MPP is fine but I prefer AES.I take it I want AES and not the other thing?
To be fair I'm also being slightly tempted to get an ipad pro and pencil for about 1k for my SO to draw on and me to play runeterra on :P
MPP is fine but I prefer AES.I take it I want AES and not the other thing?
To be fair I'm also being slightly tempted to get an ipad pro and pencil for about 1k for my SO to draw on and me to play runeterra on :P
Wacom Cintiq Pros have 2 year warranty IIRC.Has anyone moved between an ipad pro and a cintiq and have impressions on the experience?
Currently using an ipad pro with first gen apple pencil and eyeing a cintiq pro 24 due to wanting a larger screen. I'm seeing some mixed feedback on build quality and the screen lottery though (with some panels having problems like 10 months in) which is making me hesitate on such a pricey purchase.
If it's a first generation Air, then it's not compatible with the Pencil. Pencil support only came to the Air with the third generation in 2019.So I went to go pick up payment for a commission today and my client gave me a bamboo stylus and and an iPad Air which I believe may be first gen. I have been saving up to get a 2nd gen pencil and a 3rd gen pro and once taxes come back I'll be able to do so. But my question is how well would the bamboo and air do for art?
I currently draw and paint with my iPhone and finger so anything is a step up, but if the Air is pretty good for drawing then maybe I should just get a 1st gen pencil and just continue saving and get a Pro in the fall or something. Any advice??
So I went to go pick up payment for a commission today and my client gave me a bamboo stylus and and an iPad Air which I believe may be first gen. I have been saving up to get a 2nd gen pencil and a 3rd gen pro and once taxes come back I'll be able to do so. But my question is how well would the bamboo and air do for art?
I currently draw and paint with my iPhone and finger so anything is a step up, but if the Air is pretty good for drawing then maybe I should just get a 1st gen pencil and just continue saving and get a Pro in the fall or something. Any advice??
The Bamboo stylus' aren't bad, but it's a far cry from the Apple Pencil / iPad Pro.
You can download Adobe Fresco for free and give it a whirl.
Btw, which iPhone do you draw on? If it's anything between the 6 and the XS, then you at least have some faux pressure sensitivity on drawing apps thanks to 3D Touch. Any reason why you use your finger instead of a stylus?
Pen's pretty cheap so either way... I already have AES 1.0 and 2.0 pens. Hopefully the digitizer is 2.0..That's an incredible deal. It's interesting that Lenovo themselves say in the Q&A that the pen is sold separately when multiple buyers are saying that theirs came with it.
AFAIK the digitizer is exactly same as before.If anyone gets a new Surface Book 3, I'd be very curious to hear if the pen control is improved, esp in photoshop. I've been working on a model 1 for years now and hate how jittery it is, but I deal with it because the benefit of not needing a separate tablet is pretty good for my workflow.
AFAIK the digitizer is exactly same as before.
Only way to get jitter free pen in Windows 2 in 1 is to order something with Wacom EMR like the Samsung Galaxy Flex or old Notebook 9 Pro/Pen.
Apple Pencil is very nice but Wacom EMR is IMO better. If you can score a Wacom EMR device with decent KB you should be set for both art and coding. Samsung convertibles are expensive but maybe you can find a deal on a new one. In the US, my Samsung Notebook 9 Pro 15" was going for $950 at one point new. Even though it's 2 gens older, new ones still can be found and the specs aren't terrible (8550U 4GHz quad core i7, 16GB RAM, 2GB RX540 GPU). Most importantly though, it has Wacom EMR pen. Just make sure it's rocking Wacom EMR bc other Samsung convertibles do use AES pen.Hey everyone,
I'm looking for a tablet that I can use to draw on the screen to practise my digital illustration. My budget is £800-1000.
I'll be using it 90% for this. The rest will be light browsing/watching movies. I might also use it to code some light front end stuff (just HTML and CSS), but the primary function will be as an art tablet.
My conflict here is that the Ipad is apparently much better for art, and but not so hot with development. But as my development would mostly be a convenience thing when I didn't want to sit with my laptop or at my desktop, if the art experience is much better I would forgo being able to develop on tablet at all.
Looking at Apple's site right now, they're selling a refurbished Gen 3 12.9 256GB for £800, and the Apple Pencil 2 is £119. This is all well within my budget. Would there be any issues with buying a Gen 3 Pro considering my specific use case and it being a couple of years old now?
I could also consider a Surface Pro if there was a model I could find within my budget, and I know this would offer more traditional PC options which might pan out to be convenient, but if the drawing isn't as good then I can just do the PC things I need on my other two devices.
If you do have something in mind, then I'm after a specific model and price. I'm in the UK.
Anyway, advice welcome! Looking to buy it at some point in the next two weeks. Thanks!
Hey everyone,
I'm looking for a tablet that I can use to draw on the screen to practise my digital illustration. My budget is £800-1000.
I'll be using it 90% for this. The rest will be light browsing/watching movies. I might also use it to code some light front end stuff (just HTML and CSS), but the primary function will be as an art tablet.
My conflict here is that the Ipad is apparently much better for art, and but not so hot with development. But as my development would mostly be a convenience thing when I didn't want to sit with my laptop or at my desktop, if the art experience is much better I would forgo being able to develop on tablet at all.
Looking at Apple's site right now, they're selling a refurbished Gen 3 12.9 256GB for £800, and the Apple Pencil 2 is £119. This is all well within my budget. Would there be any issues with buying a Gen 3 Pro considering my specific use case and it being a couple of years old now?
I could also consider a Surface Pro if there was a model I could find within my budget, and I know this would offer more traditional PC options which might pan out to be convenient, but if the drawing isn't as good then I can just do the PC things I need on my other two devices.
If you do have something in mind, then I'm after a specific model and price. I'm in the UK.
Anyway, advice welcome! Looking to buy it at some point in the next two weeks. Thanks!
Yep. It's all about that jitter... SP4 is doubly worse than current Surface Pro since it also lacks PixelSense pen accelerator chip that new ones have (except Surface GO IIRC). So it's jittery and does not update pen position as fast.I have the surface pro 4, and it is terrible for anything other than quick sketching. There is severe pen jitter/wobble when trying to do detailed work, and from what I hear isn't fixed in the newer surface models. Ipad pro blows it out of the water, but the lack of windows apps definitely hurts it.
Pen's pretty cheap so either way... I already have AES 1.0 and 2.0 pens. Hopefully the digitizer is 2.0..
Amazon keeps telling me I'll have it tonight by 9pm. OK... after the curfew? Are you gonna get the driver shot by LAPD?!?Hey Shog! Didja get your Lenovo Flex yet?? I have one in my Amazon shopping cart. Waiting for your impressions before I pull trigger. ☺
I'm a Surface Pro 4+6 owner, and ipad pro 11" 2018 owner. I really like the Surface Pro line but nothing competes with the ipad+pencil for digital art, so long as you're happy to commit to Procreate for artwork.Hey everyone,
I'm looking for a tablet that I can use to draw on the screen to practise my digital illustration. My budget is £800-1000.
I'll be using it 90% for this. The rest will be light browsing/watching movies. I might also use it to code some light front end stuff (just HTML and CSS), but the primary function will be as an art tablet.
My conflict here is that the Ipad is apparently much better for art, and but not so hot with development. But as my development would mostly be a convenience thing when I didn't want to sit with my laptop or at my desktop, if the art experience is much better I would forgo being able to develop on tablet at all.
Looking at Apple's site right now, they're selling a refurbished Gen 3 12.9 256GB for £800, and the Apple Pencil 2 is £119. This is all well within my budget. Would there be any issues with buying a Gen 3 Pro considering my specific use case and it being a couple of years old now?
I could also consider a Surface Pro if there was a model I could find within my budget, and I know this would offer more traditional PC options which might pan out to be convenient, but if the drawing isn't as good then I can just do the PC things I need on my other two devices.
If you do have something in mind, then I'm after a specific model and price. I'm in the UK.
Anyway, advice welcome! Looking to buy it at some point in the next two weeks. Thanks!
Yep. It's all about that jitter... SP4 is doubly worse than current Surface Pro since it also lacks PixelSense pen accelerator chip that new ones have (except Surface GO IIRC). So it's jittery and does not update pen position as fast.
Until OEMs start spending more money on denser grid digitizers, jitter will remain for AES and MPP devices. And unfortunately most Windows OEMs add the pen funtion for note taking, not art. Ones that advertise for art tend to use Wacom EMR because it has grid density to rival Apple's digitizers (Acer ConceptD 9 and Hp ZBook X2 for examples). But then again, that's why Apple won't make a digitizer bigger than 12.9". It's prohibitively expensive for capacitive digitizers to go bigger with such grid density.
Wacom EMR is the only digitizer type that allows jitter free action while giving you big ass screens to boot (Cintiq Pro 32" anyone?).
Hey everyone,
I'm looking for a tablet that I can use to draw on the screen to practise my digital illustration. My budget is £800-1000.
I'll be using it 90% for this. The rest will be light browsing/watching movies. I might also use it to code some light front end stuff (just HTML and CSS), but the primary function will be as an art tablet.
My conflict here is that the Ipad is apparently much better for art, and but not so hot with development. But as my development would mostly be a convenience thing when I didn't want to sit with my laptop or at my desktop, if the art experience is much better I would forgo being able to develop on tablet at all.
Looking at Apple's site right now, they're selling a refurbished Gen 3 12.9 256GB for £800, and the Apple Pencil 2 is £119. This is all well within my budget. Would there be any issues with buying a Gen 3 Pro considering my specific use case and it being a couple of years old now?
I could also consider a Surface Pro if there was a model I could find within my budget, and I know this would offer more traditional PC options which might pan out to be convenient, but if the drawing isn't as good then I can just do the PC things I need on my other two devices.
If you do have something in mind, then I'm after a specific model and price. I'm in the UK.
Anyway, advice welcome! Looking to buy it at some point in the next two weeks. Thanks!
I would suggest only trying and find a Wacom EMR device if you are considering iPad Pros for ~$1000. Otherwise, just go for the 2019 base iPad + Pencil for around $400 and call it a day. That's a great value if you don't plan to do huge print art that requires more than 3GB of RAM in the iPad.Ok, thanks a lot everyone. I will check out the wacom devices for sure before I decide, but the 2018 ipad is sounding good right now.
Appreciate the feedback!
Thanks!
I'd try to find a newer driver if available. Same with a newer firmware.I got a huion 16 pro. It sbeen pretty great, but lately I've been having a problem where if I'm drawing consecutive lines fast, one line will just be fat like I drew it full force. It's driving me insane. I can't find anything online about what might be happening. Any ideas? I can post an example a little later if it helps.
So my girlfriend wants to do some art so she's thinking of getting a tablet for her laptop, but I'm really undecided on what to suggest for her.
In regards to Wacom I was thinking of suggesting either the One by Wacom (pen tablet), or the Wacom One (pen display). The former is cheap and potentially a good starting point, but the latter I feel would be a better investment. I also think it would be easier for someone who has never used a tablet before.
There's so many other options though, so if anyone has any suggestions that would be more than appreciated!
In other news I noticed a small hairline scratch on my Cintiq Pro 24. It's nothing major whatsoever, but it's frustrating to have. It's still within warranty but I feel it would be more hassle than it's worth to try and sort out.
Doesn't Wacom charge $400 or so extra for multi touch on cintiq? It's a relief to know it's included for the Wacom One. I take it for granted these days.I can't believe Wacom has the balls to sell 13.3" UD series pen display with ,multi touch for $400...
Wait... I can believe it. lolol
OOPS I typed too fast. I meant to type WITHOUT multitouch. Wacom ONE don't have multitouch...Doesn't Wacom charge $400 or so extra for multi touch on cintiq? It's a relief to know it's included for the Wacom One. I take it for granted these days.
OOPS I typed too fast. I meant to type WITHOUT multitouch. Wacom ONE don't have multitouch...
I means it's $200 away from that Flex 5 Ryzen 4500u. I mean I love me some Wacom EMR action but come on. At least throw in Multitouch in there for that price! It's 13.3", not 24". 13.3" multitouch digitizer glass is MAYBE $20 BOM...
I'm 99.9% sure that they are. I bought some replacements on Amazon for the 15" Let me see if I can find the link I bought from.Shogmaster do you know if the oem pens for 13in and 15in Notebook 9 Pros the same size?
If you can stretch the budget to $1090, the MS store Notebook 9 Pro sale is an unbeatable steal if you intend to mostly do 2D stuff and want the best device.Wacom's going to Wacom themselves into obscurity soon if they don't change their strategy.
Looking at something you can get for $800 in either iPad Pro or a Windows 2-in-1 tablet, there's every day less reason to invest in a Wacom screen or tablet.
I'm 99.9% sure that they are. I bought some replacements on Amazon for the 15" Let me see if I can find the link I bought from.
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I also bought this Galaxy Tab S3 replacement pen.
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Both pens work very well. I have hard tip in the silo pen npw and rubber tip in the S3 pen. hard tip gives you better IAF but rubber tip give you better control if you want to slow down your stroke. I'm leaning towards replacing the S3 pen with hard tip as well.
No problem. Being paranoid boy that I am, I might order another set since this model is officially no longer being made by Sammy and might be hard to find these replacements in the future...