I almost posted that 2 months in dev time is very significant in speculation but I didnt in fear of looking stupid for not knowing anything about it lol.
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Digital Foundry: Hitman 3 PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S Comparison: An Xbox Advantage At 4K
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The new Hitman games have consistently impressed me with their visuals and performance. Glad to seer great results all around. I'll be picking this up on Series X in the future.
I know we're still in the cross gen phase, but I really hope the 60fps trend continues.
I know we're still in the cross gen phase, but I really hope the 60fps trend continues.
it depends on your console bias. if its on the opposing console of your choice, you cant notice the difference. if its better on your console, you can definitely notice the difference
im being facetious
That's such a weird ass double standard though that nobody holds any other console to.
Erm, no. Neither console has much more anything compared to the other in terms of performance - whether it's disk speed or GPU.
depends on distance to TV and biggest one being TV size. I mean if you are gaming at 4k on a 27 inch monitor.........eh, not really. But the bigger you go, the more noticeable a resolution difference would make.
This is like one of 2 or 3 games that have higher settings on XSX compared to PS5 out of many more that don't... and this thread is embarrassing already.
Both are going to have different games perform better on each.
Both are going to have different games perform better on each.
User Warned: Console wars
People are expecting native 4K for XSX and PS5 as well and most of the released games until now are dynamic 4K.
hehehe
They forgot to activate the hidden RDNA 3 features on PS5.
That's a little harsh. It seems to look and run well on all platforms, mostly hitting it's performance target, which is no small feat. Add to that IO having to fire almost half its staff after leaving SE and becoming independent, before fully staffing up again and I think it's enormously impressive that the game turned out this well. It doesn't seemed to have dipped in graphics or quality at all, while the studio yo-yoed down and up again during development, showing no signs of the turbulent years they went through. That they managed to not only regrow their studio, attain stability and release such a well polished and great looking title on all platforms, demonstrates exactly how talented they are.
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Xbox is just as fast......
What advantage did the PS5 have here in hitman? Not the resolution. So clearly it must be the faster loadi-....ohh never mind.
I dunno. Sony was screaming from the rooftops about the ssd. And I have a suspicion Xbox will be nearly as fast on there first party games, maybe like 1 second slower or something. While at the same time, series x can hit 4k no problem.
*digital only.
You forgot one of the new systems.
Good to hear.
When looking at hardware specs, there's no reason the PS5 should really ever outperform the Series X in multiplatform games. Hence why it was so surprising to see launch games not match that expectation. Moving forward, it's not unrealistic to expect the vast majority of multiplat games to continue to look better on Series X.
True, but I don't have a PS5. Not sure when it'll be back in stock.
I'll probably wait on this one for now.
I think the funniest thing about these threads is that 99% of us can't tell the visual difference from resolution. I'm not saying it's hard for us to tell, I'm say we CANNOT PHYSICALLY BE SHOWN THE DIFFERENCE.
That's because almost all of our primary Youtube watching devices have either a 1080P or 1440P panel. Or they're smartphones with tiny screens so it's hard to see how it would look on a big 4K TV.
The only three groups that can observe the resolution difference are:
It makes it funny when you see how upset people get about something they can't see.
That's because almost all of our primary Youtube watching devices have either a 1080P or 1440P panel. Or they're smartphones with tiny screens so it's hard to see how it would look on a big 4K TV.
The only three groups that can observe the resolution difference are:
- Those with a 4K monitor
- Those who watch these comparison videos on the Youtube app on their 4K TV
- Those who buy both versions of a game for some reason
It makes it funny when you see how upset people get about something they can't see.
You are not going to see advantages unless the developer uses it and since we have no 1 party games to compare you are just moving the goal post, lets wait and see before making this types of stantments.
I hope people realize also that this is running on next gen skus and not bc. Again what was stated before in previous df threads, the gen is still early.
Kinda surprised by those differences. That said, both versions are looking mighty fine. There's no need for pointless console war.
Enjoy the game. Hitman 3 looks incredible!
Enjoy the game. Hitman 3 looks incredible!
It's going to vary by game, but if the impact of tooling was true, it's likely that on average future games are going to look better on the Series vs the PS5. We won't know until we see what happens.
Probably to keep it locked at 60fps? But it;s weird that stuff like shadows are also of lower quality as well. I wonder if any issues came up during dev time.
Like I said, I'd rather have better resolution/graphics, rather than this SSD that doesn't even do much for the vast majority of games I'm going to play on the system.
Its nice that the load times are short on the 1 first party game a year I'll play though.
I think Sony's hardware priorities were out of whack this generation. They went extreme with the SSD and scarified elsewhere, and I question the advantage of that.
I was skeptical the improvements would be yhis soon too, but alex does believe they have improved already and some ITT think they will improve even further.
No reason to implement DRS bacause of one section on the XSX and if it won't stay at 4K for most time it's also not worth to implement on PS5.
Just an assumption, of course.
Then you can choose the XSX
You dont know if their priorites out of whack because you havent see their software build around it, SSD is not just for loading times.
If you dont have a ps5 yet and no idea when you will get one I would buy it on xbox if you really want to play it.
If youre cool with waiting you get the ps5 version for half the price or something.
Seem's to run great on everything, which is fantastic.
Content is king, so I would say Playstation. Double bonus if you have PSVR - Hitman VR seems really cool.
If you only own a PS4 though I would just be wary of load times. I owned Hitman 1 on PS4 and I dropped it because of those loooong load times.
Idk if a cross-gen third-party game is a great indication of the power of the SSD. Games built for PS5 specifically will take more advantage of it.
(I'm speaking generally and not XSX vs PS5 SSD speeds)
Content is king, so I would say Playstation. Double bonus if you have PSVR - Hitman VR seems really cool.
If you only own a PS4 though I would just be wary of load times. I owned Hitman 1 on PS4 and I dropped it because of those loooong load times.
Idk if a cross-gen third-party game is a great indication of the power of the SSD. Games built for PS5 specifically will take more advantage of it.
(I'm speaking generally and not XSX vs PS5 SSD speeds)
As a recent (June) 4K TV buyer, I have to say I notice the difference between native 4K and basically anything NOT native 4K. Mainly because I spend most of my time using performance modes over quality modes.
I know haha also i know is a cross-gen game, but looks like the work here was a lot better than in other cross-gen games and it notes on the XSX and PS5 versions.
also once you start watching things at a higher native resolution for a while, you will notice the difference. Especially if you go back to lower resolution monitor
Maybe with better antialiasing the differences are less visible but I was surprised by the gap in PQ between the 1800p and 4K mode in TLOU. It's quite substantial.
The difference between XSX and PS5 is very small. Since the lauch of next-gen you are are games are better on PS5 and games are better on XSX and it will be the same during all the generation.
SSD is about much more than loading times. It will probably take a while before we get games optimised around the SSD, but when we do we find out how significant or insignificant PS speed advantage is.
Sure, it is just interesting that this just happened in such a short time, the narrative changed now as you said, for obvious reasons.
Yes, interesting that they went after fixed resolutions this time. We may have seen higher resolution on ps5 if it was dynamic, and probably no framerate dips on XSX either. I guess they just wanted to have a mostly solid experience at launch, especially with so many versions, and the pandemic. And also VR version. Must been hard to get all in great shape at launch.
It's definitely not. As has been said many times, they have different hardware advantages and some games benefit from one platforms advantages more than others.
Event in this comparison, on a GPU heavy scene XSX drops to low/mid 50-s while PS5 maintains locked 60 with no DRS so there is a clear headroom there for PS5. just like with games performing better on PS5, don't make any conclusions.
The difference in graphics is so minimal its just a case of choosing which console exclusives you prefer.
Not really. All things equal you should see the X pull slightly ahead in most situations. Not a big deal but let's be realistic.
I think it would be a fascinating test for DF (or elsewhere) to test resolution, CB techniques or TAA implementation from normal living room viewing distances. Especially considering the growing number of claims from DF about their marginal differences.
It is not IOs fault since the ps5 also has lower quality shadows, it is not just resolution.
I'm not saying it's not noticeable in real life, it's just hard to present that difference to someone viewing a video comparison due to our primary Youtube/streaming video devices either having small screens or resolutions far lower than 4K.
I don't think it's that easy Play. It looks really good at 1800p and it's 60fps; the most important part IMO. I think you should still purchase it if you were going to on PS5 because you won't notice a difference, being that you are not comparing them under a microscope.
Hes not saying there is no difference, he's saying you can't see it on youtube.
Duh it's a last gen game, but not all engines are created equally and some things don't scale the way that you'd imagine then to. It's not as simple as clicking the "convert to 4k/60 ultra" button on both platforms