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Did Zidane sexually assault Garnet in FF9?
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How can FF8 be the better game when FF9 is the best Final Fantasy and FF8 is the worst?
Yes.
I swear, some people want to white wash everything in the sense that if something is wrong, it's not allowed to be portrayed. It's like cutting rape scenes from Game of Thrones simply because rape is horribly evil. Well, yeah, but it would still happen in a world like that - or in any world really. That's the cold hard truth and integral to a story like that.
Nobody is excusing Zidane's behavior simply because he's the hero of the story.
Running away from responsibilities doesn't make him guilty of sexual misconduct, now does it.
And I mean, he left the kingdom in the capable hands of a beloved sexual predator, so all was well wasn't it?
Eh, I wasn't aiming at you my good man, just the creators. You were correct in your assessment, it was the creators who treated his sexual misconduct as a joke.
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FF8 was ahead of it's time. Remember when the people cheer at their new facist overlord at the end of disc 1?
Sorry, that totally went over my head. I get ya now. There's some truth to what you're saying.
In the end the thing that matters most is the audience's reaction, so if it's not aging well it only makes Zidane's characterization look worse - which is fine I guess.
People falling over each other on ladders and other shenanigans seems like a trope.
Or, ya know, he left it in more capable hands. This was fairly explicit and would you rather have a ruler who cares and wants to do it or one who is forced into it and does everything half-hearted?
Honestly, this is what I remember and why I would have assumed it legit was an accident. The soft comment is just, well, a comment.
It's... admittedly somewhat a product of its time, but doesn't negate how much of an issue it was back then (and is worth discussing). Unfortunately, Zidane's behavior was popular in Children's media at the time, which carried over to video games as well.
Honestly, this reminds me though, every time I go through the Honey Bee Inn section in Final Fantasy VII, as someone who's gay, I just shake my head a lot of times about the stuff that Cloud is subjected to in both of those rooms.
Honestly, this reminds me though, every time I go through the Honey Bee Inn section in Final Fantasy VII, as someone who's gay, I just shake my head a lot of times about the stuff that Cloud is subjected to in both of those rooms.
Nah I don't think so. He accidentally bumped into / touched her ass when they were rushing up the ladder and then made a joke about it.
LMFAOOO!!
Didn't he make a suggestive comment to Freya? Something about her tail? I might just be imagining things.
zidanes characterization is he flirts and acts arrogant to cover his insecurities. blank and then are always talking about how hes actually in love and was never very successful with women. It doesnt excuse it, but i believe it was an accident that zidane tried to make light of, since thats what he does.
I think there's a zero % chance he wasn't talking about her butt...
Capable hands of a sexual predator. But he's clearly a competent ruler, so all is well! There are no real world parallels here whatsoever!*
(in all seriousness, outside of Edgar's sleazy antics, this was my favorite secondary storyline of the game and I actually tear up a little every time I play the game when the brothers reunite and reminisce the last days of their father).
*mostly because our sexual predator overlords are anything but competent.
Yes, feeling up a girl's but is sexual assault. now all we gotta do is find Zidane in real life and bring him to justice.
i heard he's back at Madrid coaching actual rapists again.
i heard he's back at Madrid coaching actual rapists again.
The issue many people had with the rape scenes in GoT is that many of them were invented/not actually shown in the books. Critique about a show's poor handling of subject matter that the showrunners themselves invented is not whitewashing. It's pointing out pure schlocky shock value as pure schlocky shock value that's actively hurting the storytelling instead of helping it.
Oh, that became known over the course of the game, for sure. He was still a capable leader and clearly loved his people (some more than others, obviously...) but I also never liked him as a character, ever. It honestly kind of bugged me that he was one of the 3 characters you HAD to get during the World of Ruin. I would have much rather had it be Sabin and he ends up taking over as king of Figaro until you find Edgar. even through the very small adjustments in the translation I knew Edgar was making passes at Relm and that made me feel more than a little uncomfortable at the time.
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Should have had her raped by Theon and the dogs like in the books, eh?
I think that's a whole other discussion and tbh I agree that they didn't need to add them in most cases(I can't actually remember each scene beyond Sansa's). Maybe GoT was a bad example.
Yes, at the time unfortunately this kinda of stuff was more usual than today and men would say It was an accident or joke. I remember teenagers at School at the time doing the same stuff.
He is a teenage street kid. Flirtatious, brash, big headed and kind of a jerk at the start of the game. It was probably an accident but he enjoyed it.
We trying to cancel final fantasy characters from 20 years ago now? Lmao
We trying to cancel final fantasy characters from 20 years ago now? Lmao
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