Nuts how when chief boots up a buncha live and GP codes were embedded. Buncha other easter eggs too and maybe even the current date for when halo infinite is.
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Digital Foundry: Halo Infinite E3 2019: A Taste Of Next-Gen Xbox Graphics?
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seems a bit silly to limit a discussion on how good a game looks based on how realistic it appears. halo infinite is obviously not going for photorealism, so why is it judged against games that are with how realistic it looks?
Actually laughed at some of the people comparing linear, 30fps games like Detroit become human to this and claiming they look better. I will trust DF and my own eyes over that bullshit
Gonna be ignoring a lot of these threads when the new consoles hit if this is a preview of what we can expect discourse wise
Gonna be ignoring a lot of these threads when the new consoles hit if this is a preview of what we can expect discourse wise
343i has been really insistent on 60fps for all things Halo. I wouldn't expect that to change here regardless of if it's an Xbox One, S, X or Scarlett
Not really impressed at all. Even knowing its 60fps doesnt really have me change my opinon. But i dont think it says much about what Anaconda can deliver, rather the game is not really intending to be a technical showcase on that level
I feel like its essentially a Breath of the wild situation since this is coming out on XB1 after all, and has to be run on that hardware
I feel like its essentially a Breath of the wild situation since this is coming out on XB1 after all, and has to be run on that hardware
Microsoft certainly has and probably will always have an up hill battle in Era.
Out of this I don't find this is so impressive. And this will be difficult to impress with cutscene next generation because the level is high for the best of the best current generation. I think show something else would have been a better option but I can understand they want to show it more at E3 2020.
If it maintains this fidelity in an open world, then it would be really impressive. The facial animations are subpar, imo, but there appears to be a ton of geometry there, and the lighting is beautiful.
I mean, people are comparing a more open Halo that may be open world for all we know which has to have dozens of enemies on screen at 60 fps at 4k to linear games that run at 30fps and 1080p. If we want to see the best stills, we need to wait for a next-gen only game that is less open.
I'm sure the graphics will be great regardless, but I'm not judging anything until we get real next gen gameplay.
Right I feel like we need to wait and see what the scope of this game really is.
I'm not looking forward to it. There's way too many people at each other's throats.
I wouldn't expect it to be representative of next-gen. It was being developed with Xbox One in mind first.
Nothing they've shown this far has screamed next gen either.
It'll look damn good at 4k60 tho
Nothing they've shown this far has screamed next gen either.
It'll look damn good at 4k60 tho
Infinite is being designed around Scarlett first, with a last gen port.
Infinite is still early - it's a year and a half out - and the scene is small and dark. The scene immediately following where the trailer ends is much more 'next gen'. You'll see a lot more of Infinite before Scarlett launches.
A trailer 18 months from release doesn't paint the full picture as to what the final game will look like.
That is indeed quite a problem in these threads as we are not talking about the objective points that Alex pointed out in his video but a "I think it looks current gen" which is completely subjective.
It's like arguing Mario Kart looks better than Gran Turismo Sport because you prefer the art style of Mario Kart. You can of course make that argument as it is subjective but this doesn't mean that technically GTS is not way more advanced in many ways, objectively.
Yes, it can look worse, the same or better. I think it will look mostly the same, maybe with a framecap to 30 fps in cutscenes like Halo 5 or VRR if the TV supports it. (I hope this becomes more common next gen).
What im really curious to see is gameplay outside cutscenes, thats where the real meat is.
Once they actually show an open world with dozens of enemies on screen running at 4K/60fps I'm sure the tone of the conversation will shift. You can't really ask people to be blown away by something they have to imagine. If Sony debuted Horizon 2 with a short clip of Aloy talking to a robot in a small brown cave, you'd probably see a similar reaction.
What impressed me most was the sheer complexity of the geometry and the quality of the textures.
I don't believe it is, I'm pretty sure it's being made for Xbox One first.
is sony did that the talk on resetera would be that its more realistic looking than real life. People would trip over themselves to gush over the magnificence of that reveal. It would be hailed as the greatest leap in graphics ever
Flips both ways to a degree. As you can see here. Some are proclaiming exactly what you said...and if we are talking pure visual fidelity, I find that just as silly.
Sony isn't immune to criticism though. Days Gone got shit on a lot and it's a big AAA first party exclusive.
I'm not really impressed, will wait to see gameplay before I judge but there was nothing in that trailer that screamed "next gen" to me. I got more next gen vibes from watching Death Stranding trailer recently and the CyberPunk 2077 gameplay vid from last year. Maybe it's due to the fact that they aren't aiming to make this a technical showpiece just yet or maybe it's the fact it's a cross gen game, who knows.
Edit: Forgot about TLOU2, that wowed me more graphically than this Halo Infinite E3 trailer. I don't know how Naughty Dog does it.
Edit: Forgot about TLOU2, that wowed me more graphically than this Halo Infinite E3 trailer. I don't know how Naughty Dog does it.
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Numerous examples of Sony being criticized on this forum, read any thread about crossplay for a start. Y'all gotta let go of the victim complex.
Probably representative of what initial cross gen titles will achieve. True heavy hitters designed soley for the new consoles will be much more impressive
This sort of stuff doesn't help at all. You can't expect people to be blown away on any next gen reveal based on technical details. When 343i show the big stuff, it will be recognized.
Looks good and they still have a lot of time to work on it. Still need to say real gameplay, i do not trust E3 in engine demo's or gameplay. But it looks impressive and remember every beginning of a console the games look like a mix of current and next gen. Can not wait to see what they do two years into next gen.
Holy fuck, I forget how good Death Stranding looks at times. I can't believe I get to play it in a few months 😆If you think that, fine.
But are you going to look at this
and tell me it looks as good as this?
Honestly, critique that Halo footage and tell me you think the skin/animation/facial detail is phenomenal let alone close to Death Stranding.
Both sets of footage are from cutscenes and the difference is still staggering, and you can say "it's just cutscenes!" all you want but both are supposedly in-engine so it's not unfair to compare them.
I'm even willing to say Halo doesn't look as good but since it's 60fps it's acceptable that it took a hit graphically, fair enough.
But I defy anyone, based on the footage we have so far, to say DS looks worse, let alone that Halo looks better.
Also the talk of 'waxy' looking skin is bullshit, Mass Effect has waxy skin, Death Stranding doesn't.
Looks very good, I like art direction, very similar to classic halo and chief armor is looking very similar to the ones in halo wars 2, so looks cool! But I really prefer jerome's armor textures or halo 3 2006 trailer armor textures.
I thought it looked good but compared to the the trailer last year which it wasn't as impressive because the environment was very small and enclosed. I'm not too fussed about how it looks anyway as I'm sure the games that were designed from the ground up for the next consoles will be taking better advantage of the power available.
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And I dont fully understand why?
They pretty much 180'd themselves from the beginning of the generation shenanigans.....they have given Gamers what Gamers wanted at pretty much every turn....beyond having an Uncharted, God of War or Last of Us game. They have done pretty much everything right since about mid-gen....Id think people would forget the bias and just give respect where respect is due.
Looking from a non-biased perspective the negativity towards Microsoft and Microsoft IP is staggering even when the IP dont deserve the hate(Crackdown 3 got what it deserved). People keep telling me NOT to play that narrative but from what ive seen the bias on ERA is clear as day Sony can do no evil, Microsoft can do nothing right is the view a good percentage of the posters have. Go into any MS thread regardless of what its about...and half the first page is some random hate, go into a Sony thread and the first 3 pages are dick sucking.
And now we have this thread where people are telling me the Halo Infinite graphics look current gen....yet from a technical perspective there is no game current gen anywhere near Halo infinte.
Not liking the art style is fine....cant force an artstyle down someones throat.....but technically speak this is very very impressive footage....ohh but its Microsoft, so no its actually trash.
