Yup. I just checked. DF videos are fucked up for the Xbox's.
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Digital Foundry CoD: Black Ops Cold War - Ps5 vs Series X vs Series S
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Yup. I just checked. DF videos are fucked up for the Xbox's.
Also according to this test, from old XB1/XB1X to XSS/XSX, all 4 version do have gun smoke(starting 8:47 is chopper scene).
The funny thing is someone brought it up earlier than myself in this thread and he was ignored, lol. The other funny thing is that DeBit's video came out 12 days ago.
Time to threadmark? Dictator Something seems to be gone wrong on DF Series S.I just saw this on reddit. Bullshit or no??
Ray Tracing is available on Xbox Series S version of Call of Duty: Cold War
Xbox platform new and discussion.old.reddit.com
Dark1x
Definitely /s
You know what the difference is? Reliable insiders talking about how awesome the PS5 tools are, while reporting issues with the new Xbox tools. That's why there are some people talking about tools and I don't know what's wrong with that. Unless we shouldn't trust resetera or other insiders anymore in anything.
Hmm that Series S thing, if true, seems like an honest mistake, but is one of the bigger oversights i can think of from a DF video. Hope they just private the video while they triple check, it's not entirely fair to the devs if they leave it up and it's wrong.
I was under the impression that ray tracing on Series X was coming in extremely hot, or it wouldn't be ready launch. Things like Halo Infinite (before it was delayed) not launching with ray tracing, and DMCV Special Edition saying ray tracing would come via a later patch on Series X (though I think this turned out not to be the case?).
It's not that I think Series X isn't as capable as PS5 -- quite the opposite. I was just bracing for things not to be 100% ready at launch. I fully expect Series X to have incredibly impressive ray tracing implementations in future releases. And it's great to see it's already handling it well.
Correct. The pictures from VG Tech clearly show this:
And in the description to their video:
So clearly a bug, or some weird issue. It's crazy how some in this thread are so very quick to amplify it as "XSX better at raytracing", even when DF are saying they encountered the drops incredibly infrequently (like, the two times it was shown). Outside this extremely odd behaviour - which no matter what it is, is certainly not indicative of a lack of power - the 60fps+RT mode performs identically on both systems.
Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S Frame Rate Comparison
Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S frame rate comparison comparing the games framerate/fps in the campaign using the 120fps and Ray Traci...www.youtube.com
This is actually pretty interesting. So other than this bug that doesn't show up everytime, the XsX and the PS5 are pretty much identical in the 60fps RT mode while the PS5 has a slight edge in the 120fps mode.
It's weird that the bug on the PS5 doesn't show on every run. Might it be a cache thing?
Anyways it seems like the tools have room to improve on both systems.
I have to say that I'm already positively surprised by the performance on these machines. I think we are in for an absolutely stellar generation.
Why would people switch to next gen the video. 30-41 on Xbox One during the chopper scene. Jesus christ.
This guys is pretty informative and impartial. I don't know anyone else who's corroborated these details though. But maybe worth keeping in mind. He thinks the PS5 performs better under CPU load so far - whether that's an API bottleneck, toolkit issue, or the hardware itself.
Honest mistake I'm sure, if it is a mistake here, but there's more places than ERA shitting on the Series S from DF's video.
Damn if that's the case, then is COD cold war really the one neutral game where no platform comes out a clear winner? Interesting gen we have coming.
Seems to be the first game tested so far that maintains a pretty solid 120fps (think Gears 5 did too) across both consoles. Results from other games were making me a bit doubtful it was worth it, but this proves they can make it there!
I think Series S actually runs really well. In scenes where the xbox one X starts to drop frames consistently the series S stays strong while looking better.
Will be interesting to see DF analysis if they do get it running with RT.
People think the the series S will hold back next gen, but once support for ps4/xbox one is dropped I think the console will hold its own.
Will be interesting to see DF analysis if they do get it running with RT.
People think the the series S will hold back next gen, but once support for ps4/xbox one is dropped I think the console will hold its own.
This generation seems like it's going to be XSX/PS5 trading blows, even within the same game. But in the end, the differences seem like they will be minor and we'll be putting these games under a microscope more than ever. So owning one console over the other strictly for multiplatform games doesn't seem like the way to go either way. But I still find it interesting seeing which version excels in what area.
As for CoD, it seems like the closest game we've seen so far.
As for CoD, it seems like the closest game we've seen so far.
Chill man I am just joking.
Plus games are barely taking advantage of new hardware and have tons of issues. Just same scene on vgtech have difference performance for ps5
They tested at least one of the scenes DF did and this is from the VGTech video description:
" There was an issue on PS5 where the frame rate could randomly drop below 60fps during scenes that it previously ran at a solid 60fps. This issue wasn't encountered on Xbox Series X. https://bit.ly/2IHsqPN"
This could be also a bug like XSS no RT/Xbox version no smoke thing.
I'm not usually responding but I've asked Tom to check on this. I have not played or installed the game on Series S myself so I have no idea but it seems plausible. If it's found to be the case, we'll get a second video out showcasing the issue. This would be extremely bizarre, though, as we've never seen an entire option like this locked behind a separate download pack that doesn't download automatically.I just saw this on reddit. Bullshit or no??
Ray Tracing is available on Xbox Series S version of Call of Duty: Cold War
Xbox platform new and discussion.
Dark1x
Looks like one of the better launch games in terms of technical performance and polish with only minor issues present. Series S continues to slightly disappoint.
I expect a lot of comparisons to go this way in the coming months and years.
Also, in general, regarding all DF PS5/Series X comparison threads: It doesn't get much more disingenuous than posting a single screenshot out of a comparison video that goes on for 10-20 minutes. This is a poster child example of taking stuff out of context and fishing for reactions with a snapshot that doesn't represent the actual impressions discussed in the video.
I expect a lot of comparisons to go this way in the coming months and years.
Also, in general, regarding all DF PS5/Series X comparison threads: It doesn't get much more disingenuous than posting a single screenshot out of a comparison video that goes on for 10-20 minutes. This is a poster child example of taking stuff out of context and fishing for reactions with a snapshot that doesn't represent the actual impressions discussed in the video.
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Yep, I agree with this. Both excibits issues in different ports.
Biggest take away from me is that the incentive to buying a Series S later on this gen (for MSFT exclusives) is constantly lowering.
Again, really exciting to see that the premium consoles are essentially the same, with slight advantage for the XSX in RT mode, and PS5 in 120hz mode.
Like I've said before, this will be a big defining generations for consoles. Looks like the gap between decent gaming PCs and consoles are not as significant anymore...
Again, really exciting to see that the premium consoles are essentially the same, with slight advantage for the XSX in RT mode, and PS5 in 120hz mode.
Like I've said before, this will be a big defining generations for consoles. Looks like the gap between decent gaming PCs and consoles are not as significant anymore...
It's definitely bizzare and you wonder what the problem is. It can't be the Xbox One S version either. Seems to just be bugged for whatever reason.
But shout out to your team. You are doing incredible work and it's good to have back on resetera.
Ok so there is a RT pack? I don't know if it's a good or a bad idea. Benefit is definitely less storage needed, but the downside is some users (like Tom from DF) miss it by accident.
If you had poor performance metrics for exclusive titles to go off now, there might be an argument here.
CoDBlops is on 7(?) different platforms. It really shouldn't be used as a yardstick for anything related to MS first party output.
Hey man, we love your work and appreciate everything you guys do. Keep it up!
This and it seems Tom from DF didn't have the RT pack installed by accident.
Right, but I just started the download on my own Series S, and the RT pack is automatically checked to download. So why didn't it work for Tom? That's what we'll investigate. Possibly the system was low on space and optional downloads were missed? We'll know soon.
maybe something like starting the game from rest mode? I think it happened on handfull of games on PS4
The thread on reddit says its abit buggy and that for some people it only worked when doing a full new install. I dont know if thats true.
Could be a OS thing maybe yeah. That the game indeed installs less when you have lower storage space and then more when you have enough. Dont know if that could be a thing.
Yes, I understand that, but going off what we have so far it's not looking so promising that it'll be pulled off. Maybe ignorant but it doesn't seem like a marked improvement over something like the Xbox One X. I think, rather from what I have seen so far, that I'll probably save up a bit more and get a SX.
Lot of focus atm is still on resolution etc. Where Series S and One X arent really competing. The difference will become fast more clear the more we get more games.
Then the CPU, SDD, RDNA2 features really come in to play. Remember the console is already playing for example Watchdogs with raytracing or having 120fps modes within games.
mangdo
The Xbox One X has lots of RAM bandwidth and GPU grunt. But that's about it and Series S, albeit having a weaker GPU on paper, is more efficient and modern. But the big differences are the CPU and SSD, which will enable new gameplay experiences not possible on Xbox One X.
I think Series X is definitely the better option, if you want a console in the Xbox ecosystem. However I disagree that this isn't a marked improvement over something like the Xbox One X, because the Series S hardware allows games not possible on Xbox One X. It has a huge CPU & I/O advantage and with that a significantly more efficient RAM pool usage.
The Xbox One X has lots of RAM bandwidth and GPU grunt. But that's about it and Series S, albeit having a weaker GPU on paper, is more efficient and modern. But the big differences are the CPU and SSD, which will enable new gameplay experiences not possible on Xbox One X.
I think Series X is definitely the better option, if you want a console in the Xbox ecosystem. However I disagree that this isn't a marked improvement over something like the Xbox One X, because the Series S hardware allows games not possible on Xbox One X. It has a huge CPU & I/O advantage and with that a significantly more efficient RAM pool usage.
There's some Series S gameplay here and this one definitely looks like is using the RT shadows.
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If it being time stamped for some reason play it from the beginning.
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If it being time stamped for some reason play it from the beginning.
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so with this new info about the RT pack on Series S.. is it now back to being "The little box that could"? :)
Thanks guys. I'm not planning on getting one of the new Series soon because demand is crazy, but once I do I will have to keep these in mind and also as mentioned before, we'll have a much clearer picture at this point.
I also just have this nagging feeling that Series S versions won't have as much TLC from the devs (hope I'm wrong) - we'll have to see how good GDK ends up being.