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Digital Foundry: Ghost of Tsushima: PS4 vs PS4 Pro Comparison + Performance Testing!
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Curious to watch. I know Jeff Gerstmann was really down on the performance, but yesterday's DF vid seemed to indicate that it was fine on the pro.
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TL;DW
- Pro has 'quality' and 'performance' modes. Performance mode runs at 1080p and irons out any dips to give a locked 30 FPS. (it doesn't unlock FPS beyond 30)
- Quality mode: 1800p via CB rendering. Performance mode: native 1080p (including all UI, which also drops to 1080p)
- Base PS4 runs at native 1080p and visually the same as Pro's 'performance' mode in terms of visuals.
- Base PS4 runs worse than PS4 Pro's "quality mode".
- More frequent stretches of 28~29 FPS during combat and some strenuous areas. However traversal runs at 30 FPS.
- "Smoother than the Witcher 3 and any recent Assassins Creed game".
- DF think engine streaming etc is good and implies the CPU end of the engine is sorted, any shortcoming might be from the GPU end.
- Hierarchy: Base PS4 is the worst, PS4 Quality is better with some drops and PS4 Performance is best with a rock solid 30 FPS.
- DF praises the exceptionally fast loading. Takes 6~8 seconds in fast traveling or returning from death.
- DF also theorizes about potential PS5 enhancements: Native 4K, 60 FPS etc.
- In comparison to E3 2018 video, John thinks beyond some detail on the ground appearing maybe slightly higher in the E3 demo, other assets like wind, animations etc look the same. They have not found the exact location in the game (yet) to do 1 : 1 comparison.
- Pro has 'quality' and 'performance' modes. Performance mode runs at 1080p and irons out any dips to give a locked 30 FPS. (it doesn't unlock FPS beyond 30)
- Quality mode: 1800p via CB rendering. Performance mode: native 1080p (including all UI, which also drops to 1080p)
- Base PS4 runs at native 1080p and visually the same as Pro's 'performance' mode in terms of visuals.
- Base PS4 runs worse than PS4 Pro's "quality mode".
- More frequent stretches of 28~29 FPS during combat and some strenuous areas. However traversal runs at 30 FPS.
- "Smoother than the Witcher 3 and any recent Assassins Creed game".
- DF think engine streaming etc is good and implies the CPU end of the engine is sorted, any shortcoming might be from the GPU end.
- Hierarchy: Base PS4 is the worst, PS4 Quality is better with some drops and PS4 Performance is best with a rock solid 30 FPS.
- DF praises the exceptionally fast loading. Takes 6~8 seconds in fast traveling or returning from death.
- DF also theorizes about potential PS5 enhancements: Native 4K, 60 FPS etc.
- In comparison to E3 2018 video, John thinks beyond some detail on the ground appearing maybe slightly higher in the E3 demo, other assets like wind, animations etc look the same. They have not found the exact location in the game (yet) to do 1 : 1 comparison.
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So Pro quality and Performance are both 30 FPS, the only difference is some pretty minor hiccups in quality? That doesn't sound like it's worth the massive drop in resolution
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Yes. Just like in Horizon, where Performance-Mode was just there to iron out dips below 30fps.
In both titles I would have prefered an unlocked fps option just like in Killzone.
With far superior hardware, why not?
Even if it can't provide native 4K somehow, 60 fps are a given since the CPU will be able to keep up.
Maybe not 4K60 but they could offer a lower res 60fps mode if they want to
It is written awkwardly, I am certain they meant Pro Performance is better than Pro Quality which is better than Base PS4
It can easily run at 4k native 60fps on PS5. It depends on if SP built their engine to work at 60fps though.
Just based on the ps4 version, because the frames aren't unlocked in performance mode. They might do it for ps5 but there's no indication if that being the case, so far.
Wouldn't hold my breath for that one, 1080p/60 probably but 4K 60 is probably not gonna happen "for free", in the sense that the game scales up without any extra work.
They might have locked the framerate on purpose, but sure. In any case, there should be power to spare for a 60 fps version on PS5.
The PS5 wouild be more than cabaple of running it at 60. Its a matter whtehr they will support it
I believe in you Saiyaman, we can do it.
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No no, sorry about the confusing arrows, it's in order of worst to best performing versions.
Sounds like Sucker Punch is squeezing every last drop out of the console for the last big game of the generation.
I'm going to say this, the PS4 pro is one of the worst consoles ever. It's a damn shame they could make this game 60 FPS on the pro at least.
Just accept that it is not going to happen for consoles. As long as it's stable it doesn't impact the gameplay anyway.
I think quality mode also has other enhancements? Haven't watched the DF video yet but I saw another comparison video yesterday where bloom seemed to be more pronounced in quality mode
Doesn't seem like. DF video says resolution is essentially the only difference
the bombcast was really weird
jeff says it's 'framey but then Brad and other Jeff immediately disagree. Then both other Jeff and Brad talk about how it's fairly boring and checkbox 'open world-ass open world' , but then proceed to spend 20 minutes talking about how much they enjoy being in the world, and the combat being fun etc (mostly Brad) - as though they actually really liked it
I was so confused
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I had the same reaction. They said they didn't like it that much, but then kept going on and on about things they liked about it.
For the record, I highly doubt this won't be uncapped to 60 with VRR and dynamic resolution for the PS5.
Doesn't necessarily mean they will. Like I said, I highly doubt it'll happen, we will see in a few months.
Yeah dont know what is up with that, unless the patch yesterday did some good.
Happy to see the base PS4 is more or less a stable 30. Can't justify a Pro with the PS5 on the horizon.
It should ! The cpu is way more powerful and the same for the gpu
No, it can't. I don't think people realise just how much power is required for native 4K60fps in current gen games. This game runs at 1800p with CB and 30fps on a Pro. And while the PS5 is easily 3x faster than a Pro that's still not enough for native 4k60fps in this game. I'm confident it can do 4K 60fps with CB though.
I don't know anything about Tech, but couldn't the Reason for that be the 50 Million Particles like Leaves etc. that are constantly flying through the World? I imagine that is quite demanding.
