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Digital Foundry: Judgment: The Complete Dragon Engine Analysis on PS4/PS4 Pro
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Dragon engine getting the attention it deserves. Was hoping for the game to run a bit better especially on the pro. 1080p/60fps unless the engine can't do that which I doubt it
God I love Dragon Engine. Appreciate they polished some of the walking mechanics so the main character no longer walks into a restaurant and immediately destroys all the stools.
Don't have time to watch the video right now, but is there any mention of HDR support? Kamurocho at night seems like a perfect HDR showcase, so it'd be a real shame if the game didn't support it.
Kiwami 2 is 60FPS on PC, so it is capable. The Pro just isn't strong enough.
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I can't wait to play the game. The store I bought the game from fucked up my order so I will have to find it somewhere else. Sadly there seems to be a shortage of copies.
Such a missed opportunity. HDR just doesn't seem to be a priority of most Japanese devs, which is understandable, but it's still such a shame that there have been so many games out of Japan that would look incredible in HDR that just don't support it.
I would say the engine is not capable.
900p/30fps (unstable) on the PS4 and 1080p/30fps on the PS4Pro is not a great achievement considering what the game is showing imho.
There's plenty of more graphically impressive and detailed games pushing 1080p/30fps and 1440p/30fps respectively at least, even excluding 60 fps out of the equation.
And this is why I hoped to see the game on X1X with Yakuza games
Just finished watching. Another great video by by dark1x and another purchase secured. I'm going to be sad when my gamers club runs out.
Ok so I wasn't going crazy when I noticed some awkward hitches in in-game cutscenes playing on Pro, while the actual gameplay was completely smooth.
CS1 and CS2 should really just pool their resources on a joint company wide engine for nextgen. Custom engines from the Yakuza, Sonic and Valkyria/Miku teams (and each to mixed results) never made much sense imo but at least the last two have consolidated now.
I guess the arcade teams (AM1, AM2) work this way too and no, it doesn't make sense either.
Shimmering and jaggies are a pet hate of mine and as games look better and better it's having a kind of uncanny valley effect on me where I find it more noticeable. It's clearly not a concern for Japanese game developers but I so wish the Yakuza games could tackle it, it distracts me because the rest of the game is so damn beautiful to behold.
Nice to see a tech analysis of Judgment, but I'd really love to see DF take a look at the Kiwami 2 PC port. It's the only place we've seen the Dragon Engine running at 60 (or higher if you have a high refresh rate display) and there's definitely some quirks that come with that. Also curious how other aspects stack up with the PS4 version.
Dark1x Any chance you guys do a video on Kiwami 2 for PC?
Dark1x Any chance you guys do a video on Kiwami 2 for PC?
This was honestly the best part of the new engine and I'll be sad to see it go, but I'm OK with believing that Kiryu specifically is just incapable of not destroying every piece of furniture he brushes up against.
Great video as always, thinking about maybe picking this up. Only briefly played Kwami so as a Yakuza outsider would I be missing out a lot of context by buying this? I know it's a new cast of characters but are there s lot of links/references to previous games ?
You can really tell that the Yakuza team is getting more comfortable with this engine. Their first go with the Dragon Engine, Yakuza 6, had some less than impressive performance and IQ on my base PS4.
Kiwami 2 felt like a lot of the performance issues were starting to be handled better, but still weren't great.
Judgment feels the smoothest performing (to me) so far. It also looks the best with some of the little additions they've made. I haven't yet tried Kiwami 2 on the PC but I might have to do that soon. Just thinking about seeing this engine in 60fps at 1080p native sounds nice right about now.
Kiwami 2 felt like a lot of the performance issues were starting to be handled better, but still weren't great.
Judgment feels the smoothest performing (to me) so far. It also looks the best with some of the little additions they've made. I haven't yet tried Kiwami 2 on the PC but I might have to do that soon. Just thinking about seeing this engine in 60fps at 1080p native sounds nice right about now.
Nah, you're one hundred percent fine. There's hardly any connections to other games, and you won't find anything confusing as a result.
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There's still shimmering here, the TAA implementation is not the highest quality (though it is a welcome addition).
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1080p can be really clean paired with the right AA (see Uncharted 4 as an example among many others). This game's TAA is just a bit on the low-end.
I thought pro uncharted was 1440p?
Or you just mean base console?
Nice video, I was already impressed to see SSR in Yakuza 0, but this is a whole new level. Looks amazing.
I like how fast the protagonist is, too. Even 0 in Heat Mode isn't that fluid.
I'll definitely miss the 60fps, though.
I like how fast the protagonist is, too. Even 0 in Heat Mode isn't that fluid.
I'll definitely miss the 60fps, though.
Th 1X wouldn't run this in 60 either due to the shitty CPU on both consoles.
