[Digital Foundry] Elden Ring performance: what to expect on PS5, Series X/S and PC (no video yet)

Brodo Baggins · Feb 24, 2022

derFeef said:
Oh come on. Especially in a game like this you don't want crashes. It's kinda mind-boggling people find it acceptable just because "it is a huge game". I wonder if it would be the same defence if it would be a Ubi game.

It's pretty common for games to have some crashing issues on release day. I have had several crashes in Horizon and Pokemon Legends Arceus recently. It sucks but it is what it is.

The more concerning part is the frequent micro-stutters, that can really take me out of being immersed in a game. I bought a copy on GMG a long time ago for a big discount, but if it gets really intolerable I may have to switch over to console. Alternatively, may end up switching back to Horizon for a bit to wait for a performance patch if it is too bad.

Disco Infernal · Feb 24, 2022

The ACG video looks like what happens when an online game is struggling to make a connection.

derFeef · Feb 24, 2022

Jakenbakin said:
"Especially in a game like this"? Souls games autosave like constantly. Crashes suck and I hate when people downplay them because I hate losing progress any time it happens, but this is one series where the crashes actually WON'T lose you a lot of progress.

I meant because you are sucked into this world and always on the edge, being thrown out, ouit of nowhere is distracting.
(Sorry should have elaborated)

CrazyHal · Feb 24, 2022

Dio said:
huh, according to PCGamer, the day one patch actually helped a lot:

Wtf is going on with this port!? There's so much conflicting information!

Jakenbakin · Feb 24, 2022

derFeef said:
I meant because you are sucked into this world and always on the edge, being thrown out, ouit of nowhere is distracting.
(Sorry should have elaborated)

Fair enough. I also considered afterwards how pissed off I would be if I had a crash during a tense fight, that would be a nightmare. Wasn't refuting that crashes suck, just wanted that elaboration which you provided lol.

Pocky4Th3Win · Feb 24, 2022

Dio said:
huh, according to PCGamer, the day one patch actually helped a lot:

Does anyone actually take PC Gamer seriously? They lack the basic understanding of PC Gaming most of the time and have terrible takes.

TooBusyLookinGud · Feb 24, 2022

Disco Infernal said:
The ACG video looks like what happens when an online game is struggling to make a connection.

Yeah, I agree. I asked earlier if there were any offline experiences with the game.

Stygian · Feb 24, 2022

Bucca said:
As I said in the other thread, straight up embarrassing, as are the people hand waving this because "VRR displays".

Exactly. It's fucking stupid to expect people to buy brand new tvs with a still new and niche feature to make up for devs who can't or won't optimize their games properly.
Especially when people like me have 4k sets with hdr and dolby vision and great picture quality.
I'm not against the idea of vrr, I think it's a good thing. But I dont want it to be used it as a crutch when devs could avoid framerate issues in the first place.
And From while absolutely brilliant at game design, have had years to get up to snuff on the technical side of things and havent come close apparently.

Jardim · Feb 24, 2022

I guess the flow of frame-times is convoluted in the Lands Between.

His Majesty · Feb 24, 2022

Pocky4Th3Win said:
Does anyone actually take PC Gamer seriously? They lack the basic understanding of PC Gaming most of the time and have terrible takes.

I hope not. They have become an embarrassment lately, even going as far as claiming AMD's FSR looks better than DLSS.

JohnnyToonami · Feb 24, 2022

Bucca said:
As I said in the other thread, straight up embarrassing, as are the people hand waving this because "VRR displays".

Turbonerds on here love doing this

Deleted member 34725 · Feb 24, 2022

Not sure if I just somehow missed the answer skimming through this thread but…

What is the difference in between Performance mode and Quality mode on the PS5? Is it just resolution?

TooBusyLookinGud · Feb 24, 2022

Nooblet said:
I can confirm that the slowdown you see at 2:28 in that video happens ALL THE TIME in the game.
Like you can't go even 1-2 minutes without it happening.

Can you try offline mode and report back?

Dance Inferno · Feb 24, 2022

Jinfash said:
How often do you run into loading with this game?

Every time you die, for starters.

dm101 · Feb 24, 2022

I'm going to go with the ps5 over my series x on my cx, even though it has vrr. My new ps5 scuf reflex pro is enroute and I'm stoked to put those paddles to work.

Kemal86 · Feb 24, 2022

What is the resolution of PS5 and Series X in Quality? Is there a difference?

Biosnake · Feb 24, 2022

So is the PS5 version still the one to go for between XSX/PS5 if we don't have VRR display?

Blade30 · Feb 24, 2022

Dio said:
huh, according to PCGamer, the day one patch actually helped a lot:

What the hell is going on man? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Cels · Feb 24, 2022

DF on PC version: up to 250 ms stutters for new objects/effects/areas, frametime issues, issues that affect all hardware configurations under all settings, drops from 60 to 40, plus stuttering that is absent on consoles

console: neither console offers consistent 60FPS in any mode

lul

nath999 · Feb 24, 2022

Dio said:
huh, according to PCGamer, the day one patch actually helped a lot:

Isn't that going directly against what Digital Foundry is saying and obviously watching the streams you can see there's still a fair amount of stuttering.

bes.gen · Feb 24, 2022

Biosnake said:
So is the PS5 version still the one to go for between XSX/PS5 if we don't have VRR display?

same boat,
seems like it, looks like it performs better and at least has an option for solid 60 through bc.

Bento · Feb 24, 2022

Bah, these impressions have made my choice of platform a lot harder. I was going to go with the PC version for my i5 6600K and 1060 GTX (6 gb) card mostly for the SSD storage I got and do a medium or maybe even high setting at 1080p but now I'm not sure about how to go about it, has there been any word if there's been any improvements to the PS4 Pro version or at least an option to lock frame rate at 30?

EDIT: Ah fuck that PC benchmark video was apparently fake, PS4 Pr0 it is :((

Yuuber · Feb 24, 2022

Biosnake said:
So is the PS5 version still the one to go for between XSX/PS5 if we don't have VRR display?

Slight FPS advantage from what we know, but if you want to run at a locked 60 fps run the PS4 code on PS5.

TooBusyLookinGud · Feb 24, 2022

Kemal86 said:
What is the resolution of PS5 and Series X in Quality? Is there a difference?

No one knows yet. I assume that if there's a difference, it's microscopic.

Biosnake said:
So is the PS5 version still the one to go for between XSX/PS5 if we don't have VRR display?

Yeah, I'd go PS5 in this case.

strudelkuchen · Feb 24, 2022

Biosnake said:
So is the PS5 version still the one to go for between XSX/PS5 if we don't have VRR display?

if you want "locked" 60fps, it's the ps4 version on ps5, according to DF

Jinfash · Feb 24, 2022

Can someone confirm the ability to start on PS4 then move the save to PS5 but not back?

Dance Inferno said:
Every time you die, for starters.

🥲

Cels · Feb 24, 2022

strudelkuchen said:
if you want "locked" 60fps, it's the ps4 version on ps5, according to DF

pretty insane that you have to do this for a crossgen game, isn't it?

strudelkuchen · Feb 24, 2022

Cels said:
pretty insane that you have to do this for a crossgen game, isn't it?

yep, maybe they can iron out the performance over time... lol

Kemal86 · Feb 24, 2022

DumpsterJuice said:
No one knows yet. I assume that if there's a difference, it's microscopic.

Yeah, I'd go PS5 in this case.

Thanks. I thought it was odd the DF written piece didn't mention it - was wondering if someone else had done so.

Biosnake · Feb 24, 2022

Yuuber said:
Slight FPS advantage from what we know, but if you want to run at a locked 60 fps run the PS4 code on PS5.

DumpsterJuice said:
No one knows yet. I assume that if there's a difference, it's microscopic.

Yeah, I'd go PS5 in this case.

strudelkuchen said:
if you want "locked" 60fps, it's the ps4 version on ps5, according to DF

cool thanks

empo · Feb 24, 2022

imagine if we had pc2 with a pc1 emulator so we could run this smoother at launch ala switch vs yuzu

strudelkuchen · Feb 24, 2022

Biosnake said:
cool thanks

"Meanwhile, hitting a stable 60fps on PS5 involves another tactic entirely. Sadly, VRR support isn't available on Sony's machine right now, but, as with the network test, simply running the PS4 app on PS5 clears up the frame-rate to a smooth 60fps. The trade-off? The game runs at a lower resolution - at what appears to be a reconstructed 1800p - and with lower settings in grass density than the native PS5 version. This is fundamentally the PS4 Pro codepath, using the higher power of PS5 to hit a more consistent performance level. Even with these trade-offs, running the PS4 app on PS5 is currently the best option on any console to achieve a consistent 60fps - and comes recommended if you value outright performance over image quality and higher-end graphical features."

-- via: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/...2-24-elden-ring-performance-first-impressions

Dio · Feb 24, 2022

nath999 said:
Isn't that going directly against what Digital Foundry is saying and obviously watching the streams you can see there's still a fair amount of stuttering.

yes, which is why it's conflicting info.

Leveean · Feb 24, 2022

nath999 said:
Isn't that going directly against what Digital Foundry is saying and obviously watching the streams you can see there's still a fair amount of stuttering.

It doesn't conflict if the pre-patch version was much worse.

Noema · Feb 24, 2022

Kane said:
Does Series S support VRR? I just got LG C1 OLED, but I have no idea if Series supports it's features… I know it doesn't support 4K resolutions.

Yes, it does support VRR.

BTW, It also supports 4K. It's just that not many games on Series S will ever run at a full 2160p, but the console is perfectly capable of outputting a 4K signal.

Pirico · Feb 24, 2022

Still no info if the game will simply refuse to launch on DX12 GPUs with FL 11_0 only (Like AC Valhalla does)?

th1nk · Feb 24, 2022

I checked out Sekiro PS4 Pro on my 83A90J and the image quality is fine and fluid 60 fps are great. If there is major pop-in on any version then I will not be playing Elden Ring as a graphics-whore game anyway, so PS4 Version on PS5 it is until the VRR patches are out.

Luckily I could only order the PS4 Collector's Edition, so I lucked out.

Rickyrozay2o9 · Feb 24, 2022

nath999 said:
Isn't that going directly against what Digital Foundry is saying and obviously watching the streams you can see there's still a fair amount of stuttering.

I'm sure this is only saying it's better off from where it was, which I don't even want to imagine if this is where it is after .

JustinH · Feb 24, 2022

Geez.

Been thinking about this for a while, but maybe I should finally just get a 1440p Freesync monitor until I can save up enough for an LG OLED later in the year...

Kane · Feb 24, 2022

Powerofthecloud said:
Vrr.. sure does
4K.. sure does.. Ori is 4K on the S

Wow, I had no idea!

cgpartlow · Feb 24, 2022

Man, just watched some framerate videos. Why is their no toggle to cap the frame rate? I would almost prefer to play on quality at 30FPS since it is always consistently above that. I got the PS5 version because I wanted to game share with my friend, but I am wishing I had this on my Series X just for VRR.

RayCharlizard · Feb 24, 2022

cgpartlow said:
Man, just watched some framerate videos. Why is their no toggle to cap the frame rate? I would almost prefer to play on quality at 30FPS since it is always consistently above that. I got the PS5 version because I wanted to game share with my friend, but I am wishing I had this on my Series X just for VRR.

Because FromSoftware's 30 fps caps are always fucking terrible. It's probably a toss up to which feels better, 30 w/ bad frame pacing or the unlocked frame rate we have right now.

Amauri14 · Feb 24, 2022

thethickofit said:
Wait does this mean that the game has EAC Linux compatibility.

If you check here, you will see if they are in your library that with the exception Dark Souls Remastered because of needing to manually bring the keyboard in some parts, all the others Souls games on Steam have been verified for the Deck.

Radarscope1 · Feb 24, 2022

I'm not getting this at launch but it's looking like the PS4 version on PS5 for me.

MrBenchmark · Feb 24, 2022

Stygian said:
Exactly. It's fucking stupid to expect people to buy brand new tvs with a still new and niche feature to make up for devs who can't or won't optimize their games properly.
Especially when people like me have 4k sets with hdr and dolby vision and great picture quality.
I'm not against the idea of vrr, I think it's a good thing. But I dont want it to be used it as a crutch when devs could avoid framerate issues in the first place.
And From while absolutely brilliant at game design, have had years to get up to snuff on the technical side of things and havent come close apparently.

VRR is anything but niche at this point there are TVs several years old that have it and you can get TVs AND monitors with VRR/Freesync really cheap now. Just because Sony doesn't have it doesn't make it "niche" it does however make them lazy!

Pheonix · Feb 24, 2022

Arn said:
Wish I had a VRR TV, sounds like XSX with VRR is by far the best way to go.

I can't even begin to talk about how having a VRR TV becomes a relevant option to have a decent current-gen experience.

I always saw VRR to be there for games trying to hit 120fps but stuck in the 80-105fps range, not fr games trying to hit 60fps but stuttering between45-60fps.

Its even more ridiculous when you consider all they had to do on the 60fps mode is just lock it down to 1440p instead of it 1500p+ - 2160p dynamic rez, when their scaler doesn't catch these frame drops fast enough. Or put in a 30fps lock for the rez mode.

This is doubly compounded by the act that we are talking about FS here, who are notorious for not addressing these kinda issues.

Mind bogling.

digitalrelic · Feb 24, 2022

Stygian said:
Exactly. It's fucking stupid to expect people to buy brand new tvs with a still new and niche feature to make up for devs who can't or won't optimize their games properly.
Especially when people like me have 4k sets with hdr and dolby vision and great picture quality.
I'm not against the idea of vrr, I think it's a good thing. But I dont want it to be used it as a crutch when devs could avoid framerate issues in the first place.
And From while absolutely brilliant at game design, have had years to get up to snuff on the technical side of things and havent come close apparently.

I don't really disagree with you, but the beauty of VRR is that in the future, when adoption is more ubiquitous, developers will no longer have to worry about an arbitrary 30fps or 60fps lock. Games can freely swim in that 35-55fps range without it really being an issue.

Or while we're at it, a developer whos game is struggling to hit a locked 60 but runs consistently well above 30 could simply lock their frame rate at, say, 45fps and a VRR display would handle it flawlessly.

Lots to gain from further VRR adoption looking forward.

Pheonix · Feb 24, 2022

Kemal86 said:
What is the resolution of PS5 and Series X in Quality? Is there a difference?

DF in their previous video of the game states that in quality mode its a targeted and typically sits at targeted 2160p. They didn't say anything about DRS for that mode or give a range. So it's safe to assume it stays around 2160p most of the time. At the cost of framerate of course and it has better shadows in that mode.

Perfmode is using DRS with I think 1512 - 2160p.

Malakym · Feb 24, 2022

dark494 said:
Then watch the ACG video if you want to nitpick where it's even more severe

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Can people please stop sharing this transphobe dude here, there has to be plenty of other people at this point discussing the performance issues.

antispin · Feb 24, 2022

Jinfash said:
Can someone confirm the ability to start on PS4 then move the save to PS5 but not back?

🥲

Correct. 4 to 5 supported. Not 5 to 4.

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