Thanks! And real quick is the HDR issue on "X" as well or is just the PC version that has HDR issues? Thank you again!
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Digital Foundry: Crackdown 3 Analysis - Everything you need to know (Xbox One X/S/PC)
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Thanks! And real quick is the HDR issue on "X" as well or is just the PC version that has HDR issues? Thank you again!
PC version's HDR is broken for me. Xbox is fine, as far as I know.
Thanks for the detailed analysis! And the remarkably clean video. It's clear that you guys know how to get YouTube to do the right thing when it comes to getting good quality video. Those opening few shots of the game that you present are absolutely breathtaking.
Well. You're not wrong. Incompetence is not the same as maliciousness, is all I'm saying. But I'm actually mostly referring to the people on YouTube and social media who are parroting these things without really thinking about what they're saying. I generally trust the professional reviewers to do their due diligence (though that's been stretched quite a bit recently), even if I know I will disagree with them on many things. Again, you may not be wrong, I just don't think it's fair to turn it around and accuse them of bias or ill-will, when it could be something much more mundane.
Wow, the IQ is marvelous.
Next time I hear someone talking about 360-esque graphics, I'll need them to produce receipts.
Next time I hear someone talking about 360-esque graphics, I'll need them to produce receipts.
I wasn't accusing them of any bias or ill-will. Just stating that there seems to be a cloud of negativity surrounding the game that's making people even "professionals" throw nuance and reasonable discourse out the window.
Review thread had me bummed earlier today since I have been looking forward to the game for so damn long. This video has me psyched again. I love the visual style myself. The HDR will be splendid. I also own an X.
This video truly has made me psyched again so thank you for that DF.
This video truly has made me psyched again so thank you for that DF.
Because the video is pretty positive about the technical breakdown. If this was a framey game, you know this would be a 8 page thread.
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Easy Allies and others say different. I'll include them in the peanut gallery list. Also 30fps? We know how DF got down at the beginning of the Gen bringing up shit like "but if your friends play online on live" or if you prefer "Xbox controller" just to paint a certain console in a brighter light during break downs. Metrics thy got called out on and never used before until Ps4 started this Gen winning breakdowns.
Iq looks good I'll give it tht much but the graphics look OK imo, nothing great at least on Xbox One.
https://www.patreon.com/posts/crackdown-3-in-24692779
"The world is boring, the humor is stale, the missions are repetitive, and the visuals are surprisingly poor on the Xbox One" according to tht review.
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Played it on both a base xbox one and PC. Didn't have any stuttering problems. Also, the game looks great and the IQ is really clean.
Is the HDR in FH4 broken too? Because it was just completely missing in FH3 PC.
Thanks for the vid!
Playing gives me a much better idea of the good job they've done at creating a fun playground to blow shit up in you just can't get by screenshots.
Playing gives me a much better idea of the good job they've done at creating a fun playground to blow shit up in you just can't get by screenshots.
Awesome video, thanks for your hard work on this!
I really dig the aesthetics of this game, and I'm looking forward to checking this tomorrow. Can't wait to return to some Crackdown goodness.
I really dig the aesthetics of this game, and I'm looking forward to checking this tomorrow. Can't wait to return to some Crackdown goodness.
Find me one single video that I did which specifically mentions controllers and online play. That is a stupid metric to judge something by.
30fps locked in an open world UE4 game is quite an achievement. How many open world game this gen are at 60fps? It's not very common is it?
You could've mentioned Gears 4 or Gears 5 - both look better than CD3 but they also try to accomplish different things. I have yet to see a game with the same world scale like CD3. And no, not scale in different set pieces but scale in you can climb on a tower and have the same scale as CD3 delivers.
For multiplayer, yes. But watch the video to find info for single-player.
Played on my pc for a bit. Killed the first "boss". That wasn't fun but on par with the bosses in Crackdown 1.
Orb hunting is fun as usual.
The graphics are ok and clean. Nothing to boast about but at least it's running at a locked 60fps for me. My 2080 is so bored during gameplay. I can't remember a new game that i could play with max settings in ultrawide (3440Ă—1440 ) @ 60fps and my 2080 is nearly silent.
Will play a bit more before i decide what i think about it but so far i don't think i'll play this for more than 2-3 hours.
Loved CD1 by the way. But something feels off...
Orb hunting is fun as usual.
The graphics are ok and clean. Nothing to boast about but at least it's running at a locked 60fps for me. My 2080 is so bored during gameplay. I can't remember a new game that i could play with max settings in ultrawide (3440Ă—1440 ) @ 60fps and my 2080 is nearly silent.
Will play a bit more before i decide what i think about it but so far i don't think i'll play this for more than 2-3 hours.
Loved CD1 by the way. But something feels off...
Very nice video. Looks very...clean. Antiseptic, even. Colorful but quiet (almost dead world as far as normal NPCs go) and it's easy to see the compromises made to fit it successfully on an OG Xbox One (light traffic, few NPCs compared to its contemporaries). I can see why it would have been pegged for its visuals because outside of the neon lights everywhere, there isn't a lot interesting visually. Things being labeled in the video as praise-worthy design choices (eg. large empty-ish rooms) strike me more as performance compromises and consequences. Lateral movement animations are very 2007. Otherwise, it seems to perform well with what they had to work with. Needless to say, visual polish was not what made or broke this game's reviews.
PC stuttering will keep me away as much as all the other issues the game has that have resulted in the average scoring it has received.
PC stuttering will keep me away as much as all the other issues the game has that have resulted in the average scoring it has received.
Expect dynamic resolutions for almost all MS first party games from here on out.
The goal is that the next box will be able to boost these games to whatever it's max output it without a patch required.
Yeah. Now every time someone says the game looks bad, you can just show the video to Them and bam, speechless haters.
I think this is one of those games that doesn't look very good on a 1080p compressed video. The art style just doesn't mesh well with whatever compression algorithm YouTube uses.
I also think we're getting to the point where we are hitting limits of internet video showing us graphical fidelity increases, and people's ability to discern a bad game from bad compression. You look at the MK11 reveal and some people are saying it looks like MKX, and meanwhile I'm looking at 4K footage captured from the reveal and I'm thinking it looks like the best looking game I've ever seen. Yet Maximilian Dood, who went to the event, says even that 4k capture footage provided from the MK11 reveal doesn't do the game justice.
It all depends on capture software also and encoding. Its always funny how better footage looks from real youtubers to sites like IGN. For Youtubers its their main thing to get the best quality and best uploads. Where for example IGN its one of the many capture events they go to. Also lookat this DF vid. Even if its on YT they could really show the quality of the game because they always nail the capture and encoding.
The internet has enough trolls without comments like this.
But DF themselves also have admitted YouTube doesn't do games justice by the fact that they independently host higher quality videos.
Offcourse. I mean even with YT video's there is a way to show the strenghts of the game. I mean compare the DF vid to tho the IGN review quality wise.
The issue for Crackdown 3 is that the strongest aspect by far is the clean/sharp IQ, something Youtube isn't really made to show off as well.
Also John has an incredibly eye for moving the game camera and capturing the game assets in a way that makes all the hard work that went into them look great.
Oh, yeah and the encoding :D
You're right on that, they have tricks like slow motion, zooms, slow pans, or not moving at all.
This is so awesome. I can't wait to finally get home this afternoon, kick back, and enjoy Crackdown...
What GPU do you guys have? Wondering if this is an AMD/Nvidia problem.
Thanks to all at Digital Foundry for always putting up such consistently great videos. After seeing all the hate that Crackdown 3 was gathering this positive video was highly refreshing and I'm looking forward to trying it out on my X tonight. Seems you and I have similar game taste John!
I was joking.
To be honest anybody who says this game looks from 2007 is either a troll or they're fucking blind.
Been noticing a lot of stuttering on my computer as well. I have it installed on an older SSD, a Samsung 850 500GB I believe, but it's still an SSD.
Most of the time it'll be like it's there and then it's gone while I'm running around, but it's very noticable, and it seems to be happening frequently.
edit: Oh my God, disregard that. I'm a dummy and forgot to close Adventure Capitalist from running in the background. I don't notice any stuttering now when I run around hunting for orbs now.
Most of the time it'll be like it's there and then it's gone while I'm running around, but it's very noticable, and it seems to be happening frequently.
edit: Oh my God, disregard that. I'm a dummy and forgot to close Adventure Capitalist from running in the background. I don't notice any stuttering now when I run around hunting for orbs now.
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