Digital Foundry: Crysis Remastered PC Technology Review

Dogstar · Sep 22, 2020

Detail said:
I swear this mod looks better than the remaster

Wow, it looks far better, and preserves the original look, which has been trashed by some terrible art and tech choices. This remaster is a shit show and I'm so glad I didn't simply jump in, which I might have if it wasn't so overpriced. I'm going to reinstall the original, mod it and give the middle finger to this piece of crap.

Deleted member 4494 · Sep 22, 2020

I'd maybe pick this up at 20. As is, it's not worth it. It's not up to the quality standard it's namesake demands. If they do the work to get it on par with the original with regards to the stuff pointed out in the video I would reconsider, but this... just isn't good enough.

seldead · Sep 22, 2020

Removing volumetrics, reducing physics and screwing up sub surface scattering is very disappointing. Still being so single threaded is blasphemy.

On the other hand the textures, ray tracing and SVOGI look great. I guess throw Crysis onto to list of games that will never have a definitive version.

Dr. Ludwig · Sep 22, 2020

Removed leaning and fucked with suit controls/mechanics... yeah no thanks.

PorcoLighto · Sep 22, 2020

Saber has done some impressive port jobs so I had really high hope but it looks like a lot of compromise was made regarding the base version. What a shame, let's hope they can pull off some fixes.

zma1013 · Sep 22, 2020

Send in the Bluepoint.

Buggy Loop · Sep 22, 2020

Ugh.. So the 2007 game is still the best version

.exe · Sep 22, 2020

No lean is an odd choice indeed. The buttons are there on PC. Why is it out?

True Prophecy · Sep 22, 2020

Great video Alex! But you unsold me on this. I was so excited for it. Damn.

How did they make these clearly obvious mistakes.... The new benefits don't overcome the downsides..

Its probably not fixable given what he is saying in this video.

donhonk · Sep 22, 2020

True Prophecy said:
Great video Alex! But you unsold me on this. I was so excited for it. Damn.

How did they make these clearly obvious mistakes.... The new benefits don't overcome the downsides..

Its probably not fixable given what he is saying in this video.

I totally agree with this not being a fixable release. I can have all the faith in the world in modders but I don't see them getting past fundamental issues with the engine.

I played for an hour and refunded. What a shame! I say this as a huge Crysis fan.

GrayFoxBH · Sep 22, 2020

So, it's consoles fault instead of Crytek? That's the problem when you put someone who idolizes Crytek and visits them to make this kind of video. Alex feels pressured to not criticize too much the studio. How this game is not optimized for multiple cpu cores is beyond me. That's consoles fault too? I thought they used multicore cpus...

Edgar · Sep 22, 2020

Do we know why crytek took xbox 360 game base instead of original pc as a base to do remaster?

Dictator · Sep 22, 2020

GrayFoxBH said:
So, it's consoles fault instead of Crytek? That's the problem when you put someone who idolizes Crytek and visits them to make this kind of video. Alex feels pressured to not criticize too much the studio. How this game is not optimized for multiple cpu cores is beyond me. That's consoles fault too? I thought they used multicore cpus...

I thought I was rather critical and pointed out a lot if not all of the large issues.

strudelkuchen · Sep 22, 2020

GrayFoxBH said:
So, it's consoles fault instead of Crytek? [...]

Nah, it's still in the end the fault of Saber/Crytek.

GavinUK86 · Sep 22, 2020

GrayFoxBH said:
So, it's consoles fault instead of Crytek? That's the problem when you put someone who idolizes Crytek and visits them to make this kind of video. Alex feels pressured to not criticize too much the studio. How this game is not optimized for multiple cpu cores is beyond me. That's consoles fault too? I thought they used multicore cpus...

what the fuck are you talking about? he didnt say anything about it being consoles fault. the remaster is based on the old ports, thats all.

Dictator said:
I thought I was rather critical and pointed out a lot if not all of the large issues.

yeah you were. no idea what they're talking about.

horkrux · Sep 22, 2020

GrayFoxBH said:
So, it's consoles fault instead of Crytek? That's the problem when you put someone who idolizes Crytek and visits them to make this kind of video. Alex feels pressured to not criticize too much the studio. How this game is not optimized for multiple cpu cores is beyond me. That's consoles fault too? I thought they used multicore cpus...

what a bizarre take

zma1013 · Sep 22, 2020

Edgar said:
Do we know why crytek took xbox 360 game base instead of original pc as a base to do remaster?

Probably because it being console-based made it easier to port over to current consoles. In their mind, no reason to redo work already done.

Deleted member 679 · Sep 22, 2020

That's such a shame. Any time someone brought up that some aspect didn't look very good, my usual response was just "don't care, just give me proper CPU optimization and I'm in", but I didn't even get that. :(

Guess I'll just stick with the original trilogy + Warhead.

True Prophecy · Sep 22, 2020

Dictator said:
I thought I was rather critical and pointed out a lot if not all of the large issues.

Knowing how big a crysis fan you are (intro was great btw), you were absolutely straight about the issues present.

Would have been great for this to be a future benchmark.

chandoog · Sep 22, 2020

Just watched this, weird to see so much technical debt being inherited from the 360/PS3 build. I might not have been keeping track during active development but I thought this would be built on the basis of the original PC version, not the console version with PC things imported in.

Deleted member 16136 · Sep 22, 2020

Dictator said:
I thought I was rather critical and pointed out a lot if not all of the large issues.

You were, pretty much everything was there. I noticed the crouch issue, it was really pissing me off, I didnt realise it was caused by what you said.

Did you notice a change in enemy AI? Kind of stuck out to me, enemies further away seemed to not react to stuff happening where you were (enemies that did in the original), while also being a bit simple in their movements. Most of the time they just ......... ran away.

Also felt like the weapon recoil has changed. Felt like they were now lasers when ADS, and a really tight spread when fired from the hip at short to mid range.

platocplx · Sep 22, 2020

Dictator said:
I thought I was rather critical and pointed out a lot if not all of the large issues.

you nailed it honestly.

strudelkuchen · Sep 22, 2020

Dictator said:
I thought I was rather critical and pointed out a lot if not all of the large issues.

You did good.
I would even say that your deep knowledge of all things Crysis strengthen your arguments.

Tahnit · Sep 22, 2020

GrayFoxBH said:
So, it's consoles fault instead of Crytek? That's the problem when you put someone who idolizes Crytek and visits them to make this kind of video. Alex feels pressured to not criticize too much the studio. How this game is not optimized for multiple cpu cores is beyond me. That's consoles fault too? I thought they used multicore cpus...

What are you even talking about? He specifically mentions how all they had to do was look at the original crysis side by side with this one to find the flaws. He also talks about how they used the console version as the base instead of the original crysis.

shut up about the idolizing crytek bs. He wasnt doing that at all. He had legit concerns and critiques.

Detail · Sep 22, 2020

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Mod looks better and gives better FPS...

Detail · Sep 22, 2020

Dogstar said:
Wow, it looks far better, and preserves the original look, which has been trashed by some terrible art and tech choices. This remaster is a shit show and I'm so glad I didn't simply jump in, which I might have if it wasn't so overpriced. I'm going to reinstall the original, mod it and give the middle finger to this piece of crap.

Honestly, you're not wrong.

Painguy said:
Holy shit. I'll just install this instead of the remaster. A real shame. I get why they went with the 360/PS3 version as a base, but nah fam.

Yup, get the base game cheaper and get this mod for free = better experience than the remaster imo.

Cow Mengde said:
Wait, this also has global illumination?

Yup.

Elfotografoalocado · Sep 22, 2020

Edgar said:
Do we know why crytek took xbox 360 game base instead of original pc as a base to do remaster?

Because Crysis on PC is an older codebase built on CryEngine 2 and Crysis on consoles is newer and built in CryEngine 3. Easier to implement the tools from the newer versions of CryEngine, multicore CPU support is already there, etc.

What the hell at the dishonesty present here, comparing the "Can it run Crysis" lod setting in the remaster with mods of the original game in Very High is ridiculous when Medium offers basically the same detail as Very High in the original while running much, much better.

Deleted member 44371 · Sep 22, 2020

I cant believe the 2007 base game is superior than this remastered version. The gun sounds are worse and there isnt even LEANING?! Even the 2007 game had leaning.

zma1013 · Sep 22, 2020

So there are less trees in this version right?

Deleted member 20831 · Sep 22, 2020

The absence of those clouds at the game's initial airdrop intro in the remastered itself tells a lot, because that sequence in the original till after the music kicks was impressive (and is* still impressive till now), too bad Remastered does not have it.

Bluelote · Sep 22, 2020

it being based on the Xbox 360 version of Crysis seems to be one of the key cause of many of the downsides,
it's a shame that they didn't go all in and worked with the PC code primarily

rashbeep · Sep 22, 2020

Detail said:
4k Crysis Remastered vs Enhanced Edition comparison - In-Depth visual Analysis

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Mod looks better and gives better FPS...

not a complete win for the mod imo, the general outdoor lighting and shadowing is much better in the remaster and that's very apparent in the jungle scene. remaster has more natural shading which gives the vegetation proper depth where the mod just looks like a cheap looking ao solution applied everywhere (and also too much of it)

still though a paid remaster should not be losing out to a free mod in any category, the delay didn't do too much to improve the final product as expected

platocplx · Sep 22, 2020

damn It really seems like the Old Consoles Fucked over this port. I dont understand how they didnt use the PC Version Instead.

Cow Mengde · Sep 22, 2020

Detail said:
4k Crysis Remastered vs Enhanced Edition comparison - In-Depth visual Analysis

4k Crysis Remastered vs Enhanced Edition comparison - In-Depth visual Analysis-------------------------------------------------------------------------------...

www.youtube.com

Mod looks better and gives better FPS...

And better frame rate? Wouldn't all those effects be more hardware intensive? Are the modders about to do something about the lack of multi-threading? Sounds impossible for a mod.

Vanta Aurelius · Sep 22, 2020

platocplx said:
damn It really seems like the Old Consoles Fucked over this port. I dont understand how they didnt use the PC Version Instead.

The easiest assumption to make is time constraints. It's probably a much quicker process to port CE3 assets and code to CE5 than it would be to port CE2 assets.

I'm personally curious if Saber had any real say in what version of the game they could even use as a base?

It's just hard for me to believe that the lack of the ascension level is due to Crytek not liking it, and more so to do with the fact that it's just missing from the console version being used as a base for the remaster.

Hopefully this remaster, and fan response, will motivate Crytek to redo remaster properly like how Konami redid the Zone of the Enders Remaster.

The real question i have is how dedicated is Crytek to getting this version of the game right (sans refusing to re implement the Ascension level)?

boris_feinbrand · Sep 22, 2020

Those are some of the same shortcomings as the Switch version... The fuck?

platocplx · Sep 22, 2020

DudleyBoi said:
The easiest assumption to make is time constraints. It's probably a much quicker process to port CE3 assets and code to CE5 than it would be to port CE3 assets.

I'm personally curious if Saber had any real say in what version of the game they could even use as a base?

It's just hard for me to believe that the lack of the ascension level is due to Crytek not liking it, and more so to do with the fact that it's just missing from the console version being used as a base for the remaster.

Hopefully this remaster, and fan response, will motivate Crytek to redo remaster properly like how Konami redid the Zone of the Enders Remaster.

The real question i have is how dedicated is Crytek to getting this version of the game right (sans refusing to re implement the Ascension level)?

yeah because seeing how poorly it still runs on CPUs and doesnt take advantage of hyperthreading definitely says time constraints and that CPU piece alone would be a total overhaul

Hugare · Sep 22, 2020

The most disapointing thing is the whole single thread CPU utilization

It was my most wanted thing. What they really couldnt fuck up.

And yet, they did fuck up. What a waste.

It was the most important aspect to get right in order to renovate this game

Timu · Sep 22, 2020

Hugare said:
The most disapointing thing is the whole single thread CPU utilization

It was my most wanted thing. What they really couldnt fuck up.

And yet, they did fuck up. What a waste.

It was the most important aspect to get right in order to renovate this game

You would think that in 2020 they would fix that. 2007 I can somewhat understand but no excuse here.

plagiarize · Sep 22, 2020

Detailed. Interesting. Firm but fair.

Glad I didn't pre-order this. When they make further improvements I'll jump in. For now, it's a wait and see.

Vitamin_B_Complex · Sep 22, 2020

Dictator said:
I thought I was rather critical and pointed out a lot if not all of the large issues.

You were, don't listen to this fool.

Painguy · Sep 22, 2020

Do we know if they are gonna continue to patch this game?

LCGeek · Sep 22, 2020

DudleyBoi said:
Hopefully this remaster, and fan response, will motivate Crytek to redo remaster properly like how Konami redid the Zone of the Enders Remaster.

or capcom doing RE4 properly on systems well specced above a cube or ps2.

ss_lemonade · Sep 22, 2020

Ogs said:
You were, pretty much everything was there. I noticed the crouch issue, it was really pissing me off, I didnt realise it was caused by what you said.

Did you notice a change in enemy AI? Kind of stuck out to me, enemies further away seemed to not react to stuff happening where you were (enemies that did in the original), while also being a bit simple in their movements. Most of the time they just ......... ran away.

Also felt like the weapon recoil has changed. Felt like they were now lasers when ADS, and a really tight spread when fired from the hip at short to mid range.

There were several instances where the AI would just stand right in front of me doing nothing. Maybe it's a trait from the old console ports?

Atolm · Sep 22, 2020

13 years later and a 2020 600$ CPU is bottlenecked by this game.

Betelgeuse · Sep 22, 2020

Dictator said:
I thought I was rather critical and pointed out a lot if not all of the large issues.

You did an excellent job of honestly identifying issues without being unduly critical or apologetic.

The post you're replying to is the typical nonsense you inevitably get in DF threads. Ignore it; it has no relevance or value.

Princess Bubblegum · Sep 22, 2020

The game is still CPU bound?

dmr87 · Sep 22, 2020

This might be playable after a few patches but I'm out for now.

Good work though DF.

Landy828 · Sep 22, 2020

Just got done watching the video, looks amazing with Ray tracing on. Is this version the same as the console version?

Or is it the PC version remastered?

Princess Bubblegum · Sep 22, 2020

Landy828 said:
Just got done watching the video, looks amazing with Ray tracing on. Is this version the same as the console version?

Or is it the PC version remastered?

Every version of Crysis Remastered used the PS3/360 build of the game as the base.

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