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Did Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater deserve to be 2004's Game of the Year?
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2004 was stacked...
Other than those mentioned in the poll:
Other than those mentioned in the poll:
- Paper Mario TTYD
- World of Warcraft
- Far Cry
- The Sims 2
- Katamari Demacy
- Star Wars: Battlefront
- Star Wars: KotOR2
- Cave Story
- Need for Speed: Underground 2
- Metroid: Zero Mission
- Mega Man Battle Network 4
- Astro Boy Omega Factor
- Pokémon Fireredleafgreen
- Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
- Rachet & Clack: Up Your Arsenal
- Jak 3
- DBZ Budokai 3
- Viewtiful Joe 2
- Gran Turismo 4
MGS3 was incredible but nothing quite blew me away that year like Half-Life 2. Everything from the scope to pacing, character performances, lighting and visuals, animation, physic simulation and combat was unlike anything I'd played up to that point.
I think I still have that 8 minute long Snake Eater trailer memorized. The lack of the Subsistence camera gives me slight pause though.
In my opinion the last Kojima game I'd call a "masterpiece" every game of his since then had serious flaws to me.
Tie between Ninja Gaiden and Metal Gear Solid 3. It's impossible for me to choose, though going back to NG just this year to "prepare" for Sekiro, it holds up absurdly well. It also planted the seeds that would blossom into Souls fandom years later.
San Andreas and SMT: Nocturne are worthy choices as well.
San Andreas and SMT: Nocturne are worthy choices as well.
It was a disappointment to me and it floundered the rich storyline with strong themes that the series had for a cheap James Bond knock-off feel.
It has a very strong presentation, but that's really all it has. In any other area, the previous MGS games have it beat
SMT Nocturne on the other hand is one of the most ambitious game and the best depiction of a post-apoc world in a video game. It's bold and thematically strong, everything MGS3 wasn't. That's my GOTY
It has a very strong presentation, but that's really all it has. In any other area, the previous MGS games have it beat
SMT Nocturne on the other hand is one of the most ambitious game and the best depiction of a post-apoc world in a video game. It's bold and thematically strong, everything MGS3 wasn't. That's my GOTY
It's my very strong third after the combo of Ninja Gaiden and Prime 2, that poll alone is an every vote is a win option (and I don't even really enjoy HL2, still can't deny its quality though)
Though I suppose NG and MGS3 both wouldn't become definitive until updated releases.
Though I suppose NG and MGS3 both wouldn't become definitive until updated releases.
Half-Life 2 and Counter-Strike Source is tough to top. MGS3 was amazing but the Subsistance release is where its at
Gaming Gods forgive me and the OP for forgetting about Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay.
Final rankings:
1.MGS3
1a. Ninja Gaiden
2.San Andreas
3.SMT3: Nocturne
4.Escape from Butcher Bay
KOTOR II was a good game but a bit of a letdown after KOTOR.
Final rankings:
1.MGS3
1a. Ninja Gaiden
2.San Andreas
3.SMT3: Nocturne
4.Escape from Butcher Bay
KOTOR II was a good game but a bit of a letdown after KOTOR.
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Wow, good year for games.
I'm voting for Half Life 2, Ninja Gaiden, or Metroid Prime 2 over MGS3 even though I've only played one of those three games.
I'm voting for Half Life 2, Ninja Gaiden, or Metroid Prime 2 over MGS3 even though I've only played one of those three games.
That list is fucking stacked. What a year. And a hard decision...
MGS3, Halo 2, San Andreas, and Half Life 2 are all GOTY caliber games, make no mistake. It's hard to choose which one I'd say is the best. But yeah, I think I enjoyed MGS3 the most. Great gameplay, and an incredible narrative I still often claim is my favourite ever story in a videogame. And that's what pips it to the post. The others may do other things better and are some of the best in their genres, but that ending to MGS3 will stay with me.
MGS3, Halo 2, San Andreas, and Half Life 2 are all GOTY caliber games, make no mistake. It's hard to choose which one I'd say is the best. But yeah, I think I enjoyed MGS3 the most. Great gameplay, and an incredible narrative I still often claim is my favourite ever story in a videogame. And that's what pips it to the post. The others may do other things better and are some of the best in their genres, but that ending to MGS3 will stay with me.
Nah, if I'm going to be objective of the best game and the one that still holds up the best it's Ninja Gaiden, followed up by MGS3(if it's including subsistence).
If I'm going to talk about the one that had the biggest impact in it's launch year or even just for the future of the gaming it's Halo 2 or Half Life 2. I would also vote those 2 as the GotY for the year they released. I can't decide on which one to pick between them.
If I'm going to talk about the one that had the biggest impact in it's launch year or even just for the future of the gaming it's Halo 2 or Half Life 2. I would also vote those 2 as the GotY for the year they released. I can't decide on which one to pick between them.
Even with the original camera, I'd still say MGS3 was GoTY that year. Had some ridiculous competition to be sure, but it still wins out, IMO.
My hype list for the 2004 holiday season was Halo 2, Half Life 2, Metroid Prime 2, and MGS3. I was still several years away from finally getting past my aversion to GTA and the openworld/sandbox concept in general.
That's basically in descending order of hype. My hype for the first three was about the same, my hype for MGS3 was lagging way behind them. I wasn't pleased with the whole prequel thing, because I wanted to know what happened after MGS2. And then going so far back in time, 50 years into the past, that just felt like adding insult to injury. A big part of the appeal of MGS for me was that it was high tech and mildly futuristic.
Anyway, blah blah blah. Point is, after the holiday season dust settled, MGS3 ended up being the one game out of all of them that really grabbed me and just wouldn't let go, became a bit of an obsession for a while, god only knows how many times I replayed it, not to mention MGOnline. Eventually I did get into GTA and I played all of them including San Andreas. I liked it, but it didn't strike me as anything special. No doubt it was bigger, but some times it felt too big. It had a ton of different shit to do, but IMO a lot of it was a stupid waste of time. I liked it but thought it was severely overrated by rabid fanboys.
So, yes, I'd still give it to MGS3.
That's basically in descending order of hype. My hype for the first three was about the same, my hype for MGS3 was lagging way behind them. I wasn't pleased with the whole prequel thing, because I wanted to know what happened after MGS2. And then going so far back in time, 50 years into the past, that just felt like adding insult to injury. A big part of the appeal of MGS for me was that it was high tech and mildly futuristic.
Anyway, blah blah blah. Point is, after the holiday season dust settled, MGS3 ended up being the one game out of all of them that really grabbed me and just wouldn't let go, became a bit of an obsession for a while, god only knows how many times I replayed it, not to mention MGOnline. Eventually I did get into GTA and I played all of them including San Andreas. I liked it, but it didn't strike me as anything special. No doubt it was bigger, but some times it felt too big. It had a ton of different shit to do, but IMO a lot of it was a stupid waste of time. I liked it but thought it was severely overrated by rabid fanboys.
So, yes, I'd still give it to MGS3.
It's though, MGS3 is the best game in one of the best series in gaming and San Andreas is, arguably, the best game in, arguably, the best series in gaming.
I would put several games ahead of it, but outside of Ground Zeroes I can't say I've ever been impressed with Kojima.
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, KOTOR 2, Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow, Halo 2, Chronicles of Riddick, and Ninja Gaiden are all well above it for me (in no order).
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines, KOTOR 2, Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow, Halo 2, Chronicles of Riddick, and Ninja Gaiden are all well above it for me (in no order).
In a year with two of the best FPS games ever and one of the best open world games ever created? Nah.