there probably were some changes when they took the game from CC2 and made it internally. that probably had an effect
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Digital Foundry: Final Fantasy 7 Remake - Tech Review - Beautiful, But Not Flawless
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This is what I think as well. Every game is different and sure the hardware is getting old, but there are plenty of games doing more (interactive and larger environments etc) that don't suffer from these issues.
Sure but what I see a bit of isn't pop-in, it is textures not loading in at all, or textures that do load look really low-res.
It is also meshes that look like the lowest res version of an asset as if the LOD is broken.
In those games to do the higher quality assets eventually load? And they are just slow to appear? haven't played either.
Hopefully it is a bug but they would have been really aware of it as entire cut scenes at times frame around these problem assets.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but from what I remember Fallen Order only had pop in with the textures loading in slow but eventually showing up.
This photo was taken from the FF7:R facebook page and the textures here appear pretty low-quality here, even if some of the blurriness is because of bokeh-effect
yeah sometimes Fallen Order also didn't load textures and geometry either at all or for several seconds, or it didn't load certain shaders right away. Perhaps a caching issue
I'm honestly kind of amazed that KH3, as far as I can remember, doesn't have any pop-in problems.
Maybe the PS4 is draw call limited compared to DX12? My understanding is that the PS4 doesn't use Vulkan/DX12, and instead uses a custom API. Since it is a UE4 game, they probably started the development on PC (I think I remember reading that this is a normal practice for many console games, even outside of UE4), then they "fitted" it down to the target system, and the result is the product of the necessary cut backs due to less available system resources / different API. Just my guess.
It'll be interesting to see how the PC version does next year. Sometimes fast storage or enabling the shader cache on PC can help
Well the game is out digital tonight in Australia. If there's no patch when I wake up tomorrow Ill just play it as is. So bummed because I bought a PS4 Pro just for this game because I was so excited for it. Feel like a fool and may as well just have played it on PS4 and then again on the PS5 in proper graphics.
Everything seems to be pointing at it not being an hardware limit or a bug. It's a matter of budget constraint and limited time for the development. The game has been rushed out without much optimization in these regards. If you play the game you know it's not just a matter of texture here and there but also geometry and even game design (extremely linear areas, rushed chapters, raw sidequests, dull moments). This is the result of a once more troubled development for a main FF. Regardless the game is still charming and worth checking, but it's definitely not a great looker or game to compare graphically with any other modern known triple AAA title around, including other Square Enix titles... just to say, KH3 is on another level in overall polishing and a more refined experience both graphically and gameplay.
Edit. the closest comparison I can make here it's saying that ff7 remake is closer to Lightning Returns than FFXIII. The difference between a more polished FF with a greater budget on the same console vs another one running on the same engine and console but on a more limited budget and time.
Back in my day we played FFVI and tons of other JRPGs at 60fps.
I honesly don't believe this. The game comes on two discs, that's over 90 gb of data, at launch (no patches or DLC) and without a multiplayer mode. I haven't seen anything in this game that is so out there that the PS4 couldn't handle it. Like, at all. Also, the game's been in development for over 5 years, it wasn't rushed. Something doesn't add up here.
That would be CyberConnect2, another developer who was initially working on Remake. Square-Enix took over and it became an in-house project.
Yeah the game had plenty of development time so that's no excuse. I wouldn't put it past square that it won't be fixed day one . Hopefully down the road so I might wait for that.
In my Gears 4 screenshots in the previous page, the textures never load. It also happened more frequently when running various settings at max, so I'm guessing I'm being resource-starved (my 780 GPU running out of VRAM most likely).
I do not know if this is the same issue with FF 7 because my Gears 4 texture problems was random. I could boot up the game and see character textures just fine, then on a second reboot, high quality character textures would stop loading in.
i am probably selling my copy and will rebuy until/if it is fixed. i just cant deal with it (stopped in chapter 8 a week ago).
shame that there is zero communication from square. i still have a tiny bit of hope left for a d1 patch but lets be honest: its not coming.
shame that there is zero communication from square. i still have a tiny bit of hope left for a d1 patch but lets be honest: its not coming.
Except Outer Worlds and Jedi Fallen Order are on Xbox One as well as the latter is rather egregious when it comes to pop-in on said platform.
When do day 1 patches usually drop?
Edit: I should say, when do meta-data stuffs show up... if that's a thing...
did you (or john or richard) try to get a statement from square about the texture issue. its so weird that there is 100% radio silence.
It's such a shame that one can't just appreciate the beauty and art of FFVIIR, but that there has to be one big downside: Being the awful textures and low detail environments in some chapters. It's so strange after the game looked so polished and near flawless in the demo and early sections of the game.
Since the game is offically now out, have there been any news on a patch that might fix or improve some of the low detail issues?
Since the game is offically now out, have there been any news on a patch that might fix or improve some of the low detail issues?
Well apparently someone in the main office tested positive for covid 19 so everyone was sent home. Might have disrupted any progress on patch for this game if their indeed was one.
You people are crazy, with all due respect. Got to chapter 3 during the day. Everything looks wonderful. The infamous doors and sink are such a small thing lol. The slums have so much character and are so alive.
this is really one of the most beautiful games ever made. Lighting looks wonderful even during the day. Maybe it's my HDR? Regardless, I can't believe the hundreds of posts on this insignificant issue. Maybe it gets worse later?
this is really one of the most beautiful games ever made. Lighting looks wonderful even during the day. Maybe it's my HDR? Regardless, I can't believe the hundreds of posts on this insignificant issue. Maybe it gets worse later?
I don't know. A low resolution door thrown in my face goes a long way to taking me out of the game and remembering it's a video game. It bothers me a lot.
I was kinda stressed out that there wasn't a day 1 patch. But if this is as bad as it gets, I can overlook it or wait for as long as it takes. Beautiful game.
I'm right at the part of Cloud's appartment door texture, and it looked bizarre.
But the next scene, everything is gorgeous again. Weirdly uneven.
But the next scene, everything is gorgeous again. Weirdly uneven.
This photo was taken from the FF7:R facebook page and the textures here appear pretty low-quality here, even if some of the blurriness is because of bokeh-effect
The character model almost looks like it was pasted on a low grade backdrop. This looks extremely out of place.
It is great you feel this way and it didn't effect your play through. But it is much more than just a door and a sink, in ch03 there so many assets like that.
There are lots of very low res 3d meshes all over as well as texture issues. Door handles, junk piles, poor looking npc models, unfinished floor textures that the game constantly frames cut scenes around on a side mission.
The issue is everywhere, if you didn't notice it, great but it really stood out to me. Especially after the quality of presentation in the opening chapters and the quality of the character models.
I'm ~25 hours in, and this really is one of the most visually inconsistent games I've ever played.
Some sections look incredible. Other areas look like they're from a low budget PS3 game. Some environment textures take a while to load in, and others are just permanently at a PS2-level state. The models for the main characters look incredible, while most of the NPC's look worse than those of GTA V. And they're repeated everywhere too, even within the same small towns. I'm not someone who usually would even notice this kind of stuff, but it's pretty blatant.
And the environments aren't particularly expansive either, so I'm not sure what happened.
Some sections look incredible. Other areas look like they're from a low budget PS3 game. Some environment textures take a while to load in, and others are just permanently at a PS2-level state. The models for the main characters look incredible, while most of the NPC's look worse than those of GTA V. And they're repeated everywhere too, even within the same small towns. I'm not someone who usually would even notice this kind of stuff, but it's pretty blatant.
And the environments aren't particularly expansive either, so I'm not sure what happened.
Is the patch to correct textures up or not yet? I thought it was a day one patch.
I shared similar thoughts until chapter 8. It didn't affect my enjoyment that much but it was distracting.
As far as I know the PS4 installs the content of the disc, and doesn't stream from it so there's no data on the play disc that is used beyond the authorization when booting the game?
Could there have been some late development issue and that 15gb+ of data missing be the higher resolution versions of these textures?
Please let me know if I'm wrong on anything.
Edit: Disregard.
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Game has been out for a day, no patch. It probably doesn't exist.
Ooooh, I heard something about Chapter 2 being inaccessible during an install. Weird that they did it like that, and not just install the disc right away.
Well, so much for that idea.
Yes and no one else heard this my man, there's people with the same level of connections as her asking her what she's on about.
Pretty good reviewer, had some horrible takes when it came to Langdon's qanon and anti metoo bs but usually good about everything else.