Didn't other outlets mention framerates, in image quality mode, were anywhere from 60 all the way down to 30? Yet in this video I think I didn't see a drop lower than 54. Did other outlets play more graphically intense circuits or something?
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Digital Foundry: Dirt 5 Xbox Series X Hands-On at 4K60 + 120Hz Modes Tested
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Wholesome. Enjoyed his earlier interview with Rich on the technical matters too.
I'm surprised it's hitting so consistently 120fps. Even more for a early build as the dev game stated it.
The devs themselves have said in interviews that it's probably closer to Dirt 2 than the others in the series.
I think the over-reaction to the game's looks at 120hz probably comes from people who have never actually tried gaming at that frame-rate and aren't aware of the sheer power required to do it. Compromises will have to be made if players want as smooth an experience as possible. You will never truly appreciate 120hz either until you're sat in front on the TV playing it at that standard - it was the most impressive thing switching to PC gaming offered me by far, and I'm excited to have this experience on a console.
Developers won't be able to just flick a switch and add 120hz mode, they'll have to make changes that negatively impact the visuals. DIRT 5 looks great in my opinion and its a great video by DF.
Developers won't be able to just flick a switch and add 120hz mode, they'll have to make changes that negatively impact the visuals. DIRT 5 looks great in my opinion and its a great video by DF.
Went to bed thinking the framerate was fluctuating wildly between 30 and 60 due to impressions that dropped around midnight, and woke up to DF saying the framerate is pretty much locked to 60. What a ride.
so, less shadows, no crowd on the 120hz and what looks like additional tearing on the 60hz side, based on the image.
Hold on. The videos I saw earlier didn't look that good. This actually does look good. I may have missed, but are the reflections SSR or ray tracing?
I wonder why the huge discrepancy in performance reported amongst all the other folks vs what Digial Foundry is reporting here? Maybe Digital Foundy has a newer build? In any case, I look forward to the performance/loading metrics once the game is finished and is released across the board on all the different platforms.
Amazing how the commentary over a video totally changes people's opinions.
The DF video looks a bit better, but not enough to warrant the night and day reactions to the footage.
The DF video looks a bit better, but not enough to warrant the night and day reactions to the footage.
Damn the thirst trap for that 77" LG CX is real now. Must. Resist. Wait. For. Sale. I think there will be more 120fps gaming coming, probably more than most were expecting. Seriously though, my tv supports 120hz at 1080p but I'm wanting VRR and OLED.
Of course it warrants it. When other videos are saying the framerate fluctuates between 30 and 60 and DF tests it and says its pretty much locked 60, that's a huge difference.
Crossgen has got to be brutal for devs. 4 Xboxes, 3 Playstations, with multiple performance mode levels, and some number of PC levels all needing some optimization and testing.
I'm not sure if the 120hz will be worth the tradeoff, but I'm looking forward to trying it out.
I'm not sure if the 120hz will be worth the tradeoff, but I'm looking forward to trying it out.
But that's just people making assumptions. Shows how easy it is to spread nonsense.
Sounds like so much work when you write it down like that. I think alot of devs will be happy to leave the current gen behind.
I haven't seen it myself but 120 on an OLED must be revelatory with regards to motion clarity.
Great video (as always) by Digital Foundry. Love the work they do. Game looks like it could really be fun. Have to say that I do not see that much of a difference between the 60FPS and 120 FPS in terms of fluidity, but I also struggle with videos comparing 30 to 60 FPS.
Not a word on VRR/FreeSync, disappointing. I'm dying to learn about that feature... but is it under NDA or simply no one cares? VRR/FreeSync would be perfect in a game like this where performance hovers around 50-60fps and 90-120fps.
Good video, looks really nice, and 120hz mode looks good enough despite compromises.
Does not feel really next gen, but probably due to being build with scalability in mind.
A Motorstom-like game could be amazing.
Looking good for a potential vr mode on ps5
Does not feel really next gen, but probably due to being build with scalability in mind.
A Motorstom-like game could be amazing.
Looking good for a potential vr mode on ps5
great video, might pick this game up at launch to have some kind of racing game.
it also points out somethings that needs emphasising to a lot of people on this site - you don't need HDMI 2.1 to run games at 120Hz. the only thing you'll be missing without HDMI 2.1 is a full-fat 4k120hz, which i can already guarantee won't be an issue for most games using 120fps modes since they'll most likely be running anywhere from 1080p-1440p, of which HDMI 2.0 can handle fine.
it also points out somethings that needs emphasising to a lot of people on this site - you don't need HDMI 2.1 to run games at 120Hz. the only thing you'll be missing without HDMI 2.1 is a full-fat 4k120hz, which i can already guarantee won't be an issue for most games using 120fps modes since they'll most likely be running anywhere from 1080p-1440p, of which HDMI 2.0 can handle fine.
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Watched the DF video. The game looks faaaaaantastic and the track builder mode puts it firmly in the must buy list for me. Excite!
Good video. Strange game. Frame rate and visual modes both target 4k/60 and both are fairly good at holding it, but one has better graphics? Although tbh I couldn't see much difference so I'd maybe go performance for a locked 60, if they support VRR for the graphics mode that may be a decent compromise if drops are only around busy grid starts
1440p/120 is a smart choice if it means more TVs can get the benefit as it fits within HDMI 2.0 spec.
As an aside - it seems silly to say 'early build, still lots of optimisation' when its out in 4 weeks. They'll need to be gold in like 10 days. Obviously technically a preview build but not that much wiggle room except for day one patches
1440p/120 is a smart choice if it means more TVs can get the benefit as it fits within HDMI 2.0 spec.
As an aside - it seems silly to say 'early build, still lots of optimisation' when its out in 4 weeks. They'll need to be gold in like 10 days. Obviously technically a preview build but not that much wiggle room except for day one patches
I think these look better because DF is just far more prepared for next gen capture and analysis than anyone else. Some other videos released early this morning did mention their capture gear wasn't up to the task. For Ars and IGN's takes, I wonder if they were reviewing the capture footage alone, or if using their capture gear introduced the problems and image quality issue they saw.
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actually no tearing on 120fps mode, its vsynced already
the other two 60fps versions might be improved until -or even after- release,
devs stated its an older build media are showing and that they'll be working on this game.
makes sense too, since its a day1 release game sporting new features
yeah, because looking reverse at the start line is surely the most important and the most enjoyable thing to do when racing at 120fps.Because progressive detail is so difficult, let's try full detail versus no detail at all in the track. Surely the track is not something player will look at in a racing game /S
never the less, I am pretty sure that down the line someone will make a 30fps racer to satisfy your needs
Did Ars Technica make any statement? Makes them look really unprofessional, spreading misinformation.
Im hyped for this! On a side note, I hope Series X had the option for 4:4:4 chroma HDR at launch.
The problem exists when playing too. It's very distracting. BTW, I don't play under 60 fps.
Up until now I was sure that I'd need a C9 or a CX to enjoy 120 Hz. And here it turns out that my trusty old C7 will show 120 Hz just fine, in 1080p. I was not aware of this at all.
I mean the quality of the vid in general puts the game in a better spotlight.
I'm envious because it seems I purchased my Samsung tv 1 year too early. I would be ecstatic if it supported 1080/120hz. You won't have to upgrade your tv for years
