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I believe the Craig Bond movies were officially stated to be a reboot
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Did you know about the Pokémon "Arbitrary Age Theory"?
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Why does he visit his parents grave (who are called Bond)?!
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The hilarity of that theory at least makes it better than this.
100%. I see this so often, its insane. Its the equivalent of "How come Batman focuses on criminals like The Riddler vs. taking down white collar criminals?"
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Hilbert and Hilda were 14 in BW, Calem and Serena are the oldest we got
A classic case
As ever, Grant on point. All these people going "This is a R34 theory" are wrong. This is a "I'm still watching Pokemon at age 25 and I need an explanation" theory.
Nah.
They didn't expect the anime to run for 20+ years and just couldn't bother to age up their characters, easier to just ignore this aspect
They didn't expect the anime to run for 20+ years and just couldn't bother to age up their characters, easier to just ignore this aspect
The only thing that makes this theory weird is the whole basis around having children being what determines you going past the "10" mark; just seems kind of weird and unnecessary, and doesn't really have much evidential basis from Pokemon lore.
It'd be more believable if they actually more explicitly worked in the Evolution angle of the series; the anime already had multiple episodes that actually mentioned pokemon levels existing in-universe (though the only ones that actually think about those are try-hards), and in-terms of the game it can explain why there are "classes" of trainers that look practically identical (you could even say that the younger, inexperienced classes "evolve" into the more experienced ones over time; like a Picnicker or Youngster eventually evolving into a Ranger or Elite Trainer, and an Elite Trainer eventually evolves into a Veteran)
"Unique" characters like Gym Trainers, Elite Four and the protagonists could be explained in the same way there are Mythical and Legendary Pokemon that can either have variants or evolve under certain criteria, with attaining a title basically "evolving" you to a certain state, with Champion being the most coveted title by the Protagonist and Rival classes. Joys and Jennys are obviously special, single-stage evolutions all existing from the same family, that then vary based on the region they're in.
You could even incorporate Ash metaphorically with his Pikachu; both choose not to "evolve" from their initial state because they want to show the world that they can be strong enough from their own hard-fought experiences, so even though Ash still looks like a basic trainer he's actually a Level.100, just like his Pikachu.
...Of course, going by game mechanics, most evolved pokemon are just statistically stronger than their base form, but you can potentially develop strategies that can lead to an unevolved Pokemon coming out on top.
....But that's just a theory.
It'd be more believable if they actually more explicitly worked in the Evolution angle of the series; the anime already had multiple episodes that actually mentioned pokemon levels existing in-universe (though the only ones that actually think about those are try-hards), and in-terms of the game it can explain why there are "classes" of trainers that look practically identical (you could even say that the younger, inexperienced classes "evolve" into the more experienced ones over time; like a Picnicker or Youngster eventually evolving into a Ranger or Elite Trainer, and an Elite Trainer eventually evolves into a Veteran)
"Unique" characters like Gym Trainers, Elite Four and the protagonists could be explained in the same way there are Mythical and Legendary Pokemon that can either have variants or evolve under certain criteria, with attaining a title basically "evolving" you to a certain state, with Champion being the most coveted title by the Protagonist and Rival classes. Joys and Jennys are obviously special, single-stage evolutions all existing from the same family, that then vary based on the region they're in.
You could even incorporate Ash metaphorically with his Pikachu; both choose not to "evolve" from their initial state because they want to show the world that they can be strong enough from their own hard-fought experiences, so even though Ash still looks like a basic trainer he's actually a Level.100, just like his Pikachu.
...Of course, going by game mechanics, most evolved pokemon are just statistically stronger than their base form, but you can potentially develop strategies that can lead to an unevolved Pokemon coming out on top.
....But that's just a theory.
Because the answer to both is "to make the show appealing."
Batman beats up a colorful rogues gallery of supervillains instead of sending the FBI tips on white collar criminals because the story is more fun that way. Ash has stayed the same age for 25 years because the target market for the anime is still kids, not 35-year-olds.
Because how do you market that to the target audience? It's the same if Ash grew up, had a girlfriend and settled down. Kids don't want some middle aged ex Pokemon trainer as the main character.
...man, the lenghts people will go to to justify watching a kids show as a grown adult. It's fine to like stuff like that, just enjoy it for what it is, don't try to make it rocket science.
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I think the writers keep the kids the same age, because they don't want to write a teenaged Bart and Lisa and a Kindergarten Maggie. They can age an adult by 5 years because they are usually more or less the same person, but there is a bigger difference between a 10-year old and a 15-year old.
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Because its dumb. Its fiction. Why does Batman fight the Riddler? Because its way more entertaining than him fighting tax fraud or fighting a company like the Walmart family who pay their workers nearly nothing and force them to be part timers.
I get more of a "all the kids in Ed Edd n Eddy are dead and in limbo" vibe off of this theory, though your theory fits too.
Last thing on this from me, Is Pokémon usually big for fan theories or is that just me seeing it more there because it's one I've been more involved with? Like some theories and fanons gets treated as universal canon even though they contradicts canon.
Like all the Cubone's Mum's theories even though Cubone mothers don't die, like anyone who's bread a Cubone would know this and it was bit of early instalment weirdness due to early concepts and beta ideas and that entry being based on one particular Cubone you meet during the plot of Red/Green/Blue in Lavender Town.
Or the "There are no real animals in Pokémon" that I see treated as absolute fact by so many people despite this again, contradicts canon and fans get angry, really angry when you point this out. Like even ignoring the Pokedex entries, even as far to 6th - 8th gen games included and references to humans, rats, butterflies, bees, fish and corals.
Like all the Cubone's Mum's theories even though Cubone mothers don't die, like anyone who's bread a Cubone would know this and it was bit of early instalment weirdness due to early concepts and beta ideas and that entry being based on one particular Cubone you meet during the plot of Red/Green/Blue in Lavender Town.
Or the "There are no real animals in Pokémon" that I see treated as absolute fact by so many people despite this again, contradicts canon and fans get angry, really angry when you point this out. Like even ignoring the Pokedex entries, even as far to 6th - 8th gen games included and references to humans, rats, butterflies, bees, fish and corals.
That doesnt really fly, the police is a thing in the batman world, they should be the ones taking care of these "real" issues while the super powered hero takes care of the super powered villains
Like, would you really rather have batman fighting tax fraud while Poison Ivy goes around turning everyone into plants or something
So then why does Judi Dench cross over? And if you buy that dumb "it's a codename" thing, why does Blofeld frequently change actors as well? It's almost like there is no need to try and justify why James Bond movies "aren't real" because they aren't real.
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I think the Judi Dench actress crosses over because they can do that. I don't think there's anything in the definition of "crossover" that prevents reusing actors, but maybe you can enlighten us.
I understand the point you're trying to make but even for those who like to nitpick about "realism" it would still make more sense for batman to focus on the supervillains than white collar criminals because yeah, tax fraud and labour exploration is pretty bad, but so is the Penguin exploding half of the city
If you're talking about the Black and White anime, it's because the writers for some reason wanted to reflect the soft reboot of Gen 5 in the show by downgrading any skill Ash built up through the previous four regions.
Any theory on why he checks on the Pokédex like he never saw one Pokémon he already caught and traveled with?
Electroshock-induced amnesia?
Sorry, I came off as way too snarky. Didn't mean to be rude. I guess the "multiple guys, same codename" theory sets me off. But if one actor can play two different character, why can't two actors play one character?
I'll be the first to tell you that the Pokémon anime's timeline makes no sense since they semi-retconned (I'm pretty sure the Pikachu and Pichu short explicitly stated a year had passed even in Japanese) Ash to be forever 10, but you don't see me trying to come up with an in-universe justification.
Honestly it's even worse than that, because Professor Burnet gets pregnant at some point during Sun and Moon (not clear exactly when, but it's visible in the final episode when Ash is leaving to go back to Kanto), and then gives birth at some point between the end of Sun and Moon and the 37th episode of the next series, Journeys. So that's 3/4 of a year, at least, that must have passed between, at most, like 150 episodes in a series that's more than 1100 episodes long and counting.
See above.
What the fuck is this shit...
This is how you get some '1000 year old dragon' bullshit to justify your fanbase's creepy behavior.
This is how you get some '1000 year old dragon' bullshit to justify your fanbase's creepy behavior.
But do you actually see the birthing process? I'm just saying, she could have just laid an egg.
Seriously lol. This isn't really even an interesting theory.
Honestly I feel a lot of the people on the internet being mad about Pokemon also comes from people unwilling to accept that Pokemon will always be aimed at 14 year olds.
Might want to re-check your math there. That number should probably be divided by 2.
Teenagers are probably one of the few demographics least likely to want to engage with Pokémon.
At least in this specific case, it's really more that the anime chose one of the dumbest ways to keep the protagonist the same age as the target demographic, and some people just can't let discrepancies like that go unexplained. Those people need to chill out and realize that not everything has an in universe explanation.
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