No. Just a 10h trial. I gave it a go on ps5( had subbed for a month to play fallen order) looked good, crisp, but didn't feel a generation jump. I guess there's a lot of room for improvement, specially in real gameplay, that usually means a far lateral camera. Replays may look great with that hair, but I'd love to see the improvements when playing
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Digital Foundry | FIFA 21: PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S - The Next-Gen Difference Tested ; Hair analysis
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The 10 hour trial is, but no. Not yet. Not until a few months before the next game.
For a console primarily built for 1080p TVs, vs one that's built for 4K TVs, cranking up the settings while having a lower resolution is the approach most devs will take.
That's what DF says in their video, but it's pretty clearly lower resolution in this video. Weird.
Okay I guess this thread is a good enough place for me to ask: I'm not very familiar with sports games, but am interested in either the new NBA or FIFA. Whats the consensus on these franchises? I get obviously different sports so different tastes, but, any input is appreciated.
Possible that cutscenes can render at 4K/30 but gameplay is running at 1080p/60.
Dictator do you know why your findings differ from the comparison I posted above?
Im not football guy... but that is fucking impressive to say the least.
Single player games with higher level of details with that engine will just blow people's mind.
Single player games with higher level of details with that engine will just blow people's mind.
if true, it just confirms what we already know. The series S is a little monster.
These are all some very nice looking games, but it's one of those things where the visual impact of what you're seeing is only felt in the replays and photo features.
I've never played one of these games before, but it seems like the goal here is to recreate a television broadcast on screen, and they've reached the limits to that approach?
I've never played one of these games before, but it seems like the goal here is to recreate a television broadcast on screen, and they've reached the limits to that approach?
You've always gotten CG hair :)
You mean it is beginning to look prerendered. Indeed it is, because it is now all moving more freely thanks to fibermesh and being strand-based. Sure, transmapped still looks more realistic (and generally was is used in prerendered stuff), but it is more taxing on GPU memory, and thus, not as useful in real-time.
Exhibit A.
Transmapped.
Strand.
Top looks more real. Bottom would animate better and more efficiently.
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Not sure how I feel about the video, yeah it is some nice "hair tech", but I don't know, video is supposed to be about FIFA 21 next gen version and it's only focus is basically the (impressie) hair tech of the new Frostbite version? They should at least show how bad most players look and not show 2-3 impressive players which EA focused all their intention on. It could be a "sponsored by EA" video, for showcasing the hair tech. Again I will never suggest DF getting paid and failing to mention it, not at all, they are doing a great job and I get the focus on the hair tech, because there is nothing much to talk about aside from that. But no words about lighting for the stadium, controls, other changes or non changes, etc. Maybe I wouldn't complain if the video title would be "Look at EA Sport new hair tech" or something like that. If you don't play with Cavani, Messi, Neymar, etc. but rather a less popular team that plays in EL or CL most characters still look bad and don't feature any new hair tech at all. If you watch this video, you could think, that EA put that much effort into most or every player on the pitch, which is far from the truth.
Well while the hair looks an improvement over the past it's still not realistic. Actually it's even more floating than a girl's long light hair floating under water. They should have limited it to more weights and some directions to control it and with that it not only will look more realistic, but it will have less impact on the GPU and even allow them to get even more hair density like that.
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Frostbite Hair Rendering and Simulation
An in-depth view into one area of Frostbite's research: hair rendering and simulation.
www.ea.com
The sarcasm is misplaced a bit here as it will actually be interesting to see what CDPR will do with the hair rendering in the upcoming TW3 next gen version.
😮😮😮 That looks just... Wow.
Is the game worth it? Does it has Smart Delivery? I might just buy it.
Don't tell me it can be misinterpreted as the people's dildo.......
Fifa is never worth it if you ask me, but yes it has Smart Delivery
I was thinking about how a new one will come out in the next 9 months. But gotta admit that looks fucking fantastic. I'm impressed.
Often the case with new tech, effects are too much. The main problem is the hairs get wet pretty quickly (they often started the game with wet hair) and here, the air are dry.
Otherwise, it's really not a big jump like we saw the last gen upgrade (and the one we saw with NBA 2k). But an annual franchise with COVID, not simple.
Yes, and should be $23.99 if you have game pass ultimate as you get theEA access discount on top. At least it does in the UK.
Yes and if you play Before January, you get Davic Beckham for free.
It's right there in the DF video in the OP.
Either the video you've posted got it wrong, or it's been patched since.
This is amazing. Glad next gen consoles are capable of this!
I would like to give a shout out to Insomniac's hair implementation in Spiderman PS5. Looks great as well!
Do you have game pass ultimate? You can play a 10 trial with EA Play
It's as worth as any FIFA in the past few years (as it's pretty much the same game from the past 5 years), so the value is what you give it.
No Smart Delivery per se, but the last-gen versions upgrade for free to next gen versions with EA's own program. You have a 10 hour trial with EA Play, if you have that.
Although the hair is impressive, they really really need to up the fidelity of the other assets such as the stadium, crowds, linesmen, etc. They really break the immersion of the high fidelity models during the game. Also replay FPS at 30 is a fucking joke. And give a 120FPS mode for crying out loud.
Absolutely insane.
Yeah it flows too much so it's not completely perfect and realistic but still a massive, massive jump over the mostly static meshes we still see today. Already looks nuts, with continuing improvement it's going to pass that uncanny valley stage.
Hope we see this in other Frostbite games moving forward too.
Yeah it flows too much so it's not completely perfect and realistic but still a massive, massive jump over the mostly static meshes we still see today. Already looks nuts, with continuing improvement it's going to pass that uncanny valley stage.
Hope we see this in other Frostbite games moving forward too.
That hair tech is insane! If it's not used on the next Dragon Age and Mass Effect I'll be hella disappointed.
I don't know why but this really pisses me off. It is so deceiving to showcase these graphics when in reality when you play it doesn't actually look like that. Like Alex said, it is the interludes and it's 30fps. Once the camera is pulled back the game really does not look great visually. Sharp lines, everything is so square, and the crowds still look static and not very realistic.
Oh yes, it has been looking like that since FIFA 17, when they changed to Frostbite. And it has gotten way better.
I could have been a recent update that changed it to native 4k, but it clearly looks 1080p in the older videos.