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Did you like Jessie's flirting in Final Fantasy VII Remake?
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I mean....maybe if Part 1 Sasuke were an actual likeable character that can express affection and be a dork, I can see that.
But then, I actually like the Sasuke archetype if done right.
The point where she's at your door playing house by herself is the moment it went from amusing to ridiculous. The revelation that's she's an actor gives some clarity to the way she acts, but this game has no room for nuance and beats you over the head with the traits of certain characters. It just turns into a harem at a certain point where they override the characters to make them all fantasize and ogle Cloud.
The moments Jessie is great are when she is just snarky and playful such as when she criticizes Cloud playing too hard to get. Her being so forceful and getting into roleplay stuff comes across as desperate and creepy. Also, it's annoying that most of the time she plays things up is in service of Cloud and nothing else.
The moments Jessie is great are when she is just snarky and playful such as when she criticizes Cloud playing too hard to get. Her being so forceful and getting into roleplay stuff comes across as desperate and creepy. Also, it's annoying that most of the time she plays things up is in service of Cloud and nothing else.
It was too "anime" for my taste.... to point where I was beginning to cringe and roll my eyes...
To me everyone's lines and anime voice acting is overboard so not sure Jessie's flirting stands out.
I thought they should have just had her get frustrated enough to yell, "Oh my god %*#! me already!"
Yeah. For me that's most of the interactions between every character. Huge fucking flop in that regard.
I thought they should have just had her get frustrated enough to yell, "Oh my god %*#! me already!"
Yeah. For me that's most of the interactions between every character. Huge fucking flop in that regard.
Cloud is literally uncomfortable with the most basic of human interactions.
Give me DLC where Jessie makes fun of Cloud for getting that "hand job" in Wall Market.
I also saw it as Jessie just messing with Cloud.
I also saw it as Jessie just messing with Cloud.
It made me feel a bit awkward.
The other reason I don't like it is because I hate it when every female character is in love with the protagonist in Japanese games.
The other reason I don't like it is because I hate it when every female character is in love with the protagonist in Japanese games.
It's not like that was the only thing she had going. With her family and acting backstory she got more character building than any of the avalanche guys
Cloud is uncomfortable with everyone it takes some time for him to adapt, he's been living a Soldier's life for too long.
The majority of Jessie's character shouldn't be how thirsty she is. Like I felt second hand embarassment just watching her scenes. Even if she's faking, it's still dumb af. When people wanted Jessie to have an expanded character, I'm pretty sure this isn't what they wanted.
It was already a little like that in the original but they definitely pushed it much harder here. Worried for eventual Yuffie appearance in future games.
In a vacuum I had no problem with it but a lot of the Tifa/Aerith scenes in addition definitely made me feel like they were leaning into harem tropes too much. I get that angle was in the original game but it felt a lot more subdued and had a gameplay incentive that doesn't exist in Part 1.
I've known plenty of people like Jessie. She's forward because she's confident, but it's just harmless lighthearted fun trying to get Cloud to stop being so stoic and self-serious like your typical ERA poster (heh). She tries to make everyone around her smile.
Cloud doesn't know how to respond to someone who's so comfortable being herself, because he's unsure of how to be emotionally available to those around him without making himself vulnerable. And that just makes the whole dynamic even cuter.
And while Jessie is goofy, she's also self-aware and, in her quiet moments, deeply introspective, carrying with her the weight of collateral damage from the bombing runs, and always the fear of losing her comatose father to the lifestream. At the end of the day she's still the sweet girl whose parents doted on her, and they mean the world to her.
A great character, and another example of how Remake took the "rough draft" that is the original and embellished it, elevating it to something truly great.
Cloud doesn't know how to respond to someone who's so comfortable being herself, because he's unsure of how to be emotionally available to those around him without making himself vulnerable. And that just makes the whole dynamic even cuter.
And while Jessie is goofy, she's also self-aware and, in her quiet moments, deeply introspective, carrying with her the weight of collateral damage from the bombing runs, and always the fear of losing her comatose father to the lifestream. At the end of the day she's still the sweet girl whose parents doted on her, and they mean the world to her.
A great character, and another example of how Remake took the "rough draft" that is the original and embellished it, elevating it to something truly great.
I thought it was over the top, but several moments would go from that level of "flirty" to her seemingly acting "defeated" and switching to a normal tone.
So to me, it felt like she was putting on an act to mess with Cloud a bit, perhaps trying to get him to open up since he is so awkward and "cool guy". When you learn about her past and what she used to be before AVALANCHE, along with Wedge even telling Cloud "it's all an act!" it made way more sense.
In the end, the over-the-top flirting was a small part of how she acted and most of the time she was actually very deliberate and struggling internally with how things happened. She couldn't even face up to her actions openly to the point of not being able to go into the room she has asks Cloud to steal from, and only shared how she truly felt about the bombing run with Cloud.
So to me, it felt like she was putting on an act to mess with Cloud a bit, perhaps trying to get him to open up since he is so awkward and "cool guy". When you learn about her past and what she used to be before AVALANCHE, along with Wedge even telling Cloud "it's all an act!" it made way more sense.
In the end, the over-the-top flirting was a small part of how she acted and most of the time she was actually very deliberate and struggling internally with how things happened. She couldn't even face up to her actions openly to the point of not being able to go into the room she has asks Cloud to steal from, and only shared how she truly felt about the bombing run with Cloud.
Gaia doesn't look kindly on her stealing her Dad's ID card.
It was incredibly annoying and not funny. It wouldn't have been so bad if she had any other character traits, but she just didn't.
What I don't like for sure is obvious spoilers in a thread title and everyone not giving a fuck about it.
(Btw I finished FFVIIR but I think about people who wanna discover the game)
(Btw I finished FFVIIR but I think about people who wanna discover the game)
I don't even like Jessie in a "waifu" sense because I don't proxy myself in as Cloud. I think Cloud is his own character and I frankly think that most of the time he sucks as a person and I love the contrast that the lighter-toned characters present by riffing off of him, Jessie included, and I LOVE the hint that Jessie is just messing with him and only doing it to entertain herself because she, like me, perhaps realizes that he's a dull asshole trying too hard at being gruff.
EDIT: it's worth noting that I think Cloud is an effective and endearing character to me precisely because of his flaws but I don't see him as a role model or ideal extension of me in any way. Just a good character/tool at expressing FFVII's themes
EDIT: it's worth noting that I think Cloud is an effective and endearing character to me precisely because of his flaws but I don't see him as a role model or ideal extension of me in any way. Just a good character/tool at expressing FFVII's themes
Initially, but then it became her defining attribute, even to the end, even though they'd previously established there was a lot more to her. They did her dirty.
Yuffie has been paired with Vincent, I wouldn't worry about it.
Way overboard, but I feel similarly to how Aerith and Tifa acted towards Cloud too. Came off really pandering, especially compared to the moments that actually felt cute and natural.
That would have made the game at least slightly better. Didn't like the really narrow-minded harem setting at all.
Lol what?
She was an actor. If she dressed up like a Moogle and sat in Clouds room and watched him sleep it would be obsessive.
Yeah. I mean Cloud x Yuffie is tolerable with context although their dynamic wouldn't work as a couple.
Jessie is Aerith's flirty attitude times 10.
She's like a horny punk Aerith.
