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Digital Foundry: Cyberpunk 2077 Gamescom 2019 Demo Impressions + RTX Features Analysis!
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I swear I'm not stalking DF, every now and then I open my youtube sub feed and their videos are always the latest :p
I used to post em, but now I leave it to u, you're to quick 😆
On topic, this clears things up a bit regarding this new footage.
I figured the public trailer was PS4 Pro footage but with some ray tracing implementations being in there that can't be the case at all. Wonder why they'd upload a decidedly worse looking demo compared to what they showed at Gamescom then.
It would be an X at the very least since MS has marketing rights and all the prompts are Xbox prompts.
Dictator do you think there's a chance that the new 15 minute video is actually from an X1X or are there too many things going on?
I would not guess that - since there is official word it is RTX 2080Ti footage with RT on. But for some reason it is 1080p footage in a 4K file. I am not sure how or why CDPR released that instead of the ultra crisp 4K resolution footage we saw at Gamescom, but here we are.
It is also missing any of the areas and shots that make the graphics super obvious - RT features which look really nice look pretty hidden in this footage. None of the eye candy areas :(
That footage is not looking good at all from image quality perspective...
I would expect base consoles to provide that image quality. It's probably not an error from CDPR and they just setting expectations for those versions of the game early on to avoid backlash at release.
I mean... come on. It looks like 720-900p buffer + some taa on top and texture quality set to low.
I would expect base consoles to provide that image quality. It's probably not an error from CDPR and they just setting expectations for those versions of the game early on to avoid backlash at release.
I mean... come on. It looks like 720-900p buffer + some taa on top and texture quality set to low.
Definitely unusual, but at least you explained why the demo looked.....off.
In your professional opinion, how close to this new Deep Dive video do you think the Xbox One X version will be?
It's uploaded in 1080p and looks even worse than video uploaded on official channel.
So since DF made a video explaining why the video quality doesn't look as good as previously, does this validate previous posters who said the video looked pretty bad compared to earlier clips?
I thought things looked a bit muddier, but I recognize that the content was in a darker, less colorful space.
I thought things looked a bit muddier, but I recognize that the content was in a darker, less colorful space.
Given that something like Control is running even on a 2080ti at 1080p with RTX, why is it particularly shocking that this would be 1080p? Is it just that the RTX isn't particularly intense in most of these scenes? Isn't it possible previous demos were just not a realistic look at what the game would actually require and demand, and as such, they could run things to look better? (I know the stream was listed at 4k, but that doesn't feel meaningful.)
It validates all the people that were saying that you shouldn't judge the graphics based on poorly uploaded videos or streams.
That loss of quality was easily attributed to video compression. The people claiming for downgrade were implying the game was lesser in things like polygon count, textures, number of npcs, overall detail, etc.
E3 2018 demo was also running at 1080p according to the devs and it was very crisp. The addition of RT effects and other expensive techniques like SSR and render to texture reflection makes me think this might be lower than 1080p at this unoptimized stage of development. But DF did pixel count so I don't know what's going on.
One thing is obvious, the graphical fidelity is not an issue with this demo. The amount of detail in the world in an urban setting will hugely benefit from base resolution which does not paint a good outlook for the base console versions. This same footage at native 4K would probably be quite amazing.
One thing is obvious, the graphical fidelity is not an issue with this demo. The amount of detail in the world in an urban setting will hugely benefit from base resolution which does not paint a good outlook for the base console versions. This same footage at native 4K would probably be quite amazing.
You can also download a high bitrate version of last year's video, so I think a lot of people might just be remembering it without YouTube compression.
Thats a 16gb download I dont think most people would have seen that. Even the youtube version, sharing the same overall bitrate as Deep dive demo, seems to not have this clarity issue.