It says raytracing data. Guess that is different then a "pack"?
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Digital Foundry CoD: Black Ops Cold War - Ps5 vs Series X vs Series S
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I'd expect that the assets/shaders in the basic version will be somewhat baked-in for lighting purposes. To apply RT lighting/shadows, you'd need a clean copy of the asset/shader/whatever.
So some sort of meta for all objects in game that the ray tracing engine would use?
I can see RT shadows in the VGT video. However, I'm also seeing the muzzle flashes not appearing in their video as well for the Series S. I'm almost certain at this point that a recent update might've porked things up for both the Series X and S. The only video without any issues seems to be this one and it's the oldest video from 12 days ago.
COD Black OPS: Cold War | One - OneX - Series S - Series X | Graphics & FPS Comparison
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2 things I can think of.
1. Pre compiled shaders that change with RT enabled (this should be a given).
2. Perhaps an offline static BVH - which is something the series consoles can do.
Cold war
Probaably the free space was just missing as you mentioned. Althoug sometimes I need to manually check for updates and packs as my Series X sometimes does not offer me those for some reason. The last update for Cold War for example didn't show up even a day after until I manually checked and updated.
Probaably the free space was just missing as you mentioned. Althoug sometimes I need to manually check for updates and packs as my Series X sometimes does not offer me those for some reason. The last update for Cold War for example didn't show up even a day after until I manually checked and updated.
Very interesting, I turned RT off as I encountered these dips and didn't enjoy them. Maybe should have kept them on for the campaign.Correct. The pictures from VG Tech clearly show this:
And in the description to their video:
So clearly a bug, or some weird issue. It's crazy how some in this thread are so very quick to amplify it as "XSX better at raytracing", even when DF are saying they encountered the drops incredibly infrequently (like, the two times it was shown). Outside this extremely odd behaviour - which no matter what it is, is certainly not indicative of a lack of power - the 60fps+RT mode performs identically on both systems.
Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S Frame Rate Comparison
Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S frame rate comparison comparing the games framerate/fps in the campaign using the 120fps and Ray Traci...www.youtube.com
You should put that in the OP now that we found out the framerate drops on PS5 in the RT mode are most probably a bug. Here we have actual data showing it.
Correct. The pictures from VG Tech clearly show this:
And in the description to their video:
So clearly a bug, or some weird issue. It's crazy how some in this thread are so very quick to amplify it as "XSX better at raytracing", even when DF are saying they encountered the drops incredibly infrequently (like, the two times it was shown). Outside this extremely odd behaviour - which no matter what it is, is certainly not indicative of a lack of power - the 60fps+RT mode performs identically on both systems.
Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S Frame Rate Comparison
Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S frame rate comparison comparing the games framerate/fps in the campaign using the 120fps and Ray Traci...
Defintively disable RT for MP and Zombie. It's awful and performs really bad.
This is what I saw when I downloaded the game to my Series X
Weird that it seems the series S doesn't download the file automatically
Weird that it seems the series S doesn't download the file automatically
It's so weird that they're locking the options screen to exclusively fetching 120hz mode from the system menu on PS5. I was scratching my head over the greyed out options for so long. Also, the separate non-automatic RT downloads on Xbox? What are the devs doing here?
Allowing the user to manage the SSD space? Not that I necessarily agree with these options, but you know.. They are there.
I did say earlier in the thread I'd imagine those drops were more likely to be a bug or something non load related, as there's not a lot going on in the said given scenes to warrant frame drops.
Usually if it's GPU load related, there will be something intense or especially taxing going on in the scene, eg a huge number of enemies, crazy amounts of destruction and effects, an unusual draw distance or amount of geometry etc, but that isn't happening here.
My guess is the momentary drops are some call or streaming issue or something, especially given the same drops don't always occur in the exact same scenes.
By same GPU I meant RDNA2.
And make no mistake, I never thought that it would be enough. Hell, I along with others tried to warn people lol.
I think he means the resolution of the ray traced reflections, those were 720p on the XSS.
Could be a bug. There are FPS difference and I've seen changes in the dot light next to the door. I dunno if that's down to the picture being captured at different moments or not.Correct. The pictures from VG Tech clearly show this:
This genuinely looks great. I actually just played this mission about an hour ago on PC on an RTX 3080, and I'm still impressed a $300 console can run this good, with such high quality assets, and with some form of Ray tracing. I'm really interested to see how things pan out for the system over the next few years.
Which if true would be ridiculous, because probably about 1% of players, if that, have a TV with VRR.
So are they essentially using the same engine as Call of Duty modern warfare at that also had RT shadows...?
Yes, I was going to say this as well. The game has some random bugs on all versions, Motion Blur can freak out and set the entire world with an almost DoF pass so it looks like you need to rub your eyes.
Losing Input for a second suddenly or crashing out to dash.
Sudden dips(like this) so it is making testing inconsistent.
This is most likely gonna be the closest console generation ever, both in terms of capabilities and performance.
With all the updates and bug findings this basically washes out to all 3 systems comfortably hitting their performance targets with excellent visuals, and potentially minor individual wins in different categories.
COD isn't really my jam anymore but they are damn impressive games so it's good to see these results.
With all the updates and bug findings this basically washes out to all 3 systems comfortably hitting their performance targets with excellent visuals, and potentially minor individual wins in different categories.
COD isn't really my jam anymore but they are damn impressive games so it's good to see these results.
Well if you like playing games on Xbox or Game Pass, then everything you play or do on the box is the best version available. I can't imagine waiting a year from now to maybe get it discounted $50. I'd already have spent 100s of hours that could have been better.
This so cool, didn't know you could split downloads, this is system wide ?This is what I saw when I downloaded the game to my Series X
Weird that it seems the series S doesn't download the file automatically
So in the end both versions are 100% identical?
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It's an option on CODs for a long time.
Im not sure why this would come as a surprise tbh. Everyone well informed consistently saidboth consoles were pretty powerful, and never 2 consoles of same generation were so close in terms of raw performance.
Very likely the common denominator is extremely similar, but we have to wait for full 1st party games (not crossgen) to really tap into each individual hardware advantages (velocity architecture or geometry engine).
That's some very good news really.
I know, it's just funny how before people realizing it was a bug both versions were 99% identical and now they are 100%.
And yeah, it's good news.
So if this game is 1080p+, 60fps with RT on Series S.... Why is Assassins Creed Valhalla 30fps on Series S?
Because it probably would have had to be sub 1080p to achieve 60fps.
Will check on Series X for others. But definitely the way to go, hope more devs make use of it.
Man, I'm really not a CoD guy at all, but I'm tempted to give it a shot, especially with the DualSense support, that seemed great.
All around seems like a pretty well done game technically on both platforms, too.
Their communication while might not have been explicit, did try to paint the differences as only resolution.
I would say, though, for the most part, this expectation was popularized by fans more so than Microsoft themselves.
If anyone goes through the many threads on ERA on this subject, there'll be a lot of posts affirming that the games will be identical to the X and the only difference will be resolution, "because that's how it works on PC," even though that totally is not how it works on PC. But I digress.
All around seems like a pretty well done game technically on both platforms, too.
Microsoft's marketing does deserve a lot of flack over that 1440p claim, because that was clearly going to be mostly bullshit.
Their communication while might not have been explicit, did try to paint the differences as only resolution.
I would say, though, for the most part, this expectation was popularized by fans more so than Microsoft themselves.
If anyone goes through the many threads on ERA on this subject, there'll be a lot of posts affirming that the games will be identical to the X and the only difference will be resolution, "because that's how it works on PC," even though that totally is not how it works on PC. But I digress.
Is there a difference with XSX and PS5 being sold as 4K machines?
those couple drops in the 40s for PS5 are irrelevant, both for the experience (it's few and only last like one second each) and for the technical analysis, since they don't appear to be caused by anything special happening onscreen, so most likely a bug or something hanging up while streaming assets or whatever.
XSX and PS5 are 99,9% the same here.
XSX and PS5 are 99,9% the same here.
Didn't Sony stamp 8K on the box? Is this like some upscale magic?
Glad to hear that issues on Series S and PS5 are gonna get fixed or are a non issue. Its good for all players. Dont understand that wish that something has to better. Enjoy the next gen on the console of your choice.
Why would they have RT as a download option and not just have it available on the disc or even just download it automatically?
Ahh ok. I suppose that would make sense. Hopefully it's something they can fix, though admittedly the impact seems fairly temporary and infrequent either way.
