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Digital Foundry: Final Fantasy 7 Remake: E3 2019 Demo vs Original Graphics Comparison!
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They say in the video themselves that it's a ridiculous comparison to make. But it's a way to highlight the advancements in the last 22.
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Interesting enough, they mention all footage from SE is native 1080p at the moment. But the videos are encoded at 30 FPS so not sure if they're going for a 1080p/60 FPS thing ala KH3 or if it's base PS4 (or if the game is graphically intensive enough that even a Pro can manage 1080p/30 FPS only).
Wait are they claiming that the cutscene at the beginning of the trailer of the Midgar zoom out was in-engine?? 🤔
a) I'm glad they're also putting the ps3 realtime demo on for comparison with the remake and the prerendered and realtime PS1 game. it's kind of a fun midpoint .
b) They also note the high quality trailer is framemanipulated badly to 24fps. The frameskipping/framedoubling drove me crazy in the high quality download from Gamersyde.
c) I just noticed for the first time that the opening pullback from aerith in the PS1 FMV is a combination of several different environments with 2D compositing. Notice how the theatre district moves oddly against the archway and just fades out?
b) They also note the high quality trailer is framemanipulated badly to 24fps. The frameskipping/framedoubling drove me crazy in the high quality download from Gamersyde.
c) I just noticed for the first time that the opening pullback from aerith in the PS1 FMV is a combination of several different environments with 2D compositing. Notice how the theatre district moves oddly against the archway and just fades out?
I'm amused he didn't notice the Aerith opening was full-on CGI.
Early code and all, but 1080p on a PS4 Pro and struggling to reach 30fps (according to gameplay impressions) doesn't bode well for slim users. Will be dynamic 900p~ or something I guess.
Early code and all, but 1080p on a PS4 Pro and struggling to reach 30fps (according to gameplay impressions) doesn't bode well for slim users. Will be dynamic 900p~ or something I guess.
Yea, why wouldn't it be? Would be a pain making that in an entirely different program, I believe all the cutscenes are being shot in engine.
Is it running real-time though? Probably not.
FFXV should have been 900p too like it was in Duscae, the obsession over 1080p is why FFXV's lighting is flatter, bye bye cloud shadows. i will forever be mad about this.
It's not in-game or in-engine. It's CGI. The quality of Aerith's hair bares no resemblance to her in-game model.
I mean...Square Enix literally has a studio for that exact purpose that still does quite a bit of work for their modern titles, like nearly an hour's worth of the cutscenes in KH3 are CGI:
It's not in-game or in-engine. It's CGI. The quality of Aerith's hair bares no resemblance to her in-game model.
Seems like such a huge waste of time to keep making these CGI scenes.
I mean, considering the scale of the first scene in the game and the fact that in the original it was pre-rendered, seems fitting for that to be pre-rendered here too. Like at most 10% of the cinematics will be pre-rendered CGI.
Ohh yikes, didn't think devs still did that nowadays.
Well they did better in this title matching the feel of it in game-play at least.
I mean most devs don't. And some of Square's teams have decided against it. Tabata wanted FFXV to have as little CGI as possible since real time rendering is way less limiting than it used to be. An hour's worth of CGI in KH3 is still a small amount considering the other 10 hrs of cutscenes are rendered in real time.
Yeah, they want to wow people as much as possible just like back in 1997. Makes sense that they would use it... especially for the intro.
It's odd, he describes it as if it's realtime at the start, then at the end acknowledges twice that it's possibly not, specifically stating the post effect motion blur is superior to the in-game cutscenes.
Apparently the show floor demo was unlocked, and varied between close to 60 and mid 20s depending on the scene.
The behind close doors demo was locked to 30 and noticeably smoother as a result, suggesting the floor build was perhaps an earlier one.
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A huge waste of time would be modeling the whole city just for that ingame shot.
By using CGI they can cut a lot of corners
If you think this will be PlayStation exclusive, and not timed, then good luck to you, lol.
Find me any time, any place it's been said exclusive. In fact, it's been mentioned each time that it's "first" on PlayStation.
Regardless, even if it comes to PC, I have a 2080ti, I'm golden. And if for some insane and not going to happen because they would go back on their word reason it goes exclusive, I still have a ps4. I just don't care for it. So I'm still set.
Calm down, dears :)
Find me any time, any place it's been said exclusive. In fact, it's been mentioned each time that it's "first" on PlayStation.
Regardless, even if it comes to PC, I have a 2080ti, I'm golden. And if for some insane and not going to happen because they would go back on their word reason it goes exclusive, I still have a ps4. I just don't care for it. So I'm still set.
Calm down, dears :)
Assuming this game does eventually come to other consoles/PC, I really hope that DF gives it the same breakdown treatment as they did FF15. Those breakdowns were completely awesome.
I can see why you think this. But towards the end of the video (or middle? I forget) they kinda imply that it's not necessarily real-time. Though they do heavily imply that the scene is "in-engine", maybe similar to how some of FFXV's cutscenes were "in-engine" but not rendered "real-time". Though not sure how they would know that.
The Midgar pan-out did not seem real-time or even in-engine to me - it appeared to be Visual Works CGI. It just seemed too good.
Though I will say that I like Aerith's in-game model much more than her CGI model.
I would love that they did CGI for the parts that where CGI in the original. Keeps it authentic.