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Digital Foundry: Control Ultimate Edition on PlayStation 5: The Next Generation Tech Review
- Thread starter chandoog
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Are you in the US? All the Ps5 store and mobile app show are the ps4 ultimate edition
It would be silly, which is why no game really tried anything like that. Just imagine how that sequence where they jump through like 5 worlds consecutively would play out if you had to wait 20 seconds between each jump? It looks like a fun rollercoaster ride the way it is now, and it would be a terrible slog otherwise.
Now this is pure speculation, but I can also imagine that the R&C game will have some kind of dimension gun where you can jump between worlds by shooting it, and I can't see how anyone would seriously entertain that design if you had to wait 20 seconds every time you fire such a gun.
I played it on the PS4 (PS Now), but there is no way I won't be playing it in 60 fps. RT isn't worth it, unless you do what Insomniac did with Spider-Man (how I played it).
I'm hoping we'll see more of that. Compromised RT, but still there and at 60 fps and a lower res. That's the way to go, IMO!
I'm hoping we'll see more of that. Compromised RT, but still there and at 60 fps and a lower res. That's the way to go, IMO!
It depends on the game. They are still on the 2000 series at best.
They habe 1070, 2060 and 2080 rigs with varying VRAM configs. The best is a 2080 with 14GB.
I only use it on my phone, 1080p TV or Macbook Pro so I am fine with 1080p streaming.
I am sure it does and after the PS3/360 and PS4/XB1 gen, I am used to play the graphically less console versions already.
But now with Geforce Now and cheap PC games, I could just stream more impressive versions cheaply.
It's "free" though and I am curious how the Dualsense feels in a shooter, the bit I experienced it in Worms was nice.
You have never even used it and try to downplay it🙄
Geforce Now is pretty good for me, playing Cyberpunk 2077 on RT ultra settings on a 65" 1080p plasma and it looks breath
Damn! Had me in the first half. Ran upstairs to start the download lmao.
The Quantum Break One X patch was allegedly done by one person
I'm assuming Remedy has thrown similar "resources" at this
I'm assuming Remedy has thrown similar "resources" at this
Are people simply reacting to a settings screenshot instead of watching the video. What are people expecting from these consoles, we have a demanding game, which still looks great running at a stable frame rate on console.
Where "absolutely" means "relatively small" in practical terms which is what they said, what you claimed they didn't say. No one said it's identical to PC, but it's pretty good and certainly not disappointing like many people here claim.
Ok, let me tell you what I mean by platform warring. Platform warring on this forum is when Playstation fans claim Xbox has no games, when Xbox fans claim 12 is two times bigger than 10 and when PC fans claim that if you see a lower resolution reflection on a glass at 200% zoom and it's not 120fps, it's "disappointing".
The only problem is, for the first two cases you get warnings and bans, but in the third case, you get by because "all you're saying is that clearly it's not the same". This place has double standards when it comes to this.
I'm currently playing control on a laptop with integrated graphics so this looks pretty good to me.
Without utilizing DLSS, 1440p30 with RT = 2060 Super, 1440p60 without RT = 2070 super. With DLSS you could drop down a tier for each.
That's according to wccftech anyway.
Tried this on XSX (already owned the UE) as not showing for me on PS5 yet.
It's pretty jaggy in the 60fps mode. Especially in motion, I'm wondering if reconstruction is used to achieve the 1440p as the picture definitely breaks up more and jaggies become obvious as you move the camera etc. That aside, the framerate seems locked to 60fps albeit difficult to confirm for sure due to VRR. Look forward to trying the PS5 version to compare tomorrow.
It's pretty jaggy in the 60fps mode. Especially in motion, I'm wondering if reconstruction is used to achieve the 1440p as the picture definitely breaks up more and jaggies become obvious as you move the camera etc. That aside, the framerate seems locked to 60fps albeit difficult to confirm for sure due to VRR. Look forward to trying the PS5 version to compare tomorrow.
I forget which RT setting it was on PC but it produced some pretty awful looking dithering and "static", so the fact that most of the RT is toned down or off is probably a good thing. It's too bad that even THAT doesn't let the PS5 version crank up other specs, but at least it looks passable and is playable, which iirc it was pretty terrible on PS4.
Im sure they are using higher settings than the PS5 tho, no?
I thought this was not being released until tomorrow (as far as the Next Gen update)?
Yeah, looks like most are medium+ with MSAA at 4x which is pretty silly and would drop performance by a good amount.
You can download the UE now, if it's out in your region . It's 1am here and is 42.5.GB
It only kits scraped it over the line for being playable on the base consoles, so yeah, calling it last gen is a bit of a stretch.
It's already the 2nd Feb here in the UK, update went live an hour ago.
The preset automatically turns on MSAA thats probably why they did not disable it. 4xMSAA has a roughly 10fps hit which is significant.
Thanks! Thought it was a worldwide thing. I am in the U.S. so nothing here as of yet! Did you play the RT Mode on Series X yet? If so, how is it?
Had the game installed for a few weeks on Xbox Series X, it was just a 272 MB file...kept waiting for it to update to the full game. Ended up uninstalling that, and then downloading it again, and now it's the full 42 GB install!
I am in the US, by the way. Just waiting for it to finish downloading it, hoping I can play it tonight.
I am in the US, by the way. Just waiting for it to finish downloading it, hoping I can play it tonight.
You won't be playing your consoles much in the second half of the generation, will you? :D
Anyway, looking forward to trying Control next gen tomorrow! I've been waiting for this to do a replay.
It looks really fucking great and the dualsense implementation is A+
Someone said the PS5 version is only like 25GB. I wonder why?Had the game installed for a few weeks on Xbox Series X, it was just a 272 MB file...kept waiting for it to update to the full game. Ended up uninstalling that, and then downloading it again, and now it's the full 42 GB install!
I am in the US, by the way. Just waiting for it to finish downloading it, hoping I can play it tonight.
lmao....yeah I get that. I been playing a ton of 60fps games on both PS5/Series X and when I go to a 30fps it can be jarring...but it also depends on how they implement it. But yeah...these new consoles are spoiling many of us with the 60fps.
RT GI setting introduces noisy indirect shadows: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=879&v=blbu0g9DAGA
For whatever reason, 30FPS really felt pretty bad in this game on Pro, even in an empty rooms, where I'm sure the framerate actually was 30, and it was evenly paced. It was hard for me to pinpoint why, but I suspect it's due to the kind of motion blur it uses, and a more sudden camera acceleration it had..
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Auto HDR won't work on the Series X version or will it? It's a shame there isn't native support for HDR, Control seems perfect for it.
Played this on PS4 Pro. Will probably do the raytracing mode, since during my play through (LOVED the game, fun platinum too), I was saying to my friends "this game screams raytracing".
But that 60fps footage too....
I am glad to hear the haptics and adaptive triggers are excellent!! I am excited to play the game's dlc.
Have people been able to do the workaround where their save from the Control original PS4 can move to Control Ultimate PS4 to Control Ultimate on PS5?
But that 60fps footage too....
I am glad to hear the haptics and adaptive triggers are excellent!! I am excited to play the game's dlc.
Have people been able to do the workaround where their save from the Control original PS4 can move to Control Ultimate PS4 to Control Ultimate on PS5?
I wonder if there is gonna be a "big" difference between the PS5 and Series X version. Maybe higher resolution on Series X, like it was the case on Hitman 3?
It's Disabled.
60fps mode for the with.
Framerate is actually unlocked in Ray Tracing Photo mode , it is surprisingly smooth outside of combat
Being able to switch between RT off and on showed me how subtle RT is. I wouldn't say it looks better with it on, just different. If DF didnt point this stuff out with 200% zooms I wouldnt notice it.
Game looks really soft on PS5 too.
Game looks really soft on PS5 too.
The Ultimate Edition on PS4 automatically uses your regular edition save file, no problem there.
But as I understand it, the PS5 version creates a new save file and can never import a PS4 save file from either edition.
No they will be exactly the same and we will sing a harmony song
Series X version is live in the US. I could download it and give some impressions but I'm ultimately going to wind up doing this playthrough on the PS5 version because of the Dualsense stuff.
