The Campaign is one of the best looking games I've ever seen, the level of quality at 60fps with ray traced shadows is insane. It's awesome that the fidelity mode is 60fps and the performance mode is 120fps
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Digital Foundry CoD: Black Ops Cold War - Ps5 vs Series X vs Series S
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Every single mainline CoD game on console barring Black Ops III on 360/PS3 has run at 60fps, has looked great for its time and has pushed tech. This isn't really the title to be drawing results from either.
I want the Series X version for the smoother RTX 60 fps mode but the PS5 version for the triggers.
That's a total change
You would be right and 99%of those who comment about it don't even have a TV that is capable of it.
XSX handling raytracing better, and PS5 handling 120fps better is the exact opposite of what I expected.
Well I remember one df article stating that another mode for the cpu is suppose to add increased performance for developers later on
It only happens in a couple of scenes like DF mentioned, so I don't see how it's that noteworthy
The only question I have is does Reagan look even better in 4K?
nice, looks like DF now has a sponsor.[i/SPOILER]
nice, looks like DF now has a sponsor.[i/SPOILER]
Effectively the same game.
Slight trade offs on both consoles.
This is what the gen will be like.
Slight trade offs on both consoles.
This is what the gen will be like.
If it's multiplayer, you gotta keep it at 120fps, but for campaign? You're shooting bots. 60 fps should be fine so you can really stretch the legs on the ray-traced shadows.
Really solid video from DF. They have done a tremendous amount of work over the last few weeks and it's been great to get their perspective of these early games on PS5/Series X/S.
I think for a CoD title that came in apparently as not the intended title for 2020, they have done a tremendous job with it overall, it looks and plays great.
I think for a CoD title that came in apparently as not the intended title for 2020, they have done a tremendous job with it overall, it looks and plays great.
Me neither. I may get killed in MP but the different trigger pulls are just so goddamn cool.
Couple of interesting parallels here to DMC V here actually. Overall both super close.
Series X performing better in RT modes, tho mostly only in a couple of big set pieces
PS5 performing better in high refresh rate modes, though this time mostly in a big set piece
Series X performing better in RT modes, tho mostly only in a couple of big set pieces
PS5 performing better in high refresh rate modes, though this time mostly in a big set piece
I knew this was gonna be a more interesting comparison. With ray tracing on, the series X performs much better during certain set pieces, while at 120 fps the PS5 is slightly better. With VRR the experience is just as smooth on the X, though
We've been told many times that the series X would better handle ray tracing, so perhaps this is the first game to showcase that. Either way, these consoles are really close as was expected, so everyone should be satisfied with that.
It's pretty cool that they mentioned the dualsense support. COD is arguably the best game outside of Astro which makes use of the adaptive triggers
We've been told many times that the series X would better handle ray tracing, so perhaps this is the first game to showcase that. Either way, these consoles are really close as was expected, so everyone should be satisfied with that.
It's pretty cool that they mentioned the dualsense support. COD is arguably the best game outside of Astro which makes use of the adaptive triggers
I will say that sun shadows are the only place where RT shadows are noticeable properly in this game. For spotlight shadows and AO, it's extremely subtle and not worth the performance hit on PC. It's cause even the non ray traced high/ultra shadows are soft as well. The only place where you'd find spotlight RT shadows to be noticeable is places which would otherwise require usage of Screen space shadows, and since the game doesn't have screen space shadows for things like leaves on ground etc RT spotlight shadows are noticeable but in my entire playthrough I noticed one instance of this happening.
Sun shadows on the other hand, are noticeable but only the Vietnam mission is the one where it's super obvious.
Sun shadows on the other hand, are noticeable but only the Vietnam mission is the one where it's super obvious.
Holy shit!
The amount of depth the shadows add to the Series X is huge. It's like a piece of artwork flat colored vs. shaded.
Didn't even realise I was playing the 120FPS version of it on XSX 🤣
Also I know multiple people who have had their console hard lock on Vietnam helicopter/village section. Seems to be a problem area performance wise in more ways than one.
Also I know multiple people who have had their console hard lock on Vietnam helicopter/village section. Seems to be a problem area performance wise in more ways than one.
Probably worth it for SP.
Here I am impatiently waiting for PC to console comparisons. Sounds like the console version just has RT shadows, not the GI on PC? Looks like it's at least the RT sun shadows, but not indoors judging by the not so variable indoor penumbra?
But dropping below 60 with RT on is disappointing. They need to have RT + framerate modes on these systems. I know a lot of people would take that over full 4K...
But dropping below 60 with RT on is disappointing. They need to have RT + framerate modes on these systems. I know a lot of people would take that over full 4K...
I hope developers don't start expecting everyone to have VRR displays and not fully optimize their game/engines.
We will see if the regular performance on Xbox ends up improving relative to PS5 at all over the next 6-12 months in multiplats for these comparisons, but the ray tracing perf being higher on X was predictable based on what we know about hardware configs.
Interesting. Do you know offhand if the drops at 120fps are more noticeable on a monitor? I have been considering getting a 1440p 144hz monitor for MP but Reddit has me worried.
I'm glad I sold my Series S.... Yeah Microsoft it's a Series X only with lower res games....
The XSX and PS5 are identical for 95%+ of the time. Such an impressive 120fps mode at the start of the gen is great to see.
Both consoles with some pretty good results. There is still room for a lot of improvement. Whatever, Cold War is great!
Lord, the "all they need to do is reduce resolution" argument we heard ad nauseum about S ports is really getting torn to shreds. S is quite clearly not offering the same experience as X but merely at reduced fidelity.
Series S doesn't have raytraced shadows. That's the difference.
Until PS5 gets VRR support I'd have to assume slightly different targets there. Games using dynamic resolution (and the associated unknowns on how that is implemented on each console) is only going to make that comparison more difficult for the end consumer.
I mean, this is a cross-gen game and it probably wasn't built specifically to utilize the new components on each platform to the max and whatever. As far as the performance delta, they each have something weird going on as the XSX shouldn't be THAT much faster in the RT 60 fps parts and vice-versa with the 120 fps mode.
I think the only one who loses here are the armchair analyst fanboys from the Valhalla thread. Do y'all see how meaningful a marketing partnership is now?
Sorry but I feel like I often see you in these threads posting without having done much research.
The Series X already has a CPU clock speed advantage. It's 100Mhz, it's negligible, but it's there. That's with both PS5 and Series X using SMT. So even without turning it off, the CPUs are basically comparable (3.5 vs 3.6 GHz) if not slightly favoured towards the Series X.
Turning SMT off could improve performance for less threaded applications through a frequency boost but even still that only goes up to 3.8 GHz, so it's still not a significant difference and may not even be applicable if the games are built to leverage all 16 threads, which they may be for consoles going forward since all three have 8 core, 16 thread Zen 2 CPUs.
I know. And no 120hz mode. That's why I'm angry at Microsoft. They said the Series S is like the Series X. Only with lower resolution. And it's not. It has lower resolution games, missing effects and lower fps.
I feel like this is the type of feature which once you have it you need to keep it for future installments, at least for the MP. If any future CoD game doesn't have it I'd expect a decent outcry among the people who use it.