The 4k ray tracing mode seem pretty comparable with the difference showing less than the hardware specs would indicate but the high framerate wow, that was some high differences but in favor of the PS5.
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Digital Foundry | Devil May Cry 5 SE: PS5 vs Xbox Series X - The First Next-Gen Performance Face-Off
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Youre not getting THAT big of a performance gap in a port of a last gen game based on memory bandwidth.
DF's suspicions of an issue with the XSX port are very likely.
Less than 20% and only in compute. PS5 GPU holds advantages in other areas, such and pixel and texel fill rates due to the higher clock.
The games are going to be pretty similar across both consoles for the entire gen. It comes down to services and exclusives this time.
that's always what I've expected for third party multiplatform games. for the most part developers will just find a happy medium between the specs and do minimal optimization. don't blame them either, there's such a minor difference between the two. and both have very random but ultimately minor advantages and disadvantages.
So the Xbox doesn't have the issue where your display determines what your game outputs like PS5 does.
Seems like it's an Xbox game that was developed on a unfinished GDK, especially with how the ray tracing came out of nowhere when it originally slated to come out post launch.
Seems like it's an Xbox game that was developed on a unfinished GDK, especially with how the ray tracing came out of nowhere when it originally slated to come out post launch.
This release is getting more questionable by the day.
Given the on paper specs a 40+ fps difference is ridiculous and more likely a software issue than a result of some secret sauce power from the PS5.
Given the on paper specs a 40+ fps difference is ridiculous and more likely a software issue than a result of some secret sauce power from the PS5.
The conclusion in the article (posted in the post I quoted) is:
which is not at all how you should read the results shown in the video.
The video shows two well defined things:
- XSX is slightly faster in GPU bound scenarios as expected, ranging from ~10-12% in 4k mode (slightly below the theoretical 17% which is expected as you're not gonna see that unless you're 100% ALU bound), to up to 20+% with RT which is heavy bandwidth dependant (which is again expected as XSX has more bandwidth).
- PS5 can be massively faster in performance mode (whatever performance mode actually means for this game, we can only guess). This is clearly not expected but it's also not remotely an indication of how the hw or platforms compare. This is a specific issue with DMC5 that can very much be fixed by a patch (or potentially, but much less likely, an issue with XSX software stack that can again be patched by Microsoft).
I don't see neither PS5 punching above its weight (it's performing exactly as expected), nor XSX not delivering the expected perf. All I see is a game having a potential issue with the code on one of the platforms.
If this starts to happen in more and more games than XSX might have an issue, but even then it would only be a software one that can be patched. So far there's nothing pointing in that direction.
The only thing these video/article do is feeding console war, as usual.
I think people posting (and reposting) those cherry picked screenshots as some statement of the PS5's superiority are pretty sad tbh.
Do they compare it to the last gen version with boost mode? That seems like it would get you the locked 60.
And the PS5 version, for the 120hz mode selection bug.
Good news that the XSX version had RT out of the box after all though.
Otherwise... interesting results. Bit early to draw general trends though, let's see some more games.
They specifically comment on this as not being the case. The framerate difference between PS5 and Series X is too big in performance mode for VRR to save the day.
LMAO....
I am loving this thread.
Differences minimal and PS5 ahead in specific mode and it must mean the port is bad and rushed lol. Forgetting that this game already exists on the PS4/XB1.
And the talk about better use of APIs... in 3 years devs would have gotten better with the XSX APIs, but they would have done the same on the PS5 APIs too.
I am loving this thread.
Differences minimal and PS5 ahead in specific mode and it must mean the port is bad and rushed lol. Forgetting that this game already exists on the PS4/XB1.
And the talk about better use of APIs... in 3 years devs would have gotten better with the XSX APIs, but they would have done the same on the PS5 APIs too.
Haha, I didn't watch the whole video, I thought it was pretty pointless. Those massive dips on XBX are most certainly due to bugs and whatnot.
Also, no loading time comparisons but maybe it's a bad example too.
So both versions are extremely close as expected. I guess the slightly higher Series X CPU clocks lead to slightly higher frame rate.
I gotta disagree with your conclusion; I think their findings directly support their conclusion.
Whether it feeds a console war is a whole other consideration.
Go watch the other DF video about the game, yes, the port is rushed.
DF: Devil May Cry 5: Special Edition - PS5 Ray Tracing + 120Hz Modes Tested!
edit: 4K w/RT: Reconstruction 4K w/o RT: Native 1080p w/RT: Native - 1080p w/RT uses a lower internal resolution for RT. - RT modes add voxel fog. - Native 4K mode doesn't hold 60fps (around the 45-60 range), RT quality mode has worse performance (drops into the 30s). - RT Performance mode...
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Honestly, as someone with a 60 hz 4k hdr tv, none of this stuff really moves the needle for me. Seems comparable
You could when it doesn't seem to be a hugely well done port in general. The drops are in the same places as the old consoles, so it's clearly not just horsepower related.
I feel like with this game, we learned more about the current state of the software rather than the hardware behind each console. Not DFs fault, they can just report it as it is. Probably the blame lays with Capcom and/or MS and Sony.
FFS, the game really just doesn't sound like it's ready to roll on either platform. They both have such huge issues lol.
I guess the other big comparisons to look forward to this year are COD, Valhalla and Watch Dogs?
FFS, the game really just doesn't sound like it's ready to roll on either platform. They both have such huge issues lol.
I guess the other big comparisons to look forward to this year are COD, Valhalla and Watch Dogs?
I think it's pretty clear that the PS5 is being much more aggressive about its image reconstruction than the XSX. Because that's the only time the PS5 runs better. When the resolution is locked the XSX has a (slight) edge.
Seeing the Xbox shuffle from 60-120fps during a combat sequence in the same room is bizarre. I can't say I recall ever seeing something that extreme on PC before when I would follow my own framerates. Seems like a pretty poor port job overall by Capcom. It's especially curious when the XSX performs (slightly) better in the other three modes. Don't think too much, if anything, can be drawn from performance comparisons here.
I mean are people expecting as big of a gap as xbox one ps4 or ps4 pro and one x?
Calling it now - One will be native 4k, other will have dynamic 4k, One will have miniscule better load times than the other...everything else will most likely similar across most games.
I will be extremely surprised if there will be as big of a differences like the previous gen save for those rare titles but we will see I guess.
Calling it now - One will be native 4k, other will have dynamic 4k, One will have miniscule better load times than the other...everything else will most likely similar across most games.
I will be extremely surprised if there will be as big of a differences like the previous gen save for those rare titles but we will see I guess.
That's exactly how I felt after reading the article, thanks for summing it up. I was also a bit confused with the conclusion (one console underperforming and the other punching above its weight).
(I disagree with your last sentence, though. It does -sadly- feed console war, as usual, but it is definitely useful for people owning multiple platforms. And it's done very professionally IMO)
Regardless of the platform, I wouldn't touch this game with such wild uncapped framerate. Interesting to see both consoles achieve relative parity.
Also, please stop posting the 120 fps PS5 screenshot, it's not a good summary of the video.
I guess Assassin's Creed and Watch Dog are next?
Also, please stop posting the 120 fps PS5 screenshot, it's not a good summary of the video.
I guess Assassin's Creed and Watch Dog are next?
It's how it's going to be, though! The differences, in my opinion, were already very small, and they're going to be even smaller this time. The Digital Foundry analysis is interesting, but I would personally never base a purchasing decision on these kinds of things.