the game's biggest technical problem. When I started playing I got regular micro stutters every next minute. Now, like 6 hours into the game, these stutters have become 3 to 5 seconds long and appear at least once a minute. The game just completely freezes for a few seconds in the middle of gameplay. WTF.
It's bonkers that the game shipped like that. I rarely have the time to play a game twice so this will likely forever be my impression of Ori 2. A patch in a few weeks or months is nice for other players but it doesn't excuse the state the game was launched at.
Massive disappointment.
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Just skimmed through the DF video and it looks like the freezing/stutter issues I had were not covered. Did you not have these problems at all on One S Dark1x ?
But this is not even the game's biggest technical problem. When I started playing I got regular micro stutters every next minute. Now, like 6 hours into the game, these stutters have become 3 to 5 seconds long and appear at least once a minute. The game just completely freezes for a few seconds in the middle of gameplay. WTF.
It's bonkers that the game shipped like that. I rarely have the time to play a game twice so this will likely forever be my impression of Ori 2. A patch in a few weeks or months is nice for other players but it doesn't excuse the state the game was launched at.
Massive disappointment.
Edit:
Just skimmed through the DF video and it looks like the freezing/stutter issues I had were not covered. Did you not have these problems at all on One S Dark1x ?
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Playing it on PC and I have GTX 1060. there are sluttering and sound issues. It stops shortly after playing the game, but it comes back with major cutscenes and the sound can be really annoying and ruins the cutscene. It's a shame, because aside from that the game is amazing.
I am playing this on a 'Day One' Xbox One.
Think about us poor folks too...
I have had to stop playing this after reaching a certain point, as the stuttering has become so, so bad.
I'm genuinely pleased Moon Studios got the critical acclaim they deserve however, so many reviews seems to completely neglect these glaring technical issues. Were they all playing the PC version or something?
The PC version had a lower MC for the first few says actually and has half the reviews.
That's not true.
I remember long discussions about first game stuttering problems with devs. They promised patches for months but finally only the new release of the Definitive Edition barely fixed the problems.
Stuttering! :: Ori and the Blind Forest General Discussions
So, the game runs at 60fps most of the time for me, but occasionally, especially when I am moving from one area or scene to another (or during cutscenes even), there is a slight but very much noticeable stutter. Kinda immersion breaking really. Is anyone else getting it?
'Removing the stutters on Xbox One S and Xbox One X after longer periods of play time'- This is exactly what happened to me yesterday. It ruined the game for me so I turned it off and restarted and it performed much better.
I havnt noticed and noticable performance issues so far on my One X.
I did however notice a couple of stutters that didnt really bother me much.. I'm not too far in to the game though so I guess I will encounter it soon enough
I did however notice a couple of stutters that didnt really bother me much.. I'm not too far in to the game though so I guess I will encounter it soon enough
Most 4K games are 30fps so you can't really see how demanding they are, but sure Gears 5 is 4K and close to locked 60fps so I still kinda agree.
As for Blind Forest on Switch it can be compared to that since they've gone with full 3D now. I doubt we'll ever see Will of the Wisps on Switch unless they remakes it completely in 2D.
true - but I would have the thought the side on aspect would have allowed the developer to more readily control what is being rendered more easily than something with a freely controllable camera, and so optimisation and frame rate stability should be relatively more achievable.
some level of responsibility on publishers to not make available builds to reviewers that they aren't happy being reviewed.
day 1 patches are so common these days that perhaps the 'gold' version quality is knowingly slipping. Maybe they should focus on more solid performance/stability for a day -7 patch so reviewers get some time with a good build. This 'just in time' approach is biting them in the ass
Well I wouldn't know, because the version of the game I played (and seems like the version John played as well), were very good performing. So that was my experience. Regardless it was a unique game in that despite being Unity it performed well as it showed that it was possible to have a good looking good performing Unity game.That's not true.
I remember long discussions about first game stuttering problems with devs. They promised patches for months but finally only the new release of the Definitive Edition barely fixed the problems.
Stuttering! :: Ori and the Blind Forest General Discussions
So, the game runs at 60fps most of the time for me, but occasionally, especially when I am moving from one area or scene to another (or during cutscenes even), there is a slight but very much noticeable stutter. Kinda immersion breaking really. Is anyone else getting it?steamcommunity.com
Edit: That's steam forums, so PC ver. we are talking about Xbox ver here. John has the first game running the framerate counter in this video itself and you can see stable 60FPS there
Or, you know, first finish the game in a good state, then press the discs.
silly bird.
I mean - yes, but I was trying to find a middle ground knowing they can't lock in 4-6 weeks ahead of launch, so a small digital patch 1-2 weeks out would be ok
That was pretty shameful. Reviewer was just posting his thoughts and got jumped on by everyone for not following the party line, as is usual in review threads sadly. And now that we have proof that the complaints about performance were justified I doubt they'll be clamoring for a score change the other way.
Yeah same here. It runs fine here. Only problem i have is something the loading zones. It pauses abit with loading it. But thats like ones every 2 hours or so.
Game is looker tho. Like a Disney movie.
I dont like the Unity engine. Inside is the only game I can remember that I never had any problems with.
It's unfortunate that the Xbox one x performance is so bad. Lost save files numerous times, constant crashes and sound issues.
I'm surprised that people are having performance issues with this on PC.
The original Ori stuttered constantly on my PC while running around - and still does, while Ori 2 seems to mostly run smooth except for some dropped frames as it transitions to new areas - at least when targeting 60 FPS. EDIT: The PC is a Ryzen 1700X at 3.9GHz, paired with a GTX 1070 and running at 3440x1440.
The game still puts me to sleep though, just like the original. Not a fan of it at all.
Something of note is that they dropped DirectInput support for this release, so I'm stuck without a controller in the Game Pass version as it doesn't detect a DualShock 4.
I thought Microsoft had created a new API for UWP games which let them support DirectInput devices. If I recall correctly one of the Forza games was first to use it, so that they could support most existing wheels.
Who cares if a game is 4K native if it runs badly? Or if it's 900p if it's running well?
You better not say anything that is not 100% positive about people's favorite games - even if those games are not actually out yet, so they haven't had a chance to play them.
I've learned to be liberal in my use of the ignore function because otherwise I don't think I'd be spending any time here.
The original Ori stuttered constantly on my PC while running around - and still does, while Ori 2 seems to mostly run smooth except for some dropped frames as it transitions to new areas - at least when targeting 60 FPS. EDIT: The PC is a Ryzen 1700X at 3.9GHz, paired with a GTX 1070 and running at 3440x1440.
The game still puts me to sleep though, just like the original. Not a fan of it at all.
Something of note is that they dropped DirectInput support for this release, so I'm stuck without a controller in the Game Pass version as it doesn't detect a DualShock 4.
I thought Microsoft had created a new API for UWP games which let them support DirectInput devices. If I recall correctly one of the Forza games was first to use it, so that they could support most existing wheels.
Doesn't seem to exist for the Game Pass version - though that shouldn't be surprising.
Performance is the most important information for most people.
Who cares if a game is 4K native if it runs badly? Or if it's 900p if it's running well?
Despite being progressive in some areas, this forum is extremely toxic on certain subjects.
You better not say anything that is not 100% positive about people's favorite games - even if those games are not actually out yet, so they haven't had a chance to play them.
I've learned to be liberal in my use of the ignore function because otherwise I don't think I'd be spending any time here.
I don't know how this game scored that high with all the tehnical problems that it had.
My experience with it on PC was pretty miserable in that regard with slowdowns, audio problems, bugs and a few more problems.
My experience with it on PC was pretty miserable in that regard with slowdowns, audio problems, bugs and a few more problems.
You could have created this thread but you didn't.
Surprised at Xbox1X performance.