Digital Foundry: Hitman 3 PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S Comparison: An Xbox Advantage At 4K

[ThereAreFourNaan]

Just as we couldnt extrapolate long term trends from launch titles, we also can't reasonably assume this is now going to be normal for every game to have a split like this. They might, but it also might be down to how specific engines and games are designed as to whether they like XSX this much.

Just keep in mind so people don't get annoyed if future games are more even again.

 

[Tora]

I think 1800p vs 2160p is a tough one to tell, but it depends on the game and what AA is uses.

Sackboy runs at 1620p typically I think and I just assumed that it was somewhere between 1800p/2160p because it looked so clean. That's on a 65 inch screen even when I was literally 1ft away.

In any case, it's still great and not surprising considering that the X in theory is more powerful. Simple.

I think that these threads will always end up becoming toxic and a ultimately being pointless, I don't envy the guys at DF because if they trip up on one word, it can be interpreted as fanboy speak even though they're just supplying the facts.

I'd say I'm disappointed to hear Series S is 1080p/60, but it looks great so, who am i to complain.

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Treat it like a 1080p machine, that's what it realistically is. With such a powerful CPU, 1080/60 in as many games as possible is pretty sweet

The fact that they can't make a last gen game with extra bells and whistles hit native 2160p on the PS5 port is laughable to say the least.

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Tell me more, armchair dev

 

[henhowc]

3840*2160 = 8,294,400 pixels
3200*1800 = 5,760,000 pixels

5,760,000/8,294,400 = 69.4%

As a PS5 owner, I don't want to see people here claiming you can't see a 30% drop in pixel count on a 4k TV, unless you are a decent, decent distance away.

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What's a decent distance away though? I would guess most people with 55inch or larger tvs are probably 8+ ft away most of the time unless they live in a smaller apartment or something or their gaming setup isn't in their living room.

 

[TooBusyLookinGud]

10/12. 1800/2160 83%

Now all of a sudden a slightly better resolution seems to matter again.

Finally a game where XSX shows that extra GPU power.

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It always matters regardless of the narrative. People want their item of choice to be better than the other. It's human nature and it hasn't changed since NES vs Genesis and will not change next-gen either.

 

[Garrett 2U]

Really good showing across the board. I think this will become the standard in the future, based on the hardware differences. A real push for 60fps on all targets, with 4K on Series X, 1800p on PS5, and 1080p on Series S.

 

[uptownsoul]

Even at 1800p I expected PS5 to have frame rate troubles at the same field area. As a "Frame rate over Resolution" guy, I have to say I'm very pleased with PS5s results

 

[Nebuzel]

The drops in the Mendoza level were interesting, and I have to wonder if the PS5 not dropping there was due to the increased GPU clock speed? Stuff like that will probably be the most interesting thing over this generation, seeing which systems have minute advantages over certain areas and why. Also the Series S version looks pretty good. I think this is the first Series S game that really shows the power of the box

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Digital Foundry pretty much said it is probably because of the lower 3200x1800 resolution on PS5 that the small frame dip was cleaned up. They also said it probably wasn't worth dropping the resolution in that one map or utilizing dynamic resolution since it basically happened only in that one area in the brush and frame drops were extremely negligible and non-apparent in the gameplay elsewhere.

 

[Uzupedro]

Nice to see Xbox Series X hitting 4K60. Honestly, given the density of Hitman levels and how good this game already looks, it'd be interesting to see what these new consoles could pull off with something along the lines of DLSS. I mean, would you just end up with something like this playing at an even higher frame rate, or would devs manage to still become increasingly more ambitious in terms of detail and interactivity within environments? Either way, very exciting.

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With the jump in CPU a next-gen Hitman would be crazy even without a DLSS-like, IOI will be able to bring a lot of shit to the table in the future.
Unfortunately we will have to wait a while for it, fortunately it is because of 007!

 

[Deleted member 11008]

Series S version having performance parity with the X

 

[bevishead]

I believe 1600p-1800p will be a nice sweet spot for PS5 games and even Xbox Series X. Native 4K looks very nice but is costly. 1800p looks nearly as good as native 4k and would be more stable for many games.

 

[renoch]

Era after Digital Foundry gives an advantage on PS5 for 10 games :

"Meh... something seems wrong... probably just a bug"

Era after Digital Foundry gives an advantage on Xbox for 1 game :

"See... Xbox is the superior console as expected, now move away..."

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Ahh yes the well known era xbox bias 🙄

It's a good looking and enjoyable game on all consoles, can't we just be happy with that?

 

[Gamer @ Heart]

This series has such beautiful modern building design on top of the gorgeous lighting.

 

[brawndolicious]

You are right there

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No worries, it's probably going to be a mess quantifying the pixel count difference with the different DRS/TAA/checkerboarding/DLSS techniques we'll see this generation so it's kind of nice to have a game with a simple locked resolution.

 

[Iron Eddie]

Puts a smile on my face to see the little XSS still beast through with 60fps gameplay. Looks like a great game performance wise on all consoles. Crossing my fingers for more 1800P 60fps games when current gen only games come out.

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XSS still maintaining 60fps is amazing. You cant beat that at $300

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Really good showing across the board. I think this will become the standard in the future, based on the hardware differences. A real push for 60fps on all targets, with 4K on Series X, 1800p on PS5, and 1080p on Series S.

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This to me is the main seller, that they are FINALLY putting a priority on reaching beyond that silly 30 barrier for all the new consoles more seriously and not just driving and fighting games.

 

[Pryme]

I'd say I'm disappointed to hear Series S is 1080p/60, but it looks great so, who am i to complain.

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Disappointed a console made for 1080p displays is outputting at 1080p?

 

[Deleted member 437]

Still waiting for that ps5 ssd to show it's muscles.

Any day now.............

 

[digitalrelic]

I believe 1600p-1800p will be a nice sweet spot for PS5 games and even Xbox Series X. Native 4K looks very nice but is costly. 1800p looks nearly as good as native 4k and would be more stable for many games.

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Yes, moving forward I see the majority of real, true, next-gen looking games that were built for next-gen from the ground up to be running at sub-native 4K.

 

[Puroresu_kid]

All three versions looks clean as fuck.

Just glad we won't be getting those hot takes on the series x which we saw before. Too many posts were suggesting there was something amiss with the hardware.

 

[Deleted member 12352]

lol that title. DF must have been getting as nervous as some era posters clearly have been in these threads.

 

[Falus]

XSS still maintaining 60fps is amazing. You cant beat that at $300

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1080p60 for 300
1800p60 for 400
2160p60 for 500

pick your poison

 

[PianoBlack]

Just here for the Series S performance. I already have an X but really want to grab an S for my office, where I have a 1920x1200 monitor. The concept of the system is really growing on me as time goes by.

 

[Marano]

Also the more I see series x and s comparisons, the less I want the s.

 

[Shpeshal Nick]

I want to buy this game for the Series X but I own the first two on PlayStation. What to do, what to do.

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Not sure it would be worth ditching the content of the first 2 games for a resolution bump you most likely won't notice given you're not gonna be playing these games side by side.

 

[Nexus2049]

Disappointed a console made for 1080p displays is outputting at 1080p?

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I'm not actually disappointed. Coming from a PS4 Pro the resolution drop isn't something I'm fully used to yet, but I'm definitely loving the framerates so that's helping.

 

[tapedeck]

Era after Digital Foundry gives an advantage on PS5 for 10 games :

"Meh... something seems wrong... probably just a bug"

Era after Digital Foundry gives an advantage on Xbox for 1 game :

"See... Xbox is the superior console as expected, now move away..."

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Uhh theres been plenty of acknowledgment here that various PS5 games have outperformed Series X and that 'Cerny was right, yadda yadda'. This Hitman 3 performance gap is notable and certainly warrants discussion. We'll see if this is a trend due to devs getting more comfortable with the Xbox's GDK or just an outlier.

 

[tophu]

Still waiting for that ps5 ssd to show it's muscles.

Any day now.............

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can't watch the video right now, are loading times pretty much the same?

edit - nm, just saw the summary. half a second... heh.

 

[Puroresu_kid]

Still waiting for that ps5 ssd to show it's muscles.

Any day now.............

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Realistically how quick could it really go. 7 secs in this game which is blazing fast. Surely people can't believe a 50% increase on that will be the norm.

 

[DukeBlueBall]

I usually prefer locked framerate over resolution, but with VRR the call is harder.

 

[DreadfulOmen]

1800p is definitely noticeable when compared to 4k. It would suck if it becomes a trend, though. But it would mean me getting an Xbox faster than I already planned to.

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Get a xbox, because it'll probably be like this for majority of games.

 

[SAINT_]

damn, no 4k for the ps5 is kinda shitty. Hopefully it doesn't become a thing going forward.

 

[Puroresu_kid]

can't watch the video right now, are loading times pretty much the same?

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Yes PS5 like a tenth of a second quicker. Negligible.

 

[Diogo Arez]

Still waiting for that ps5 ssd to show it's muscles.

Any day now.............

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Uh Miles and Demon's Souls load in sub 3 seconds most of the time

 

[Dictator]

People may be making jokes about the tools getting better here - but I have Heard that build performance has indeed increased over time since launch on XSX. GPU Compiler and Stuff can be pretty important for GPU Performance!

 

[Aostia82]

I'd say I'm disappointed to hear Series S is 1080p/60, but it looks great so, who am i to complain.

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What Series S should be?
1080p and 60fps is what we should expect from this console imho

 

[Deleted member 437]

Uh Miles and Demon's Souls load in sub 3 seconds most of the time

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Thats nice.

I'd rather have better graphic for 99% of third party games than faster loading times for 2 first party games a year.

 

[Deleted member 46804]

1800vs4k this gen was something I didn't expect.

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Why? The spec difference is likely to manifest as a small resolution difference.

 

[Diogo Arez]

Thats nice.

I'd rather have better graphic for 99% of third party games than faster loading times for 2 first party games a year.

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"Better graphics" The difference between both consoles is so slim you won't notice it 99% of the time

 

[QuigleyMcShine]

Damn they all look clean as hell.

 

[Uzupedro]

Only now I noticed this while reading, if these results are maintained through the game it would be impressive, 60FPS on PS4 PRO?

Hitman 3 dispenses with all of this, delivering a flat 60fps performance level on all systems and with no need to choose between quality and performance modes. This time around, last-gen systems are pegged to 30fps instead, with the curious exception of PS4 Pro, which also offers what IO describes as a 1080p60 'frame interpolated' option.

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The push to 60fps does set the next-gen consoles apart, but PS4 Pro's curious 1080p60 mode is a fascinating outlier. We've not put a huge amount of time into it, but it works well in the Dubai stage, running almost flawlessly

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[score01]

Even at 1800p I expected PS5 to have frame rate troubles at the same field area. As a "Frame rate over Resolution" guy, I have to say I'm very pleased with PS5s results

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It would have been good to see how a dynamic 4K would have performed - and would have future proofed the game.

 

[Dizastah]

Good for all consoles. I'm still wondering if I should get this game though. Never played Hitman.

 

[Deleted member 45460]

People may be making jokes about the tools getting better here - but I have Heard that build performance has indeed increased over time since launch on XSX. GPU Compiler and Stuff can be pretty important for GPU Performance!

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Should be one hell of a generation, hoping 60fps stays the standard (with 120 whenever possible).

 

[CloseTalker]

People may be making jokes about the tools getting better here - but I have Heard that build performance has indeed increased over time since launch on XSX. GPU Compiler and Stuff can be pretty important for GPU Performance!

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you just want to watch this thread burn lol

 

[Marano]

wold that loading time be what it is going to be going forward or ps5 could have more optimization? ps5 has like 2x speed yet there is less of a second of difference.

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Some believe MS software solution, the velocity architecture helps it punch above its weight.

Also that it is a crossgen multiplat.

Probably a combination of both factors really.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

Still waiting for that ps5 ssd to show it's muscles.

Any day now.............

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I guess you missed the sub 2 second load times on Demons Souls and Miles?

The SSDs are great on all consoles but they are really only flexing to their potential on games designed around them.

The SSD playing Demons was an absolute game changer but of course no way to compare to Xbox.

 

[aevanhoe]

Was just a matter of time before the Series X starts to show the extra firepower. I still the PS5 will win out in certain one-off edge-cases, but the vast majority of cases will turn out more or less like this.

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They are the same in like 10 cases the one comes along and the conclusion is "the majority of cases will be like this". Based on what?

These consoles will preform the same throughout the generation, with one pulling ahead over the other depending on the game.

 

[Deleted member 11038]

I read Ps5 at 1080p 60 fps and thought wtf. Thankfully it's 1800p. It's not native 4k but is it really noticeable on a 4k tv?

 

[Belvedere]

Thats nice.

I'd rather have better graphic for 99% of third party games than faster loading times for 2 first party games a year.

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You're going to be disappointed when you check the receipts thus far.

 

[Estarossa]

Looks like the tools have matured. Moving forward I think we can expect another Xbone X and PS4 Pro level difference between the consoles.

 

[nexus]

Man, I really didn't play much of the first game or any of the second but seeing the levels in this makes me want to jump into it. Pretty sure I own the first game on PC so maybe I should start that one.