At this point I hope From add an easy mode in their next game just to see the shitstorm that would ensue.
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Difficulty is an intrinsic part of FromSoftware games' tones. Easy mode in Soulsborne is equivalent to asking for horror films to be less scary
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Sekiro is already on its easiest difficulty by the way, there're harder modes like Bell Demon and NG+.
If that's not good enough then I have no words. Guess people just want to press a single button to win the game.
Ahhhh the good old ''imagine if this impossible thing actually happened, people would be so mad'' self-satisfaction.
If that's not good enough then I have no words. Guess people just want to press a single button to win the game.
Ahhhh the good old ''imagine if this impossible thing actually happened, people would be so mad'' self-satisfaction.
yes please someone forward me this list before I post my "microtransactions are an intrinsic part of ubisoft games" thread and embarrass myself
I think comparisons with movies in these kinds of discussion are problematic.
Games are an interactive medium that require some form of competence/ whatever-kind-of-skill to be experienced and/ or to be completed. Films are not*. Everybody can play a movie and watch it from start to end, regardless of skill. Not everybody will even experience the first boss of some game. So while i do not want to make a point for or against easy mode in Soulsborne games, there is a right to exist for these kinds of discussion (opposed to films).
(* exceptions granted for accessibility when deaf (subtitles), color blind (filters) etc.)
Games are an interactive medium that require some form of competence/ whatever-kind-of-skill to be experienced and/ or to be completed. Films are not*. Everybody can play a movie and watch it from start to end, regardless of skill. Not everybody will even experience the first boss of some game. So while i do not want to make a point for or against easy mode in Soulsborne games, there is a right to exist for these kinds of discussion (opposed to films).
(* exceptions granted for accessibility when deaf (subtitles), color blind (filters) etc.)
I agree with you but there's like 4 other threads discussing this thing and it ALWAYS ends up being a clusterfuck.
I think Fromsoft fine tuned the difficulty to one that is exactly their vision and want people to experience and respect that.
In this day and age, if you want to experience the story, setting without going through the challenge that they offer you, well you can just go and watch Let's Plays of the game online. That's your easy mode.
In this day and age, if you want to experience the story, setting without going through the challenge that they offer you, well you can just go and watch Let's Plays of the game online. That's your easy mode.
I was hoping that Sekiro would have a heavy story spoken in Japanese without the options of subtitles. Language easy mode should not be allowed. Translating Japanese looses a lot of subtleties of the language and is only to the detriment of the game. So if you want to enjoy Sekiro, you should just learn the language /s
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FromSoft games aren't hard just 'cause. They're hard to evoke a specific feeling. Lessening the difficulty compromises the intended experience. If From doesn't want to compromise the experiences they make, people should respect that I think.
Two humans going at it is an intrinsic part to enjoying sexual stimulation. Masturbating is equivalent to asking people to not have sex.
Or better yet Fi/motion controls/interruptions/handholding in Skyward Sword. I guess the MC score was absolutely spot on and everyone who disagrees with the creative vision of these aspects should 'play something else.'
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But seriously tho, I don't get why someone would have a problem with the Idea of modifier or more difficulty settings. Does it really bother you people that I wasn't able to beat Mario Kaizo and Megaman 2 without Savestates?
The world didn't fall apart when Sekiro added a pause function. It won't fall apart when they introduce an easy mode to a game, either. Honestly, what does it take away from you if there's an autoplay option, or one where you have +1000% health, or where there's checkpoints every 3 steps or where you can quicksave mid-battle? As long as they keep a "normal" gamemode, you can always stick to that, play with that.
Okay so my list of design decisions that must be respected and not criticized:
- Difficulty [if hard]
- ???
This is an awful comparison, and I say this as someone who doesn't think all games need an easier difficulty.
Not only is film not an interactive medium and so trying to compare it in this way is not going to work, a lot of horror films, and other kinds of films, do in fact have several different cuts. Sometime, when showing a film on tv, the channel will edit it to better fit the presumed audience. Films that might be too scary for kids are softened for pre-watershed viewing. Films may even be edited for different countries. The only difference is in games, it's far easier to experience the original, intended difficulty as it's just an option you pick. So games have far more reason to do that stuff than film, a medium that is already doing it a hell of a lot.
So holding that up like some sort of argument ending point is silly.
Not only is film not an interactive medium and so trying to compare it in this way is not going to work, a lot of horror films, and other kinds of films, do in fact have several different cuts. Sometime, when showing a film on tv, the channel will edit it to better fit the presumed audience. Films that might be too scary for kids are softened for pre-watershed viewing. Films may even be edited for different countries. The only difference is in games, it's far easier to experience the original, intended difficulty as it's just an option you pick. So games have far more reason to do that stuff than film, a medium that is already doing it a hell of a lot.
So holding that up like some sort of argument ending point is silly.
So is From an elitist developer for not adding easy modes to their games?
Silly comparison. A more accurate comparison, but still an inaccurate one, would be people asking for a horror movie to have a cut that makes it less scary while also having the original cut. I say it's inaccurate because it is not as simple to make a less frightening cut of the film, at least not as simple as it would be for this situation.
Video games are interactive. Maybe its closer to expecting a song composer to write simple songs because some people cant play them.
I doubt many people will agree with that, but then again, not many people put in the time to learn an instrument.
I doubt many people will agree with that, but then again, not many people put in the time to learn an instrument.
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We used to be alright with not being able to pause even while playing offline too as it adds to the feeling of dread but we're also fine when you can pause
You made a similar comment in reply to a post I made, why do you keep making this kind of leading post?
Yes, a better though still bad comparison would be like choosing to watch the airplane version of an R-rated movie.
But also going "NO YOU CANNOT DO THAT, WATCH LEGO NINJAGO INSTEAD FUCK YOU" would be actually psychotic.
Shouldn't we as a community be inclusive to as many ppl as possible? That should go for ones who want easy mode in souls games. There's no need whatsoever to leave ppl out from enjoying their games. None.
Ok and a lot of games are made intended to be played on "normal" difficulty levels to get the "true experience" and yet developers still create multiple layers of difficult (harder or easier) to satisfy more groups of players
You don't see pitchfork threads when developers add more difficult options into a video game (like Grounded mode in TLOU) - so why should there be arguments against adding the latter?
I really hate this elitist attitude. It's incredibly selfish. An optional easy mode would in no way affect your enjoyment of the game on higher settings.
Hey guys, I suck at parries. FromSoftware owes it to me to remove parrying from the game when I switch to easy mode. Creative vision? Design? What is that stuff luls.
At this point, it won't be long before somebody manages to call challenging games anti-consumer. Just wait for it.
At this point, it won't be long before somebody manages to call challenging games anti-consumer. Just wait for it.
Poor anology, but I'd like it to running a Marathon. There's a sense of community for the people who do it. That they know what the other people has to go through. I guess it would be a bit like someone who ran a 5k showing up to talk with the people that ran the full Marathon. It just isn't the same experience. Is that elitist? Yea, almost certainly. But does it have some merit in terms of the shared experience, trial of it. I think so.
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